You CAN'T Necessarily Blame Hip-Hop/Rap Culture For Gang Violence (Parents NEED To Be More Involved)

[Blackout]

I think they liked it because it's fun, not cuz it's uplifting
the problem is there is a prepackaged identity that rappers adhere to for some reason and genuine self expression in mainstream lyrics is almost nonexistant but hey
parents should just make their kids read books and play sports and shyt

There are many fun and uplifting rappers out there putting out material that these labels wont promote lol.

The kids mostly listen to what is put on the radio above all else. They will change from fun to serious if the radio promotes it.

That problem that you mention is because the labels are stopping them from expressing themselves if its uplifitng.

The G shyt is fine but when you talk about your uplifting side you get this:

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/14302447/

 

[BmoreGorilla]

They had their own "drill music", songs they would sing to prepare them to kill "savages"

Not different from the call and response songs that people in modern military sing before committing atrocities.

It's hilarious how many of you think these songs have no effect on people psychologically because "I listened to a song and didn't kill anyone"

If you have good role models in place your less likely to be psychologically influenced by entertainment. The reality is too many of our children see the things mentioned in songs on a daily basis with their own two eyes. They don't even need the music to be surrounded by negativity

 

[wet landscapes]

There are many fun and uplifting rappers out there putting out material that these labels wont promote lol.

The kids mostly listen to what is put on the radio above all else. They will change from fun to serious if the radio promotes it.

That problem that you mention is because the labels are stopping them from expressing themselves if its uplifitng.

The G shyt is fine but when you talk about your uplifting side you get this:

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/14302447/

to be fair, an artist who puts being uplifting over being entertaining should just be a politician
it's still music, which is entertainment
and if your sound doesn't move others, then they aren't going to invest their time and money on you
"what's going on" was a great sounding song first and political commentary second for the people listening to it
and interscope pushed kdots "i"

 

[Starski]

I was 13 listening to Biggie get head on wax. I was 12 listening to Cube kill cops on wax. I was 12 listening to Onyx say throw your guns in the air. And I had all kinds of other shyt. You kno who bought me all those albums? My mother. She didn't care cuz she knew I was being raised right. I've always let my son listen to whatever. He's 16 now and was one C from the honor roll. Point is you can't blame the music one bit. a$$holes been raising a$$holes long before hip hop

One C too short

Your son is now going to end up like @indica

 

[Blackout]

to be fair, an artist who puts being uplifting over being entertaining should just be a politician
it's still music, which is entertainment
and if your sound doesn't move others, then they aren't going to invest their time and money on you
"what's going on" was a great sounding song first and political commentary second for the people listening to it
and interscope pushed kdots "i"

Music can be both entertaining and political.
A sound can move others but if it isn't pushed by a big time label and the radio it won't get far.
Labels have power that your greatly underestimating.
Many rappers who get radio push like Young Thug wouldn't even be as big if they never got label and radio push lol.

Underestimating a labels power of promotion is a problem as well.

 

[wet landscapes]

Music can be both entertaining and political.
A sound can move others but if it isn't pushed by a big time label and the radio it won't get far.
Labels have power that your greatly underestimating.
Many rappers who get radio push like Young Thug wouldn't even be as big if they never got label and radio push lol.

Underestimating a labels power of promotion is a problem as well.

but it already happened, why are you ignoring the few rappers who do rap about "non damaging" things?
idk it feels kinda silly campaigning for a business to be more ethical in their choices about what music they promote (to make themselves money) when we live in a world where no one would help you if you were getting stabbed up on a train
I know they wouldn't pick the more ethical choice over the choice that will turn them a bigger profit, I just don't think thats how it works

 

[Matt504]

They had the intent to kill

People kill because they want to

People think so negative of hip hop but are the main promoters of negative hip hop

You're a Young Thug fan

Why didn't you kill anybody yet?

Because I don't live in circumstances where I even have to entertain the idea much, I don't have enemies or opps that I have to look over my shoulder for. I don't need to be mentally prepared to extinguish life, although I am because I listen to music that is a constant reminder that shyt isn't sweet in the streets.

If you have good role models in place your less likely to be psychologically influenced by entertainment. The reality is too many of our children see the things mentioned in songs on a daily basis with their own two eyes. They don't even need the music to be surrounded by negativity

I somewhat agree

Now do the communities that this kind of music is a mirror image of have enough "good role models"?

 

[Darts]

Some people always need the easy scapegoat for problems in life. It's comforting when you don't have to rack your brain or do some deep analysis into the root of a problem...so they just blame it on things that people consume like music, tv, games or whatever.

 

[Blackout]

but it already happened, why are you ignoring the few rappers who do rap about "non damaging" things?
idk it feels kinda silly campaigning for a business to be more ethical in their choices about what music they promote (to make themselves money) when we live in a world where no one would help you if you were getting stabbed up on a train
I know they wouldn't pick the more ethical choice over the choice that will turn them a bigger profit, I just don't think thats how it works

Im not ignoring them. Im showing how they are minimal in number compared to back then.

Yes rap has become purely about profits without even a bit of ethical care. Which would be fine if it wasnt affecting the youth to do negative things and if uplifting rap wasnt being promoted before just fine with them still able to get profits yet they threw it all away just to promote g shyt.

Then you have things like this which is rediculous:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/kend...s-anymore-in-interviews.337208/#post-14302447

How Anonymous Forced Atlantic Records to Release Lupe Fiasco's 'Tetsuo and Youth' Album

They are making moves to kill uplifting rap.

 

[BiggWebb79]

It's all relative.

 

[wet landscapes]

Im not ignoring them. Im showing how they are minimal in number compared to back then.

Yes rap has become purely about profits without even a bit of ethical care. Which would be fine if it wasnt affecting the youth to do negative things and if uplifting rap wasnt being promoted before just fine with them still able to get profits yet they threw it all away just to promote g shyt.

Then you have things like this which is rediculous:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/kend...s-anymore-in-interviews.337208/#post-14302447

How Anonymous Forced Atlantic Records to Release Lupe Fiasco's 'Tetsuo and Youth' Album

They are making moves to kill uplifting rap.

yeah but music execs business practices doesn't have to matter for parents because they have a ton of control of their kids lives
you could do anything
put a rap block filter on their home computer
spend time introducing tons and tons of music and different genres during important developmental periods
get them interested in instruments and teach them how to read music

if you think that they are trying to hurt blacks with music, it doesn't even matter because we aren't sitting ducks
a record exec will never affect you like your parents will

 

[Blackout]

yeah but music execs business practices doesn't have to matter for parents because they have a ton of control of their kids lives
you could do anything
put a rap block filter on their home computer
spend time introducing tons and tons of music and different genres during important developmental periods
get them interested in instruments and teach them how to read music

if you think that they are trying to hurt blacks with music, it doesn't even matter because we aren't sitting ducks
a record exec will never affect you like your parents will

Again, I never said anything against parents supporting their kids.

I said that I agreed with you and OP on that one.

Im just exposing how big of an effect these white ran labels that control rap music has on these kids.

 

[BlackAchilles]

The gangsta culture isn't the sickness just yet another symptom

 

[mrken12]

thats why theres "workout music"
and music to get your "groovin"
music you make "love to"

but yeah carry on

Of course because people who go out robbing and shooting people have a "ruin my community" playlist playing on their iPod while they're doing it.

 

[Danie84]

Discipline does starts at home

...I can't comprehend how these NoHopefortheFuture nikkas don't learn from the plights of the past, and still overcome the bullshyt to better themselves, tho