With Skyscraper flopping, does The Rock need to change his gameplan?

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I know I know, the movie will make bank in China. We ain't in China.

Rock is clearly the biggest movie star out but his run past year has been kind of inconsistent. Baywatch flopped hard. Jumanji absolutely killed it. Rampage did above expectations. And Skyscarper will be a big dud.

Is he over-saturating himself? Should he slow down on all the movies he puts out a year or just take his losses when he can and keep it moving?

“Skyscraper,” an action film that sees Johnson’s security consultant battling to save his family at the top of the world’s tallest skyscraper, is coming in far below earlier estimates in the $33 million to $40 million range. It’s possible the lackluster performance is a result of Johnson fatigue, as The Rock starred in two major action films within the last 12 months, “Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle” and “Rampage,” which made its debut only three months ago. “Jumanji” was a surprise worldwide hit for Sony, earning $961 million globally, while “Rampage” has earned $425 million worldwide.
‘Hotel Transylvania 3’ Sailing to $40 Million-Plus Debut, ‘Skyscraper’ to Disappoint

This weekend The Rock is getting squashed by a horde of bloodsucking vampires as Sony Animation’s Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation is the prime destination for families with an estimated $42.2M, knocking down Dwayne Johnson’s Skyscraper to third place with $24.2M, a low result for the action star in his recent solo PG-13 credits. The opening for HT3 currently ranks behind Hotel Transylvania 2‘s $48.4M, and the first installment’s $42.5M, however, by Sunday could rep the second-best debut for the Adam Sandler ensemble series.

There’s a few reasons why Skyscraper is in shambles, but chiefly Johnson’s family crowd here is being swallowed up whole by both HT3 and the second weekend of Disney/Marvel’s Ant-Man and the Wasp which remains solid with an estimated $28.1M in second place. Another reality is that the last two weeks of the year brings in more multiplex traffic than the middle of July, which is one of the reasons why Johnson ensemble, Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle, didn’t have a problem legging out in the face of Star Wars: The Last Jedi to become the highest grossing title of his career stateside with $404.5M.

Some will say that Skyscraper is shackled by the fact that it’s original IP in a franchise-laden marketplace of Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, Incredibles 2, etc. I don’t necessarily buy that because Sony’s Jumanji was a dusty brand completely reinvigorated in its concept and comedy that outpaced Last Jedi in its wide-weekend play, 14 weekends to 8 weekends. If the premise and execution are intriguing enough, people will come out in droves, and clearly moviegoers aren’t feeling that with Skyscraper in its Die Hard redux.

In regards to the sour chatter on social media, RelishMix reports that Skyscraper “literally looks like a Die Hard update, but with a hero challenged by a prosthetic. And, as unlikely as it might seem, some comments suggest some wear out with Johnson, as in he seems involved in all the recent Hollywood blockbusters. Some fans are asking, ‘Where’s the fresh face?'” To that point, Sidney Poitier once dispensed some advice to Denzel Washington: “If they see you for free all week, they won’t pay to see you on the weekend”. While Johnson always gives a 1000% in promoting his films everywhere on social media and around the world, there is something to be said, that perhaps he may have overexposed himself this year on the marquee; that Skyscraper could have benefited from being on next year’s slate, particularly with Jumanji and Rampage accounting for combined $1.4 billion worth of global ticket sales since late December.

While many in the industry questioned the kooky concept of the Rock paired with an ape and various monsters in Rampage last April, Warner Bros. comes off looking like geniuses in hindsight by putting that pic ahead of the summer competition and milking the pic for all that it was worth (this despite the fact that it opened below its $40M projection and fell short of the century mark with $99M stateside). At $140M production cost and a $425.6M global gross, 38% of that coming from China, finance sources tell us that Rampage will likely be around breakeven two years after its release once all markets have played out including foreign TV deals. Even with a B+ CinemaScore, just below the A-s of Rampage and San Andreas, it will be a hard road for Skyscraper in regards to collecting black ink — certainly harder than Rampage. Even with Wanda’s Legendary Entertainment involved here covering 50% of the reported $125M production cost, they may have assisted in getting more movie screens in the Middle Kingdom, but I’m informed that Skyscraper is considered a U.S. production and will only see around 25% of its China B.O., and no downstream ancillaries. Skyscraper bows in China via Legendary East on July 20.

‘Skyscraper’ Up In Flames With $24M+ As ‘Hotel Transylvania 3’ Books $42M+ Weekend Voyage
 

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Nobody asked the Rock to do a poor man's die hard.

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Nah. Rocks hit or miss. Baywatch flopped jumanji was a home run. Rampage didn’t work here but it killed overseas. This movie will probably be the same. He’ll continue to be hit or miss so as long as he’s good with that and the roles don’t dry up, he’s good.

