Why don’t we have pride in our own award shows?

[breakfuss]

We devalue our own shyt when we hit a new peak of popularity

I always shake my head whenever an artist has reached a new level of popularity and when it comes to the Soul Train Awards, BET Hip Hop Awards or BET Awards, they don’t show up.


All too often the presenter gotta be like “MC IOU” or “Songstress Golden Voice” couldn’t be here tonight but we accept this award on his/her behalf”


I get wanting to be acknowledged among your peers from other cultures and backgrounds at other award shows, but damn, have some pride in your own shyt first. Especially because our culture is the one everybody bites, borrows and eats off of.

If black artists took more pride in our own award shows, the award shows would be a lot better and even bigger than other award shows.

I felt like this year's BET Awards was a return to form . And most of the big dogs showed up, even Kendrick and Sza who were in the middle of touring. I get the network is no longer in our hands though.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

White man ice is colder
Colonization

Internet sped up the "intergration"

 

[I love Latina women]

I felt like this year's BET Awards was a return to form . And most of the big dogs showed up, even Kendrick and Sza who were in the middle of touring. I get the network is no longer in our hands though.

Yeah it was nice to see SZA and Kendrick show up and not abandon our award shows like so many others do once they reach a peak level of popularity

 

[Ziggiy]

BET Awards (with the exception of this year) and the BET Hip Hop Awards have been a shyt show for YEARS. They have to put more work into putting on a good SHOW and making it an important cultural event before you can expect Beyonce, Kendrick, Cole, and the creme de la creme to show up.

I watched the Soul Train Awards a few years ago, the one hosted by Keke Palmer, and they BARELY gave out any awards. It was mostly performances from C-List r&b artists, and though the performances were mostly good, its a damn AWARDS show, SHOW us the goddamn nominees and winners instead of just posting it online.

Also do away with the corruption in the nominee and voting process. The Grammys went through the same thing recently which is why The Weeknd publicly called them out and actively boycotted submitting his music. Within two years of that the CEO of the Grammys fixed the voting process and now you have black artists actually winning in the General Field and not just being relegated to the genre categories.

Also the rappers/need to do a better job of setting aside bullshyt beefs and squabbles when they are appearing at these events. There’s no fukking reason whatsoever why Dr Dre should be getting attacked backstage at the Source awards and Young Buck is stabbing nikkas. There’s no reason why G-Unit should be beating up Gunplay and snatching chains. These are events are meant to celebrate the art, not exacerbate beefs. Have some fukking decorum.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

We devalue our own shyt when we hit a new peak of popularity

I always shake my head whenever an artist has reached a new level of popularity and when it comes to the Soul Train Awards, BET Hip Hop Awards or BET Awards, they don’t show up.


All too often the presenter gotta be like “MC IOU” or “Songstress Golden Voice” couldn’t be here tonight but we accept this award on his/her behalf”


I get wanting to be acknowledged among your peers from other cultures and backgrounds at other award shows, but damn, have some pride in your own shyt first. Especially because our culture is the one everybody bites, borrows and eats off of.

If black artists took more pride in our own award shows, the award shows would be a lot better and even bigger than other award shows.

A Grammy immediately increases your streaming revenue and you show ticket prices. Our awards down have that impact for the artist.

It’s really about business and not celebrating the art

 

[King Sun]

When our people fronted on the soul train awards I couldn't get mad

The Award show started in 1987 and they didn't start REALLY embracing Hip-Hop until like 96.....Fresh Prince don't count lol

Don hated hip-hop and treated rappers and djs like shyt when they came on Soul Train

The older black generations dropped the bag fronting on rap in the 80s cause when rappers went to black labels to get signed they got laughed out the building(motown) or scammed(sugarhill) so they had to got to these OTHER labels and when Hip-Hop ended up going to billions our people owned basically none of it

The BET awards is a different story that shyt was ratchet from jump they doing a better job these days but it was half assed af back in the 2000s one year it looked like everybody was packed into a hs auditorium

TBH this isn't talked about more. The old gen X or boomers hated rap and refused to have any representation for for years until things were already on the decline.

 

[WIA20XX]

To answer the question, The White Man's Ice is Colder.

To put in some context - Award shows of all types are increasingly less popular, as traditional media is less and less popular and lucrative.

Grammy's, Oscar's, Tony's, CLIO, Nobel Prize, Olympics, Scripps Howard Spelling Bee, Broadcast TV, Cable TV, a lot of Web 1.0....