Why Is Gucci Mane Always Brought Up Alongside T.I and Jeezy When Talking About The Inception Of Trap Muzik/Bringing It To The Forefront

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Trap is a derivative of what Three 6 have done, but they arent trap and the beats weren't trap. Three 6 is crunk. Being form the South has nothing to do with it, thats just basic music acumen.
Nikka are you fcking dumb? Atlanta said while the sound is different, it is derived from 36 Mafia/Memphis sound. the comment was "trap music can trace its original to 36 mafia/crunk/memphis" which is actual factual


why tf am i even arguing with a reptile? Go slither and snake somewhere else :dahell:
 

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Nikka are you fcking dumb? Atlanta said while the sound is different, it is derived from 36 Mafia/Memphis sound. the comment was "trap music can trace its original to 36 mafia/crunk/memphis" which is actual factual


why tf am i even arguing with a reptile? Go slither and snake somewhere else :dahell:
Shut the fukk up you fakkit I had enough your neurodivergent ass rants I even said myself in the fukking pot you fukking quoted trap is a derivative of crunk, THAT DONT MAKE THREE 6 TRAP you fukking doofus go eat whatever your allergic to you fukking fakkit
 

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T.I. is not a trap rapper. He has some trap adjacent songs, but he has never put out a whole trap album I say this as damn near a T.I. stan since the I'm Serious days. Jeezy had more mainstream success at first yes, I'm not going to argue against that point, but saying someone isn't a factor is saying they weren't relevant at all and that simply isn't true. He had already put out I wanna say 4 albums, a multitude of mixtapes, was being played in clubs(Freaky Gurl and Pillz), the streets(Trap House, My Kitchen, I Move Chickens, 16 Fever, I'm A Dog, etc he has TOO many street anthems) and had charting hits before 2009. To say he was a non factor just because he didn't create the literal name trap music or have the same mainstream success is trying to rewrite history. OP is just loud and wrong as hell.

nikkas STILL aint answer the OP lol.

On top of the fact he is also the most influential of all 3 of them. You asked when he became a factor and I did, and told you how he was a factor. You gotta be 13 or something bro you immature as fukk... matter of fact why am I arguing with a child about this.
 

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On top of the fact he is also the most influential of all 3 of them. You asked when he became a factor and I did, and told you how he was a factor. You gotta be 13 or something bro you immature as fukk... matter of fact why am I arguing with a child about this.
nikka shut up you didnt answer shyt went off on a tangent and spewed rhetoric. You said not one thing insightful. And fukk the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones is fukk boy
 

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Posters giving this man legit answers and keeps on arguing :mjlol:

Trap music wasn’t even considered a sub genre til late 2000s early 2010s when guess who became the most popular
Notice nikkas keep bringing fukking catalogs and mixtapes and when Gucci started rapping as opposed to answering WHAT THE fukk DID GUCCI DO IN THE EARLY/MID 2000s FOR TRAP? THEY CANT ANSWER THE fukkING QUESTION.
Trap House came out in 2005 an official album. Back to the trap house in 2007. Both albums had commercial hits :gucci:
 

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I think some people (hood nikkas of the time) looked at Gucci the same way they were looking at Iverson. He made them feel like anybody could make it, even if they didn’t have the traditional chops.

Of course either comparison would be incorrect. People were overlooking AI’s freakish athleticism, huge hands, ability to analyze the court, mental toughness, and years of work. They just saw somebody with similar height to theirs, busting everybody’s shyt with crossovers and getting to the rim automatically. They thought he was the GOAT for a time.

They also thought Gucci seemingly came out of nowhere with no dedication to being an artist, and no real connections outside of the street. Still wrong, dude out in WORK leading up to shyt like “So Icey”

To the people who popularized Gucci, he represented a low barrier to entry, music they didn’t have to think about, etc. image played a huge part in that.

TI was a polished recording artist and entertainer who rapped about “the trap”, but Jeezy and Gucci had two sides of a visual image that would probably overpower any Tips lyricism, verbal imagery, or felony filled rap sheet.

Jeezy was the rapper face of a drug empire and rapped like it.

Gucci was the face of any random street nikka that was irrationally confident that he would eventually land a recording deal while he sold dimes and quarters and errantly rhymed stupid bullshyt together.

They didn’t have the luck, looks, or talent of Tip. Some pretended to have the money and street backing of Jeezy, but a lot more felt like they could relate to and emulate the image of Gucci the most.

I guess it all ends up being preference. All three come from some facet of a street background.

At the end of the day the genre of “Trap Muzik” is exactly what Tip said on the song Trap Muzik “… sound underground like I’m rapping in a dope house, might as well be the way the feds got me scoped out…”
 

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I'm pretty much chalking it up to him not being from the South. I know here in Dallas we been fukking with Gucci since about the same time as Jeezy since 'So Icey' then Traphouse came out about the same time as TM101 and the Trap or Die mixtape did. He didn't have the same type of mainstream success at first Jeezy had(people forget Jeezy had a Jay-Z cosign which meant a lot back then), but to say he had no influence or wasn't a factor is just rewriting history.
diddy as well
 

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nikka you cant change what HE, the FOREFATHER considered trap music just because the sound changed. And Jeezy followed that blueprint because TM 101 and 102 more or less are sonically reminiscent of Trap Muzik, he even enlisted some of the same producers Tip did for Trap Muzik lol what is yall even talking about
He ain’t the father of shyt nikkas been rapping about selling dope he just named his album that

Jeezy, Gucci, Waka, Future more responsible for what trap music is sonically
 

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He ain’t the father of shyt nikkas been rapping about selling dope he just named his album that

Jeezy, Gucci, Waka, Future more responsible for what trap music is sonically
Once again completely ignoring the premise of the thread and bringing shyt that has nothing to do with the question at hand. If Tip not responsible for the sonics, then neither Jeezy; for reason I stated above.
 

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People try to rewrite history. Tip and Jeezy had real runs and time at the top of the game, its become fashionable to forget about them smfh
 
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