Why Teammates CLASHED With Allen Iverson

[nieman]

"Being in the gym" sounds like what Dahntay was already talking about, coming to the scrimmages and lighting niqqas up off of no work.

I don't think weights would hinder AI's game, taking your quickness from 100 to 97 while gaining strength and durability isn't a hinderance.

Shaq didn't have to completely stop working to be known as a guy whose work ethic was far behind his God given talent.

I know this about Kobe which why I said there's a middle ground between him and the AI/Shaq-type talents.

He would be in the gym working on his game, his conditioning, then they'd play. They all worked out together...76ers and Philly buls. So, saying he didn't work on his game means every Philly-NBA baller also didn't. He played 40-mins a night. Where'd he get that conditioning from if not offseason training? Now, imagine him adding more muscle, then trying to play 40-mins on top of that...it wouldn't have worked.

AI was already strong, and he's not frail at all. They wanted him to bulk up, which would've hindered his game. They kept saying he takes a beating so he needs to add more mass, and get bigger with muscle. That was the problem. He told them he wasn't doing that. It would've hindered his game though. Not only would he lose part of his quickness, he'd have to remodel his entire game...his entire jumpshot. That's like OKC saying they wanted Durant to bulk up like Giannis is now. They wanted him to get stronger, because he was frail, they didn't want him looking like Serge.

It's a myth. In real-time, Shaq didn't stop until after he won the 2nd chip. People were saying the movies, the albums and such would/could affect his offseason focus, BUT he came into each season with different parts to his game. He didn't even have the jump hook until LA. He didn't have the up-and-under until LA. He learned how to maneuver into his spots better like year 3 in Orlando. These are things you work on in the offseason. The OG C greats used to push him off his spots, away from the basket, and not allow him to get into position to go through them. By the time he got settled in LA, he was as much a finesse player, as he was a power player. Of course, the other Cs got older, but he also wasn't going through them as much. He wasn't pushing fast-breaks as much...he wasn't running them as much either. Shaq's main problem is that he was stubborn. If a certain number of possessions happened, and they didn't drop him the ball in the post, he would purposely get a offensive foul or 3 secs, and then wouldn't play defense on like the next 2-3 sequences. He did that in Orlando and LA. That's how it started about him not playing hard. The coming into offseason out-of-shape thing happened after the beef blew out of control.

 

[Toussaint]

All the work ethic in the world ain’t gonna make the man 6’4 210lbs. To put it in perspective Steve Nash had 3 inches and 10lbs on A.I. He also played the wrong position, wrong franchise, in the wrong era. We saw when he went to Denver and played 82 games and averaged 26ppg, 7apg on 45% shooting taking only 19 shots a game what AI would likely look like with better coaching, better players around him and in a laid back city like Denver.

Still basketball is just entertainment at the end of the day, if Iverson was playing that night you were getting your tickets worth.



I used to kill dudes with that swooping layup he would do and the floater in traffic. Learned that from the goat little man.

 

[Shadow King]

He would be in the gym working on his game, his conditioning, then they'd play. They all worked out together...76ers and Philly buls. So, saying he didn't work on his game means every Philly-NBA baller also didn't. He played 40-mins a night. Where'd he get that conditioning from if not offseason training? Now, imagine him adding more muscle, then trying to play 40-mins on top of that...it wouldn't have worked.

AI was already strong, and he's not frail at all. They wanted him to bulk up, which would've hindered his game. They kept saying he takes a beating so he needs to add more mass, and get bigger with muscle. That was the problem. He told them he wasn't doing that. It would've hindered his game though. Not only would he lose part of his quickness, he'd have to remodel his entire game...his entire jumpshot. That's like OKC saying they wanted Durant to bulk up like Giannis is now. They wanted him to get stronger, because he was frail, they didn't want him looking like Serge.

It's a myth. In real-time, Shaq didn't stop until after he won the 2nd chip. People were saying the movies, the albums and such would/could affect his offseason focus, BUT he came into each season with different parts to his game. He didn't even have the jump hook until LA. He didn't have the up-and-under until LA. He learned how to maneuver into his spots better like year 3 in Orlando. These are things you work on in the offseason. The OG C greats used to push him off his spots, away from the basket, and not allow him to get into position to go through them. By the time he got settled in LA, he was as much a finesse player, as he was a power player. Of course, the other Cs got older, but he also wasn't going through them as much. He wasn't pushing fast-breaks as much...he wasn't running them as much either. Shaq's main problem is that he was stubborn. If a certain number of possessions happened, and they didn't drop him the ball in the post, he would purposely get a offensive foul or 3 secs, and then wouldn't play defense on like the next 2-3 sequences. He did that in Orlando and LA. That's how it started about him not playing hard. The coming into offseason out-of-shape thing happened after the beef blew out of control.

Bro AI wouldn't be the first or last player to put on weight. Adding 15 pounds or so would not break his jumper, if he would've had to modify it, once again he wouldn't be first or last. He simply wanted to do shyt his way.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Bro AI wouldn't be the first or last player to put on weight. Adding 15 pounds or so would not break his jumper, if he would've had to modify it, once again he wouldn't be first or last. He simply wanted to do shyt his way.

That nikka refused to lift weights. He said that shyt at the practice rant press conference

Dude said if I get all swole like Arnold Schwarzenegger how is that gonna make me a better basketball player

nikkas idolize this nikka on some 2pac shyt and they can’t be reasoned with..

 

[MJ Truth]

I think Kobe growing up with another professional baller in his household probably played a big role In his drive and preparations. The same way it did for Klay, the Ball boys and even Steph. When you have strong Male role models in your life to push you to be better than even themselves, those worth ethics are goin to be higher than usual.

LeBron, KG, and many other players who grew in single mother households all have that same level of work ethic though, that’s higher than usual. Just the same way as there’s plenty of guys who had fathers in their home who didn’t build strong work ethics. This is a talking point that gets throw around but it’s completely based on nothing. There’s so few people with insane work ethic in the world period that it’s damn near impossible to attribute it to any specific thing.

 

[NormanConnors]

AI wasn't the perfect guy but the cats why a lot of cats rocked with him, he was relatable. If he had a lethal work ethic he would be as good as d wade if not better

AI is better than D Wade. Lb 4 Lb

 

[Joe Sixpack]

AI is better than D Wade. Lb 4 Lb

Jesus Christ



This isn’t boxing man you wylin with this pound for pound shyt.

Ain’t no way in hell is AI better then D Wade

 

[Professor Emeritus]

double

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

AI’s teammate on the wing like

 

[Harry Sax]

10,000 shots?

That video of Curry hitting 105 threes took 5 minutes. That's nonstop shooting.
10,000 shots before a game from anyone would be impossible.

Hence the name, psycho bean