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son really thought he was Jay-z. But yall Nas stans deluded. Carry on...
Looks like some Jigga type shyt to me
Why hasn't Nas gotten the credit that Kanye gets for pushing the envelope?
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Looks like some Jigga type shyt to me
iLLusoYuN_Da_Adidas_King
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son really thought he was Nas. But yall Jay stans deluded. Carry on...
Yes hes a great producer BUT Kanye ALSO raps and he does write his own shyt, because he wanted to proove himself. Rhymefest (even said Ye wrote a verse for him, and thought it was ill) Q-Tip explained his songwriting process and was inspired, Malik Yusef etc. have all said Kanye bounces ideas, concepts with other artists (like most rappers do) he doens't need to, but he still definitely writes hes own verses. so when you say Ye has ghostwriters you think of Dre and Diddy having artists write full verses for them bottom line. dont be a delusional a$$hole and act like you know how this man works in the studio. Dont get me wrong i love both, Nas is the greatest in my eyes.
When Ye is focused on a song hes pretty amazing actually. i give credit where credits due.
iLLusoYuN_Da_Adidas_King
Psn illusoyun
Man having a ghostwriter is an insult to any real emcee PERIOD. Yeezy has everyone writing for him I mean EVERYONE. He was NEVER nice on the mic gtfoh he's better then puff daddy but not no marquee true emcee. Big sean, rhyme fest, lupe fiasco, hov, Cam, hae ALL written for ye. People waiting for detox to come out yeezies last 3 albums have been detox ghostwritten and co produced to the core. Yeah you can cal him king of collaborations but call him what he really is a fukkING producer. He uses writers like a producer uses a horn loop he SAMPLES lyricists. Don't ever compare this ni99a to Nas Again this fool has mike dean rza big sean and dj premier in the same room on the same track wtf is Yeezy doing to get mentioned with NAS??
As a producer and director Kanye is amazing but lets call him what he really is an artist/producer. He isnt a supreme poet laureate like Nasir Jones he isnt but thats ok because his visuals and his musicianship and his courage as a rsk taker make him more of a quincey jones type then a Rakim/ Nas type and that is fine. In some ways better which is why as being the face of everything he does and does NOT do, he gets so much credit.[DOUBLEPOST=1397414129][/DOUBLEPOST]Nas can'tdo what Kanye does... but yeezy damn sure cant do what Nas does. End thread both are geniuses and hard workers in their own right.
Nas execution is often poor.
He pushes the envelopes with album titles, themes & concepts but they don't always hit. In fact, they rarely hit. Untitled & HHID are meh albums. Even a song like Rewind - ground breaking it might be but it's not his dopest shyt.
Kanye started rapping with electro/techno sounding beats with all the synths before it was common in hip hop.. dropped 808's which has given nikkas now more popular than him life. Even if Yeezus is wack, it had 3 or 4 songs that are very different but hit home regardless. Then there's being at the forefront of hip-hop fashion - the first rapper on that Givenchy shyt extra hard with the OD leather and them Tigers. Pushing the envelope is Kanye's whole MO and his core fans are with it 100%. That's not the case with Nas or his fans.
He pushes the envelopes with album titles, themes & concepts but they don't always hit. In fact, they rarely hit. Untitled & HHID are meh albums. Even a song like Rewind - ground breaking it might be but it's not his dopest shyt.
Kanye started rapping with electro/techno sounding beats with all the synths before it was common in hip hop.. dropped 808's which has given nikkas now more popular than him life. Even if Yeezus is wack, it had 3 or 4 songs that are very different but hit home regardless. Then there's being at the forefront of hip-hop fashion - the first rapper on that Givenchy shyt extra hard with the OD leather and them Tigers. Pushing the envelope is Kanye's whole MO and his core fans are with it 100%. That's not the case with Nas or his fans.
First off im not comparing him to Nas, i'm addressing you're dumbass comment that Ye has eveyone in the rap game write verses for him when thats NOT true. I'll stick with the facts my nikka and what people who have worked him have said. Kanye bouncing a line off with another artist is NOT ghostwriting, many artists do this. Cam never wrote shyt, Lupe never wrote for him, he got credited on Yeezus for talking about the concept of the song with Ye, Lupe said this on a radio interview, so he didnt write anything, Cyhi confirmed hes writing process on Sway, Malik confirmed the same thing. The thing is Ye gives credit for the smallest of things, it can easily be just be talking about the song and Ye will credit you. so wait, are they all lying? they dont need too. You dont have respect Ye as a MC but you know what? Rhymefest, Talib kweli, Mos Def, Common and even Jay have him given him his props on his rapping abilities and that means whole lot more then some ignorant hating ass child like you. heck even Nas Said he loved Ye.
