YouTube and the Let's Play copyright fiasco

[winb83]

This whole thing is disgusting. The way game publishers are using YouTube to bully average joe game players on the site is sad. I wish someone would have the balls to fight back against these copyright claims and go to court but most of the people the publishers bully are just regular people either afraid to fight that battle or lacking the required resources to do it.

The publishers don't want this to go to court because theoretically they could lose and let's plays could be backed in court as fair use. As it stands now if the publisher says hey that's my content YouTube rolls over and let's them have their way with it. That's what publishers want anyway so why would they go to court and run the risk of losing it? When YouTube lets them have their way the uploaders just drop it and take the L.

Honestly who even watches full playthroughs of games on YouTube? Probably people who already bought the game or people who have no plans on buying it.

 

[Chill]

I watch playthroughs

 

[iamstr8fire]

This whole thing is disgusting. The way game publishers are using YouTube to bully average joe game players on the site is sad. I wish someone would have the balls to fight back against these copyright claims and go to court but most of the people the publishers bully are just regular people either afraid to fight that battle or lacking the required resources to do it.

The publishers don't want this to go to court because theoretically they could lose and let's plays could be backed in court as fair use. As it stands now if the publisher says hey that's my content YouTube rolls over and let's them have their way with it. That's what publishers want anyway so why would they go to court and run the risk of losing it? When YouTube lets them have their way the uploaders just drop it and take the L.

Honestly who even watches full playthroughs of games on YouTube? Probably people who already bought the game or people who have no plans on buying it.

I've watched it for games that I've been on the fence for. I'd watch like 25% of a playthrough and make a purchasing decision from there.

After reading up on this I can already tell whats going to happen. The people with huge followings will be fine (relatively). They will negotiate a pay split and be good to go. The smaller guys are going to get crushed tho .

 

[Why-Fi]

shameful because it kills the whole spirit of how we spend our time now. we don't just consume any more we collaborate and share

if it continues, theres going to be something else that fills that gap (probably already is) and youtube will go the way of myspace

 

[Why-Fi]

ubisoft

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/11/is-nintendo-claiming-copyright-on-youtube-videos-again

 

[KushSkywalker]

it's like free advertisement. If anything it should help sales of good games. I dont get the response by companies.

just old suit and ties disconnected from reality.

remember when everyone freaked out about Napster?

meanwhile instead of freaking out Apple created a marketplace online to counter it, and have made billions off it

smarten up game companies

 

[Audible101]

You take content from the copyright holder, make a video, upload it to youtube then haul in the ad money. Yet when copyright holder wants a cut you put on a down and gloom show like it is the fukking dark ages

It is only fair for the content creator to get a cut. Would you like it if i took your videos edited them and monetized them without giving you a cut?

 

[Why-Fi]

You take content from the copyright holder, make a video, upload it to youtube then haul in the ad money. Yet when copyright holder wants a cut you put on a down and gloom show like it is the fukking dark ages

It is only fair for the content creator to get a cut. Would you like it if i took your videos edited them and monetized them without giving you a cut?

what else can people cover? revenue or no revenue, its channels like these that really got youtube to where it is in the first place.

 

[Audible101]

what else can people cover? revenue or no revenue, its channels like these that really got youtube to where it is in the first place.

Im not saying stop doing them i'm all for them. If you going to monetize them then there needs to be some sort of system where publisher you and youtube share that money. If you small time don't monetize your videos. If publishers still flag that then them..BUUTT if you do monetize and bring in decent money then publishers should also get a cut.

 

[KushSkywalker]

You take content from the copyright holder, make a video, upload it to youtube then haul in the ad money. Yet when copyright holder wants a cut you put on a down and gloom show like it is the fukking dark ages

It is only fair for the content creator to get a cut. Would you like it if i took your videos edited them and monetized them without giving you a cut?

so why don't they put strikes on reviewers for having footage in the review?

where do you draw the line?

also they are not editing their videos, these are interactive media, and they are simply capturing there interaction. Not saying you're wrong, just saying I think it's a little greyer than you're leading to

Edit: nvm, I agree with you post above about sharing monetization

 

[Audible101]

so why don't they put strikes on reviewers for having footage in the review?

where do you draw the line?

also they re not editing their videos, these are interactive media, and they are simply capturing there interaction. Not saying you're wrong, just saying I think it's a little greyer than you're leading to

Edit: nvm, I agree with you post above about sharing monetization

Im not too familiar with USA law but isn't there something about criticizing something is considered fair use or something.

 

[ScoopNScore]

This whole thing is disgusting. The way game publishers are using YouTube to bully average joe game players on the site is sad. I wish someone would have the balls to fight back against these copyright claims and go to court but most of the people the publishers bully are just regular people either afraid to fight that battle or lacking the required resources to do it.

The publishers don't want this to go to court because theoretically they could lose and let's plays could be backed in court as fair use. As it stands now if the publisher says hey that's my content YouTube rolls over and let's them have their way with it. That's what publishers want anyway so why would they go to court and run the risk of losing it? When YouTube lets them have their way the uploaders just drop it and take the L.

Honestly who even watches full playthroughs of games on YouTube? Probably people who already bought the game or people who have no plans on buying it.

Some people add commentary or joke about the game as they play, others make speedruns or no damage runs, and there are those that make you go when they find something hidden or something you didn't discover was in the game.

But honestly, I hate when these websites get gassed up n start getting draconian, from simple website changes, to getting bullied into adding policy at the users' and contributers' expense.

 

[Champion]

You take content from the copyright holder, make a video, upload it to youtube then haul in the ad money. Yet when copyright holder wants a cut you put on a down and gloom show like it is the fukking dark ages

It is only fair for the content creator to get a cut. Would you like it if i took your videos edited them and monetized them without giving you a cut?

Exactly.
People are trying really hard to defend this but I don't understand why. They're making a profit off of another company's product without any type of license or agreement.

@winb83 The thing is, they can sue. Imo they would probably end up getting some cash out of it due to the company not wanting negative press associated with this despite having every reason to stop this.

 

[Champion]

it's like free advertisement. If anything it should help sales of good games. I dont get the response by companies.

just old suit and ties disconnected from reality.

remember when everyone freaked out about Napster?

meanwhile instead of freaking out Apple created a marketplace online to counter it, and have made billions off it

smarten up game companies

What free advertisement? Like others have said, if you are looking up these videos then you more than likely have already purchased the product.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

This whole thing is disgusting. The way game publishers are using YouTube to bully average joe game players on the site is sad. I wish someone would have the balls to fight back against these copyright claims and go to court but most of the people the publishers bully are just regular people either afraid to fight that battle or lacking the required resources to do it.

The publishers don't want this to go to court because theoretically they could lose and let's plays could be backed in court as fair use. As it stands now if the publisher says hey that's my content YouTube rolls over and let's them have their way with it. That's what publishers want anyway so why would they go to court and run the risk of losing it? When YouTube lets them have their way the uploaders just drop it and take the L.

Honestly who even watches full playthroughs of games on YouTube? Probably people who already bought the game or people who have no plans on buying it.

I watch speedruns of classic games as long as it isnt that ANNOYING nerd crew from summer/awesome games done quick, and i watched my first full lets play in SM3DW thepast week or so