Woman living in china is paying 278 a month for a 3 bedroom apt.

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That’s the main issue, that’s the elephant in the room everyone in this thread is ignoring

What type of job is a black American getting working in China, most foreign countries not about to give you any real job especially China, the only shyt that might be possible is working for an American company but you would still have to already be living in them countries to get those jobs

Yeah. Even though I'm out the country often to increase my QOL, I never do the "everything about America sucks" routine because the USD is my lifeblood.
 

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My panties aren't in a twist. You just didn't read what I actually said. You jumped in late, ran your ignorant mouth, and now you're refusing to engage with the full argument because it disrupts your romanticized view of China. That's on YOU.
How did I jump in late when I responded to your first post in this thread.

And now you're the one who is misrepresenting my words. Where have I romanticised China?

Yeah, it kind of is. For all your freedom, your people are skipping meals and shook to go to the hospital for anything less than a medical emergency.

And what did the freedom in America earn. A growing divide between the rich and poor, an orange Ape wiping his ass with your constitution, and a nazi supporting lunatic wielding a chainsaw as he condemns Americans to the breadline.

No you didn't.

The problem with a lot of Americans is not realising we're not in 2008 anymore.

Your country has regresses considerably that you're no longer in a position to turn your noses up at countries like China.

America has done a good job at selling the world that the average American citizen is living a rich life.

People see shows like Friends and think that's what they're missing out on. I wouldn't pat myself on the back if I were you.

You've been doing for decades what you accuse the woman in the video of doing.

Don't get your panties in a twist when someone holds a mirror to your face.
Explaining to someone why someone would pick the lesser of 2 evils isn't romanticising one option. You think that way because you Yanks have a knee jerk reaction when it comes to be compared to being compared to dictatorship. You forget the state many of you are actually living in because you have freedom, which is looking more and more like a joke each day.
 

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Yeah. Even though I'm out the country often to increase my QOL, I never do the "everything about America sucks" routine because the USD is my lifeblood.
Lowkey in a way we stuck in America, unless you really got ties in another country

Ain’t nobody going to pay foreigners top dollar in the economy, America ironically is an anomaly when it comes to wages/jobs for foreigners, it’s so many people who got companies moving them to America to work and shyt

Can you imagine going to China, Singapore , Korea, Taiwan, etc trying to get a science based job as an American, let alone a black American

The only places I can think of is west Europe, Australia, and New Zealand for Americans to get real jobs overseas

Then the wages while good in that country is not good when you still attached to America, folks got to take care of family and all types of shyt or maybe got to go back home with barely any money
 

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How did I jump in late when I responded to your first post in this thread.

And now you're the one who is misrepresenting my words. Where have I romanticised China?








Explaining to someone why someone would pick the lesser of 2 evils isn't romanticising one option. You think that way because you Yanks have a knee jerk reaction when it comes to be compared to being compared to dictatorship. You forget the state many of you are actually living in because you have freedom, which is looking more and more like a joke each day.
Go somewhere with that "yank" shyt. I'm not some fukking flag-waver. I'm not a gullible campist either. I've already made my position clear.

I hate how the US manages to combine the worst parts of capitalism with creeping authoritarianism, and then has the nerve to tell us it's the price of freedom. There's no excuse for how hard basic survival has become here, especially when we're constantly told we live in the richest, greatest country on earth. On that, I fully agree.

But I brought up the "gilded cage" framing because you and @Tommy Knocks comment's leaned on a kind of instrumentalist logic -- the idea that people might accept repression if it delivers material comfort. You might not be endorsing censorship, but that line of reasoning still risks softening how we talk about authoritarianism. It shifts the conversation from whether repression is wrong to how much it can be tolerated in exchange for stability, and that's a slope a lot of people slide down without realizing it.

We should absolutely demand the kind of competent, humane governance that gave us Medicare, strong public services, and fair, livable wages. But we should also reject the idea that political repression is somehow tolerable when paired with lower rent, better trains or mega-cities. People deserve both freedom and dignity, not one as compensation for the loss of the other.
I'm not forgetting shyt. I'm saying we should reject both models -- the corporate feudalism we have here *and* the authoritarian statism you're now defending as somehow more functional. Neither one should be acceptable. Neither one is liberating. The fact that you're calling a totalitarian state "the lesser of 2 evils" tells me everything I need to know.
 
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Lowkey in a way we stuck in America, unless you really got ties in another country

Ain’t nobody going to pay foreigners top dollar in the economy, America ironically is an anomaly when it comes to wages/jobs for foreigners, it’s so many people who got companies moving them to America to work and shyt

Can you imagine going to China, Singapore , Korea, Taiwan, etc trying to get a science based job as an American, let alone a black American

The only places I can think of is west Europe, Australia, and New Zealand for Americans to get real jobs overseas

Then the wages while good in that country is not good when you still attached to America, folks got to take care of family and all types of shyt or maybe got to go back home with barely any money

yep, its why i live a hybrid model lifestyle. part time in the states, part time outside of it. i enjoy each country for what it is including america because anyone who truly has traveled knows none of these countries are all gold or all sour. its only the people who are stuck at home watching propaganda or carry some weird vendetta that can't be objective.
 

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Can someone start a "how to relocate to China thread already". Enough of these threads, let's start the migration to this land of milk and honey.

I do want an expat thread, lotta brehs in here have years and years of knowledge they could share. fukk this place, ICE is the American Gestapo.
 

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Go somewhere with that "yank" shyt. I'm not some fukking flag-waver. I'm not a gullible campist either. I've already made my position clear.


I'm not forgetting shyt. I'm saying we should reject both models -- the corporate feudalism we have here *and* the authoritarian statism you're now defending as somehow more functional. Neither one should be acceptable. Neither one is liberating. The fact that you're calling a totalitarian state "the lesser of 2 evils" tells me everything I need to know.
Is the concept of the lesser of 2 evils easier for you to understand when arguing blue over red?

You sound like your typical yank who is still in denial about how low your Nation has sunk. I'm not defending the latter model. What I'm doing is telling you why people would pick it over the garbage America has going on. In addition to having no real power, your people are not looked after.
 

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Is the concept of the lesser of 2 evils easier for you to understand when arguing blue over red?

You sound like your typical yank who is still in denial about how low your Nation has sunk. I'm not defending the latter model. What I'm doing is telling you why people would pick it over the garbage America has going on. In addition to having no real power, your people are not looked after.
Get the fukk outta here with this smarmy ass bullshyt. You sound like the typical "up their own ass" Brit. I understand the concept just fine. I just refuse to apply it lazily when it comes to authoritarianism. You're pretending to explain what people *would* choose, but you keep editorializing that choice in a way that clearly telegraphs what *you* think is reasonable. But that's not analysis. It's definitely not clarity. It's a kind of weak-willed concession dressed up as realism.

And spare me the dime-store psychoanalysis. I've been relentlessly critical of this country in this thread and on this forum -- what I'm *not* doing is romanticizing repression just because it appears more "efficient." The idea that people are "looked after" in an authoritarian state at the cost of everything else is exactly the kind of trade-off I'm rejecting.
 
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