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Illmatic blows 7DT out the water. Much better production. Lyrically more advanced. People forget that 7DT was initially viewed as a let down.
Plus every song on Illmatic is a bonafide classic hip hop record save one time for your mind.

When it comes to those two albums I think your going to get a preference depending on what the listener is looking from for an album. To me every song from both albums is classic. But I just feel 7DT is more diverse, like something like Hail Mary was an anthem type track that Illmatic didn't really have, don't take anything away from it but that's not the type of album it was, I always saw Illmatic as an ill concept album, To Live And Die In L.A, Blasphemy I thought was a superb song, has everything, passion, game, delivery, mood, like that second verse for instance I thought was just some powerful shyt. 3rd verse was ill too. He went pretty deep on that shyt. It hits you powerfully if you like that type of shyt. Certain type of street dudes who been through struggle shyt love that kind of shyt, I don't really see it as a case of right or wrongs but preference. But I just felt 7DT had like a bit of everything. Krazy, White Manz World, some of these songs are amoung my favourite Hip Hop songs ever. The emotion that pours out, is deep, and powerful, personally that gives it the edge to me as a listener. I remember playing White Manz World to a friend who father deserted them and they had never met, he was deeply deeply touched by that song, I think Illmatic connects in a different way, so it's always gonna come down to what hits you the most as listener. Even Me And My Girlfriend I thought was done in such an ill way, and created a classic track, was just the passion and delivery, you kind of believed the track. Obviously I know he was inspired by I Gave You Power which is also a classic song, and technically overall arguably better, but Pac's emotion and passion in his delivery was tough for anyone to overcome. He was a great songmaker. Hold Ya Head too, some of the shyt he's saying is just deep. And Against All Odds was just some eerie classic shyt. Cause it feels real. But like I've said, Illmatic is one of my favourite albums, I put it above a lot of shyt. Of the actual tracks I don't feel there's any filler, but I felt it was an introspectiveness laid back album, 7DT took me through more of a range of more emotions, and hit me more powerfully so that's why I have to choose it.
 

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I actually think One Time For Your Mind is a classic too. Beats wise I prefer 7DT bar Memory Lane. Lyrically I'm not sure, depends what your looking for again, to me lyrically is how effective the lyrics are not the complexity. And I know Pac's shyt hit me deeply. Was it? I'd never heard that before.
 

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When it comes to those two albums I think your going to get a preference depending on what the listener is looking from for an album. To me every song from both albums is classic. But I just feel 7DT is more diverse, like something like Hail Mary was an anthem type track that Illmatic didn't really have, don't take anything away from it but that's not the type of album it was, I always saw Illmatic as an ill concept album, To Live And Die In L.A, Blasphemy I thought was a superb song, has everything, passion, game, delivery, mood, like that second verse for instance I thought was just some powerful shyt. 3rd verse was ill too. He went pretty deep on that shyt. It hits you powerfully if you like that type of shyt. Certain type of street dudes who been through struggle shyt love that kind of shyt, I don't really see it as a case of right or wrongs but preference. But I just felt 7DT had like a bit of everything. Krazy, White Manz World, some of these songs are amoung my favourite Hip Hop songs ever. The emotion that pours out, is deep, and powerful, personally that gives it the edge to me as a listener. I remember playing White Manz World to a friend who father deserted them and they had never met, he was deeply deeply touched by that song, I think Illmatic connects in a different way, so it's always gonna come down to what hits you the most as listener. Even Me And My Girlfriend I thought was done in such an ill way, and created a classic track, was just the passion and delivery, you kind of believed the track. Obviously I know he was inspired by I Gave You Power which is also a classic song, and technically overall arguably better, but Pac's emotion and passion in his delivery was tough for anyone to overcome. He was a great songmaker. Hold Ya Head too, some of the shyt he's saying is just deep. And Against All Odds was just some eerie classic shyt. Cause it feels real. But like I've said, Illmatic is one of my favourite albums, I put it above a lot of shyt. Of the actual tracks I don't feel there's any filler, but I felt it was an introspectiveness laid back album, 7DT took me through more of a range of more emotions, and hit me more powerfully so that's why I have to choose it.
Don't get me wrong. I love Makaveli. Classic for sure. But Illmatic is just lightning in a bottle, once in a lifetime type shyt.
 

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Don't get me wrong. I love Makaveli. Classic for sure. But Illmatic is just lightning in a bottle, once in a lifetime type shyt.

Yeah, I can respect someone liking Illmatic more, cause I see where there coming from. See that's the way I feel about 7DT, I don't think I've ever heard songs quite like Blasphemy, White Manz World, Hold Ya Head, Against All Odds since, and I have to be honest, I've heard things more comparable to Illmatic, probably because it was such a huge influence to so many MC's so you could hear it in their work. But the shyt on 7DT is some shyt I haven't heard anyone do quite like that before.
 

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I actually think One Time For Your Mind is a classic too. Beats wise I prefer 7DT bar Memory Lane. Lyrically I'm not sure, depends what your looking for again, to me lyrically is how effective the lyrics are not the complexity. And I know Pac's shyt hit me deeply. Was it? I'd never heard that before.
Yeah. People were thrown for a loop because it was very dark. Especially after AEOM. I was in CA at the time. Even after Makaveli dropped - people were still playing AEOM outta cars. I think head messed with Makaveli more. The streets probably went with AEOM.
 

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i think illmatic better than 7 day, but i bump 7 day more till this day cause it still feel fresher. the beats, the flow, the realism
 

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Yeah. People were thrown for a loop because it was very dark. Especially after AEOM. I was in CA at the time. Even after Makaveli dropped - people were still playing AEOM outta cars. I think head messed with Makaveli more. The streets probably went with AEOM.

Oh right, I've never heard that before, everyone I know who was around then told me they loved it. And were going crazy from soon as it came out. I obviously was too young to witness that in the streets at that point, all I know is everyone I know loves that album. I always heard how Hail Mary used to come on anywhere and people would go crazy. Wasn't it triple platinum within a year or something? Yeah I kind of get what your saying with the last bit, All Eyez was definitely a loved album too. Pac never got a chance to promote 7DT either.
 

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cause there were no lows or weak points in Illmatic opposed to 7 day. every song hit. shyt like toss it up, to live in die in L.A, just like daddy were meh

Ok I get what you mean now. I liked all those songs though personally, infact they added to the albums diversity to me.
 
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