You dont have to like Ye but to say he doesn't write any word of his own shyt is fukking stupid and false, You don't bother looking into it like i did. but you rather spew delusional nonsense because you dont like Kanye as a person. fukk outt here.
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iLLusoYuN_Da_Adidas_King
Psn illusoyun
RHymefest & consequence ere part of a writing team with kanye for his first two albums in his third it was big sean and rhymefest, his fourth cyhi the prince and pusha T & Big Sean.
Nas writes most of his shyt dolo.... PERIOD. Kanye gets tracks like how he took chief keef record remixed it and made it "his" he does the same thing with rappers with lyricists. Ye has my respect but your mind is to small to comprehend what Im saying to you. Nas is an originator when it comes to hiphop music. Kanye is an innovative producer who makes incredible albums WITH A TEAM. Nas is a SOLO artist Kanye is a MAestro. NOW how am I dissing Kanye saying that? If anything Im sayin Nas is a Raw artist and Kanye is a andy warhol type.... i.e. a BOSS.
wow again for the third time, the only problem i have with you is keep saying he doesn't write his own lyrics witch is FALSE! im not saying Kanye is Nas level or any of that shyt
So having a team of artists collab on a project means they do all the work Kanye gets credit for?
wtf you on seriously? 
Have you read the making of College Dropout or MBDTF? i advise you to look up those articles, it gives you a better understanding on how Kanye works. but you wont because it basically negates the bullshyt you just said.
Q-Tip said it best, when Kanye writes he throws a line out to gauge peoples reaction if its hot or not, if they have anything better, he'll take it, or if anybody had an concept for a song he credits you. he then added Ye still writes his own raps at the end of the day. It wasn't Con, Sean or Cyhi. it all comes from Kanye because thats the only way you become a true artist is writing from personal experience about what your feeling or just wanting to spit hot shyt and thats what Ye did from the begining. I rather take Q-tips word over someone who has no idea what the fukk he's talking about tbh. lmao.
Rhymefest co-wrote the first verse on Jesus walks CD yes. but thats only one song and Kanye wrote verses for him also! Cyhi basically confirmed he didn't write Yeezus, but got credit for talking about the concept of the album.
But ok, whatever makes you feel better, i could give a shyt. i'm just saying ive done my research you haven't.
I'm done.
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iLLusoYuN_Da_Adidas_King
Psn illusoyun
Dawg you look it up Nas has more albums sold kanye doesnt have as many albums as Nas nor do I think he ever will. He may surpass him but YOU look at the numbers I already know them.
wow again for the third time, the only problem i have with you is keep saying he doesn't write his own lyrics witch is FALSE! im not saying Kanye is Nas level or any of that shyt
So having a team of artists collab on a project means they do all the work Kanye gets credit for?
Have you read the making of College Dropout or MBDTF? i advise you to look up those articles, it gives you a better understanding on how Kanye works. but you wont because it basically negates the bullshyt you just said.
Q-Tip said it best, when Kanye writes he throws a line out to gauge peoples reaction if its hot or not, if they have anything better, he'll take it, or if anybody had an concept for a song he credits you. he then added Ye still writes his own raps at the end of the day. It wasn't Con, Sean or Cyhi. it all comes from Kanye because thats the only way you become a true artist is writing from personal experience about what your feeling or just wanting to spit hot shyt and thats what Ye did from the begining. I rather take Q-tips word over someone who has no idea what the fukk he's talking about tbh. lmao.
Rhymefest co-wrote the first verse on Jesus walks CD yes. but thats only one song and Kanye wrote verses for him also! Cyhi basically confirmed he didn't write Yeezus, but got credit for talking about the concept of the album.
But ok, whatever makes you feel better, i could give a shyt. i'm just saying ive done my research you haven't.
I'm done.
My nikka. This thread isn't about kanye's writing process. Kanye has people who help him write his songs... PERIOD. It's not an insult he just DOES. He also has people co-produce his albums as well PERIOD. You don't know more about hiphop then me fam you arent saying anything I don't already know you say co-wrote. I say WROTE. Nobody is helping me co-write this post write here my nikka you understand? because I can write for MYSELF. SO can NaS, Kanye Can as well but HE DOES NOT. He uses a team. Only person taking this personally is you find something better todo. I just wrote earlier giving him nothing but props and you still bytch. What a stan I hope you like his next album and it makes you happy, for real.
You're very poor at this. Your still saying he has a team of writers who write word for word his rhymes thoughout his career, when i given you references and evidence that state that isn't true. i done my research and given you proof and you have yet to prove me wrong on any valid point i made. all you done is reiterate the same bullshyt. thats the difference, so whos really catching feelings?. im not taking shyt personaily, i'm stating facts, while your clearly talking out ya ass saying you know everything hip hop, fuk outta here n1gga, you obvously don't. lmao.