Your Thoughts On This Hip Hop Thread From Another Site

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Some shyt it said:
It has even gotten to the point where hip hop has been split into two categories: “fake” and “real”. "Fake hip hop" is rap primarily concerned with talking about how much money you have, what type of car you drive, how many females you had intercourse with last night and other trivial occurrences. "Real hip hop" encapsulates the true essence of hip hop culture, untarnished by impurities such as rapacious record labels and vapid, materialistic subject matter. This is a false dichotomy, and the people who adhere to it are mostly fans who vehemently oppose mainstream rap music. They contend that real hip hop is embodied by underground/alternative or independent artists who are not contributing to the wholesale destruction of a culture.

Also, the internet has been a breeding ground for producing a plethora of pastiches and carbon copies of extant rappers, with no hint of creativity or originality. Becoming a rapper, albeit not necessarily famous, is relatively easy now in this day and age due to technology. One can simply upload a video onto YouTube, wisely advertise their song via word of mouth, and voilà, in no time their views will skyrocket. This constant influx of internet rappers is inundating hip hop with more rappers than it needs. Not only has technology inhibited hip hop to an extent, the commercialization of hip hop music has put revenue and sales ahead of the advancement of this genre - catering to the consumer is the industry’s raison d’être.

This genre has been transformed into, what Michael Eric Dyson refers to as a commodity fetish! The primary function of rap is to sell music, but its secondary function is also remarkably effective at selling other products. For instance, in many rap videos, brand name alcoholic beverages, the most expensive automobiles, the latest outfits and other hot commodities are conspicuously shown in order to attract attention to what is popular. If a rapper is adorned in the latest outfits and other miscellaneous items, the viewer may start to confuse his/her wants with his/her needs. Popular figureheads such as Lil’ Wayne, Jay-Z, Eminem, Drake, Nicki Minaj, and Gucci Mane have gained notoriety through BET, MTV, VH1, the radio and other mass media outlets. These aforementioned figureheads are marketable enough to promote superficiality, materialism and all things negative.

The transition from songs about the hardships in poverty-stricken areas (while not glorifying this stigma) to lyrics embellished with the lavish lifestyles of multi-millionaires directly shows the presence of ulterior motives. In turn, this reinforces stereotypes about minorities and b*stardizes a subculture, while successfully misleading the impressionable and malleable minds of the youth. This blatantly obvious corruption, although not solely responsible, can cause juvenile behavior which might possibly lead to incarceration or dysfunctional lives.
 

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I've read some threads on above top secret my criticisms of the website is that
it runs amok with a bunch of pseudo intellectual loons who'll denounce anything
and anyone who doesn't agree with them and their fantastical world view devoid of any
fvcking evidence.

If you don't believe me please look up their threads on Michio Kaku and Neil Degrasse Tyson involving aliens.



With that said !
That thread is filled the typical musings of some forum slumming nitwit whose "high intelligence" makes it difficult for him to understand a culture he obviously doesn't partake in.

I mean I enjoy Blackalicious, Saul Williams (who I bring up often...) and Busdriver amongst other alternative Hip Hop artists just as much as the next guy but his quite blatant bashing of dudes like Camron, Eminem and Jay-Z is BULLshyt and is filled with criminal generalizations and a lack of any real critique.

I don't even wanna touch the "Herp Derp Rap hypnotizes the youth" nonsense, seems this criticism always comes with a blatant fvcking disregard for the problem these kids face growing up in lower income areas or the influence of peers.

And :pacspit: @ That Lame "ModernAcademia" posting "Words I never said" as an example of a good "Hip Hop" song
FVCK EM
 

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If you don't believe me please look up their threads on Michio Kaku and Neil Degrasse Tyson involving aliens.



What if you took 3 or 5 members on this site and generalized and said the entire Coli forum was like that?

That website is massive
I'm not a member but it's massive

Total Posts: 15,314,822
Total Topics: 889,790
Total Members: 273,911


Almost 300k members
It's absurd to even take 100 members of that site and generalize with 300k members
Even let's say 50k members assuming that 70% of them are inactive
You are still making a ridiculous statement
 

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that nikka ain't even get Gucci's lyrics right :heh:

but :king: for having Gucci mentioned alongside Em and Jigga
 

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What if you took 3 or 5 members on this site and generalized and said the entire Coli forum was like that?

That website is massive
I'm not a member but it's massive

Total Posts: 15,314,822
Total Topics: 889,790
Total Members: 273,911


Almost 300k members
It's absurd to even take 100 members of that site and generalize with 300k members
Even let's say 50k members assuming that 70% of them are inactive
You are still making a ridiculous statement


I've read a number of threads on ATS and there is a large percentage
of the community that is clearly into conspiracy theory, pretty easy to find
threads of people falling for Ancient Aliens bullocks and the like.

Anyways the thread is bullsh1t you've got clowns like this guy
ArtofWill said:
Aesop Rock, Eyedea and Abilities, The Jokerr (not to be confused with Tha Joker, that god-awful... you know what, I should stop there), Prince Ea, Pharoahe Monch, Atmosphere, Astronautalis, and (hed) P.E. (I know, technically not considered hip-hop, but they have enough of it for me to place it in this category) are among the most intelligent and thought provoking artists of ANY category/genre. For someone to place all rap/hip-hop into the first category is blatantly ignorant, in my opinion.

insinuating this is "Real Hip Hop"


But somehow this isn't :
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BCsxQg3NE4]Jay-Z - Dead Presidents [HQ/Explicit] - YouTube[/ame]

Again FVCK EM
 
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Well, I can agree with the OP (On that other site), rap does have it's good and bad, and lately the bad has overshadowed the good.

There are a couple of morons over there, but hey, there are a couple of morons over here and on any forum...
 
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