Would Dre be a legend without Snoop and the Dogg Pound on The Chronic?

[avon barksdale]

Now hear me out ..Easy E started NWA,So let's just say DRE came out with the chronic without snoop,does DRE still be as big as he is?

 

[Ashtrey]

Hell no.. one of the main reasons I bought the chronic was to hear snoop rap.. after his verse on "deep cover" I was fiending for anything snoop related.. but obviously dres beats helped out

 

[Non Sequitur]

Do Snoop and the Dogg Pound live past age 25 without Dr. Dre?

 

[avon barksdale]

I ask this question because i always said that album was snoop and his crew...but back in the day they said Dre could made anybody into a star.But i think Dre wouldn't be Dre without snoop.

 

[George's Dilemma]

Fair question to ask, but his track record was stellar before and after the Snoop days. Signed Em, played a role into 50's and Kendrick Lamar's success. Prior to Snoop, after Cube left NWA, his production carried the efil4zaggiN album. Gave us Above the Law, production on DOC's and Eazy's album. While Snoop was on the 2001 album, he wasnt the main feature, more of a role player. So going back to your original question, the legend of Dr.Dre was bound to happen regardless. Snoop is likely more evidence of such than the sole cause. Still a fair question though.

 

[avon barksdale]

Fair question to ask, but his track record was stellar before and after the Snoop days. Signed Em, played a role into 50's and Kendrick Lamar's success. Prior to Snoop, after Cube left NWA, his production carried the efil4zaggiN album. Gave us Above the Law, production on DOC's and Eazy's album. While Snoop was on the 2001 album, he wasnt the main feature, more of a role player. So going back to your original question, the legend of Dr.Dre was bound to happen regardless. Snoop is likely more evidence of such than the sole cause. Still a fair question though.

but look at his album when he left deathrow without snoop and his click...that been there done that shyt didn't sell well.And then he got back with snoop on 2001 AND it sold,so i think snoop is why dre is big as he is

 

[hex]

I ask this question because i always said that album was snoop and his crew...but back in the day they said Dre could made anybody into a star.But i think Dre wouldn't be Dre without snoop.

This is correct. You seen how that "Aftermath Presents" was received.

Dre could make anyone a star back then but he also needs other people to be relevant. He went from NWA/Ruthless to Snoop Dogg/Death Row to Eminem/Aftermath. He's never really been in the spotlight without someone else.

Fred.

 

[DaveyDave]

Look at Snoops track record after dre left Death Row. Aftermath Presente isn't a real Dre album. It's a label compilation, are you gonna say west coast bad boys is a Master P album? I think Dre only has 2 or 3 productions on Aftermath Presents and not many vocals so to say its a Dre album isn't very fair.

 

[hex]

Look at Snoops track record after dre left Death Row. Aftermath Presente isn't a real Dre album. It's a label compilation, are you gonna say west coast bad boys is a Master P album? I think Dre only has 2 or 3 productions on Aftermath Presents and not many vocals so to say its a Dre album isn't very fair.

Doesn't matter. Comparison makes no sense because Master P could be successful with no help as a solo artist.

Snoop had a long career after he left Death Row. Quality-wise? He fell off. Most rappers fall off though.

You could just as easily say "look at the quality of Dre's music once he stopped fukking with the DOC".

"Aftermath Presents" was a Dre project. Whether or not it was an EP, album, or compilation is irrelevant. He was the biggest name on it, and it was supposed to jump-start a label he founded.

Dre either produced or co-produced half of "Aftermath Presents". He didn't have many vocals because he didn't have a ghostwriter, and for the first time in his career he didn't have a co-pilot.

Until Eminem popped up. Dude was in a free fall. I remember vividly how he was attaching himself to anyone remotely poppin, dude tried to sign Last Emperor at one point before Em. He was just grasping at straws.

Fred.