Doesn’t mean I like every flick he does but from a business standpoint he’s fine. He truly believes in his brand and believe people come to see his movies for him. But what he doesn’t get quite yet is that his name doesn’t mean they’ll see him in everything he does. I don’t see him switching it up any time soon
 

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Nah. Rocks hit or miss. Baywatch flopped jumanji was a home run. Rampage didn’t work here but it killed overseas. This movie will probably be the same. He’ll continue to be hit or miss so as long as he’s good with that and the roles don’t dry up, he’s good.

Doesn’t mean I like every flick he does but from a business standpoint he’s fine. He truly believes in his brand and believe people come to see his movies for him. But what he doesn’t get quite yet is that his name doesn’t mean they’ll see him in everything he does. I don’t see him switching it up any time soon
Which works in the short term but in the long game it can hurt him. But then again, eventually every actor fizzles out and maybe Rock doesn't care about people eventually getting tired of him and wants to milk the present until the cow is dry.
 

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It was released at a really bad time. Not sure why they wanted to throw in in the middle of summer. I would've waited for August when everything had died down, but I know this movie was somewhat of a passion project for him, so maybe he convinced the studio to go all in. Like you said, it'll be saved by worldwide box office.

He probably should slow down and get a bit more critical when checking out scripts (how did Baywatch: The Movie sound like a good idea to anyone) because he does have shelf life as a worldwide mega star, but it's hard to do that and to blame him for not doing so when the Brinks truck keeps backing up to your house. I would probably keep riding it until the wheels fell off myself. :yeshrug:

I think the trailer looks decent and plan to see it on Monday or Tuesday.
 

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Which works in the short term but in the long game it can hurt him. But then again, eventually every actor fizzles out and maybe Rock doesn't care about people eventually getting tired of him and wants to milk the present until the cow is dry.

Yeah man you make your money while you’re hot because you will be replaced. No one is above that shyt. “They’ll have a new nikka next year” is Gospel in Hollywood. Rock comes from wrestling and that’s how it is in wrestling. You have a short window to make your money before the crowd gets sick of you. So he had to hustle to get to the top and keep his spot and got out at the right time. What will keep him going in Hollywood is the fact he has his own production company and has his hands in a lot of different pots. And if the movie thing doesn’t work he can always fall back to tv then make the “comeback” in movies.

What rock does need is his one franchise tho. Tom Cruise’s movies don’t set the world on fire anymore....unless it’s mission impossible. People love him in that and will pay good money to see him run. Hobbs and Shaw may be the beginning of that for him. He needs something sustainable to fall back on whenever a failure hits.
 

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It was released at a really bad time. Not sure why they wanted to throw in in the middle of summer. I would've waited for August when everything had died down, but I know this movie was somewhat of a passion project for him, so maybe he convinced the studio to go all in. Like you said, it'll be saved by worldwide box office.

He probably should slow down and get a bit more critical when checking out scripts (how did Baywatch: The Movie sound like a good idea to anyone) because he does have shelf life as a worldwide mega star, but it's hard to do that and to blame him for not doing so when the Brinks truck keeps backing up to your house. I would probably keep riding it until the wheels fell off myself. :yeshrug:

I think the trailer looks decent and plan to see it on Monday or Tuesday.

He’s got a clause in his contract for most of these movies that pays him a million just to tweet or put shyt on IG promoting the movie. Breh, if I had some shyt like that, I’d make sure I do two-three movies a year. You’re paying me a million just to tweet?? nikka where do I sign
 

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His major problem is he just needs to slow the fukk down on his movie releases.

Most major actors put out a movie a year. This dude cranks out 2-3.... the only guy who does that is Samuel L. Jackson and we expect him to be in damn near everything. :heh:
 
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Will Smith showed us how you can be hot for 15+ years and then “fall off” for anything less than a record breaking movie. If the Rocks goal is to secure the bag and make as much money as possible, I wouldn’t do a damn thing different. To be honest I’d steer clear of franchises. Outside of RDJ, I don’t think the actors are really making “much.”

Note: I don’t think Will Smith fell off. I think he made his money, then tried to put his kids on, and now just takes whatever he thinks is interesting.
 

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His major problem is he just needs to slow the fukk down on his movie releases.

Most major actors put out a movie a year. This dude cranks out 2-3.... the only guy who does that is Samuel L. Jackson and we expect him to be in damn near everything. :heh:
Sam has the same ethos tho; he wants to get paid. He’s not worried about the stuff fans are. He looks at it like any other job. You take the work to make sure you’ve got income or money to save up. I’m sure rocky is the same way. Don’t underestimate the wrestler mentality. If any of you watched or still watch wrestling, it wouldn’t be hard to understand why rocky is the way he is and why he works as much as he does.
 
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