BmoreGorilla
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Nobody was blaming hip hop in the late 80s early 90s when crime was worse than it is now
You CAN'T Necessarily Blame Hip-Hop/Rap Culture For Gang Violence (Parents NEED To Be More Involved)
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I will NEVER understand why people who hate rap music post in a "Sports, Hip-Hop, and Piff" forum
ive been here from day 1, even back on sohh i only posted in the coliseum, rec room and the ladiesroom
i have nearly 100k posts and prob only posted in the booth like 15 times
BmoreGorilla
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Exactly. Hip hop is influenced by what's going on in the streets not the other way around. If we want the music to be more positive there needs to be more positivity in our communityThe numbers don't lie
Reduce the number of OOW births, build strong families, stress education and entrepreneurship--you'd see the Black community transform very quickly.
It's going to take Black men and Black women overhauling everything we value and take as the norm in Black culture.
Blackout
just your usual nerdy brotha
Parents can only reach so far especially when competing with Internet and friends reach.it has as much power as a parent gives it imo
black labels don't exist already?
They do have black ran labels but they aren't getting as much support as white ran labels.
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BlackAchilles
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My beef with this line of reasoning too is it denies us agency/mental competence.
Like we gonna act like white artists haven't been making dark/violent music since Jim Morrison and Ozzy Osbourne hit the scene?
Like we gonna act like white artists haven't been making dark/violent music since Jim Morrison and Ozzy Osbourne hit the scene?
Flay Mayweather
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That's what I been trying to tell this imposter @phonzi but he just wont admit im right and he's white
BmoreGorilla
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Who were people blaming in the late 80s early 90s?
She didn't start on her campaign until about 93. That's when the tide started to shift and more blame was being put on the music. The biggest acts of the late 80s early 90s were PE, Tribe, De La Soul, even MC Hammer. None of them sold negativity. NWA wasn't selling negativity till their second album when they didn't have Cube writing the lyrics anymore
It's funny how everyone who blames Hip-Hop for violence in the hood,,, isn't actually from the fukking hood. From Bill O'Reilly to your Canadian ass. I'd be willing to bet Phonzi is from the burbs too. How do you know the cause of violence when you only see it in documentaries and online news articles, breh?
You're buying into racist respectability politic bullshyt. And this is coming from a white guy
Art imitates life, not the other way around.
but but white people, who give a damn about cacs let em worry about their own problems.
The same brehs who say yeah man if it wasnt for marvin gaye or barry white I wouldnt be made, or when I sexing I'm listening to R kelly. Or when I'm working out that gets me hyped, or man i bump nas because it makes me think, or decrypting some rappers verse
but when it comes to the violence and ignorance its nah its just music it has no effect, when the only male voice many of these nikkaz here is a rapper spewing filth in their music hours a day
why do yout hink they have like "elevator music"
or when your on hold they play a certain time of song
or when your at a lounge they ain't playing chief keef
when your in a uppity type place they aint playing young thug
but no music has no effect
i can open up songza right now and get musci to get you in the mood music to this music for that
but nah
It's funny how everyone who blames Hip-Hop for violence in the hood,,, isn't actually from the fukking hood. From Bill O'Reilly to your Canadian ass. I'd be willing to bet Phonzi is from the burbs too. How do you know the cause of violence when you only see it in documentaries and online news articles, breh?
You're buying into racist respectability politic bullshyt. And this is coming from a white guy
does a cardiologist have to have a heart attack to speak on the innerworkings of the heart or to diagnose heart disease?
yeah thought so, your whole rambling is just typical cac jargon, you subconsciously want the black man beneat you, rotting in fatherless homes and private jail systems, f outta here CAC.
It’s a lot of things goin on y’all
21st century is comin
20th century almost done
A lot of things have changed
A lot of things have not, mainly us
We gon’ get it together right? I believe that
Listen.. people be askin me all the time,
“Yo Mos, what’s gettin ready to happen with Hip-Hop?”
“Where do you think Hip-Hop is goin?”
I tell em, “You know what’s gonna happen with Hip-Hop?”
“Whatever’s happening with us”
If we smoked out, Hip-Hop is gonna be smoked out
If we doin alright, Hip-Hop is gonna be doin alright
People talk about Hip-Hop like it’s some giant livin in the hillside
comin down to visit the townspeople
We are Hip-Hop
Me, you, everybody, we are Hip-Hop
So Hip-Hop is goin where we goin
So the next time you ask yourself where Hip-Hop is goin
ask yourself.. where am I goin? How am I doin?
I think it's a two-way exchange. The streets influence hip hop and hip hop influences the streets.
Where are we going as Black people? What's our 10-year plan? Are we smoked out? Are our communities in shambles?
It's only natural that the music will also be fukked up.
Isaiah Bradley
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Yes, hip-hop has contributed to it, but you have to look at it this way where are the parents? They are the ones who should be raising the children. When I was a child, there was this thing called the village. You have to have a great support system and that's how I turned into the wonderful man I am todayI see nobody blames video games all that much for school shootings like they did back in the day. Don't put this on rappers, but the parental figures themselves. In the youths mind they are going like, if my parents don't care why should I. Other than that I agree with you @Emperor_ReinScarf. Just wanted to say this before I leave for work.
P.S. before the music is released they have a parental advisory tag on the front of it. What I'm basically saying is the parents need to take responsibility. It's NOT the Rapper's job to raise YOUR kids that's yours.
smh, one of the most common ideas that is almost always followed by "but"
your action of "contributing" automatically involves you. How is that different when it comes to music and hiphop
People "contributes" time, money, advice, car, rooms, and office space for different reasons, which makes them apart of that "thing" they contributed
For the last time, the argument of "parents need to take responsibility" in this type of discussion is similar to "but what about black on black crime," when talking about police violence. Pure deflection
when jay z said that line about jerseys and button ups amazing how quick brehs started buying button ups
when rappers started wearing snapbacks amazing how folks stopped with fitteds
when rappers started wearing dresses and tight jeans and ish amazing just amazing
amazing how words like thot, and phrases that originate in rap songs become a part of lingo
when rappers mention ciroq, chardonnay etc. nikkaz start buying
but nah violence and other filth that is in many rap songs have no effect
it has an effect on fashion, on what you drink, what you say, what shoes you will buy, but oh thats just it.
when rappers started wearing snapbacks amazing how folks stopped with fitteds
when rappers started wearing dresses and tight jeans and ish amazing just amazing
amazing how words like thot, and phrases that originate in rap songs become a part of lingo
when rappers mention ciroq, chardonnay etc. nikkaz start buying
but nah violence and other filth that is in many rap songs have no effect
it has an effect on fashion, on what you drink, what you say, what shoes you will buy, but oh thats just it.