 

[DaveyDave]

The comparison was between the albums not whether Dre or P would be successful by themselves. I'm not giving Dre some kind of pass but to say he would be nothing without Snoop of all people is ludicrous IMO. Dre was already famous and people were anticipating HIS album before they knew of Snoop. They wanted to know what he would do without Easy and Ren. The fact that Dre had at least 4 great to classic albums under his belt before Snoop even knows how to structure a song should tell you something.

The hip hip landscape was changin a lot in 96/97 when Sre put that album out and people weren't necessarily checking for a compilation "Dre" album with little to no Dre input on it as much as they were for a Dre album in 1992

 

[hex]

The comparison was between the albums not whether Dre or P would be successful by themselves. I'm not giving Dre some kind of pass but to say he would be nothing without Snoop of all people is ludicrous IMO. Dre was already famous and people were anticipating HIS album before they knew of Snoop. They wanted to know what he would do without Easy and Ren. The fact that Dre had at least 4 great to classic albums under his belt before Snoop even knows how to structure a song should tell you something.

The hip hip landscape was changin a lot in 96/97 when Sre put that album out and people weren't necessarily checking for a compilation "Dre" album with little to no Dre input on it as much as they were for a Dre album in 1992

I don't know where you're from or how old you are but people were just as excited about hearing Snoop rap as they were about it being a new Dre album. Snoop's buzz was insane after "Deep Cover".

He was the draw for "The Chronic". Likewise Eazy/Cube was the draw for NWA. Likewise Eminem is the draw for Aftermath.

And nobody said Dre "would be nothing" without Snoop and the Dogg Pound. But if you take them off you're left with Rage, RBX and Dre. "The Chronic" would not be what it is today.

Fred.

 

[DaveyDave]

I don't know where you're from or how old you are but people were just as excited about hearing Snoop rap as they were about it being a new Dre album. Snoop's buzz was insane after "Deep Cover".

He was the draw for "The Chronic". Likewise Eazy/Cube was the draw for NWA. Likewise Eminem is the draw for Aftermath.

And nobody said Dre "would be nothing" without Snoop and the Dogg Pound. But if you take them off you're left with Rage, RBX and Dre. "The Chronic" would not be what it is today.

Fred.

I think. It's obvious if Snoop and DPG weren't on the album or signed to DR then there would have been someone else. Whether they would be as good as Snoop and them who knows. Snoop was a big draw card but you can't act like people didn't care abou Dre's side of it. Many people probably wondered if he could spend a whole album rapping and make it listenable but if Snoop signed with ATL and debuted on Black Mafia Life instead of The Chronic would his hype be similar? I doubt it

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

I think Dre's contributions to NWA alone would qualify him as a "legend of hip hop." But if Snoop hadnt wrote the Chronic, it's reasonable to think that Dre would've faded off into oblivion.

But he did co-found death row with Suge, so it's safe to assume he wouldve found somebody to make him big either way though.

He's not really a rapper though, just a producer who happens to rap when someone writes some lyrics for him. So that must be included in the equation

 

[hex]

I think. It's obvious if Snoop and DPG weren't on the album or signed to DR then there would have been someone else. Whether they would be as good as Snoop and them who knows. Snoop was a big draw card but you can't act like people didn't care abou Dre's side of it. Many people probably wondered if he could spend a whole album rapping and make it listenable but if Snoop signed with ATL and debuted on Black Mafia Life instead of The Chronic would his hype be similar? I doubt it

It's safe to say neither of their careers would be the same had they not collaborated on "The Chronic".

All Dre brings to the table is beats. That's it. So you can't assume "The Chronic" would be a classic with the classic beats but none of the classic verses. Nor can we assume whoever would replace Snoop/DPG would be as good as them.

Fred.

 

[DaveyDave]

People weren't signing to Death Row because of Suge or even because of Snoop, not when it first started. Snoop has said himself the reason he signed is because of Dre. Cats are in here acting like Dre wasn't shyt and no one cared about him when he left NWA and started DR.