Yall remember when art barr said juice co-wrote will smiths summertime

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One thing that Townes had to set the record straight about was a long-held rumor that Rakim had ghostwritten Smith's lyrics on the song. But, as Townes explained, Smith was the sole author.

It's just that the group was at a tricky point in their rap career just before the record dropped, having had lots of crossover success with songs like 'Parents Just Don't Understand.' Their cred among hip-hop purists was waning.

Townes told Smith to not add his name to the beginning of the song in order for rap fans not to dismiss it immediately as a pop tune. Instead, he instructed Smith to use another approach.

"Will was always very hyper and I told him, 'Bring it back. Vibe with it,'" Townes said. "And when he did that, everyone was like, 'Wow. He sounds like Rakim.' From the first day we played the record for people, they thought it was Rakim. When we first released it, everyone was like, 'Did you hear that new song that Rakim did?'"






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BallerStatus.com: Have you done ghost-writing for any artists?

Juice: When I first moved back to Chicago from L.A., I began working with Clubhouse Entertainment. I was part of a writing team that produced "Summertime" by Will Smith, "The Kissing Game" by High Five, "Pass the Toilet Paper" by OutHere Brothers. I would freestyle in the booth and if there were any hot lines to be used, they would use 'em. I didn't really understand publishing at the time and didn't really care because those cats kind of took me in. We got sued by Kool and the Gang for the sample and nobody made money. It let me know that I had what it took to be a writer though. I am still working with the producer of "Summertime" (K Fingers aka AZZA). Everyone in Chicago knows he's still my guy. We just wrote and produced an album for a new artist, and I'm re-writing "Summertime" for him (He's a shorty, so we think it could work again). We'll see."


Now,....shut the fukk up!
 

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Just gonna set this over here.

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Cause if he said it, that makes it true. You been drinking too much cock juice fakkit :umad:

juice being part of a writing group doesn't = him writing summertime


if there was a writing group that put together summertime, i wouldn't be surprised


if will smith wrote it himself i wouldn't be surprised

basically, who really cares? will smith is too big of a star at this point that i doubt he'll ever address it personally again and beyond that it's all speculation
 

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:rudy: Nas and Lauryn Hill rap NOTHING alike.

Exactly. Nas writing style was too choppy and like he himself said in Ghetto Dreams "subject matter be switching at times..."

Art Barr has said that to me and I don't know what in the hell he is talking about :snoop:

Like the most embarrassing negro in black history Wyclef Jean said, he taught her the basics and eventually she started being able to write herself

Lol the guy says some good things but there are certain times i wonder what the hell is he talking about
 

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Will was biting Rakim's style and flow. Doesnt mean Rakim necessarily had to write the rhymes.
 
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