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[JMurder]

U nikkas suck at building a team Jesus Christ

The team will never improve with y’all logic y’all scared to pay players market value and won’t add talent because it won’t make a difference

Nikka adding top flight shooting to the leagues worst shooting team whose most talented players are slashing bully ballers, a pass first non floor spacing PG, and a rim runner makes a big difference

No, the team will improve by making smart decisions. You just advocating for signing ANY talent at ANY figure is stupidity. The end goal is to win a ring, not spin the wheel. You out here praising Atlanta who's going to be spinning the hamster wheel for years because Trae Young ain't bringing a ring to ATL and they signing dudes to deals that they can't use to bring another star in.

But maybe I'm bugging. Yes, ATL did a very good job in improving their roster. They most likely will be a playoff team nabbing that 7th or 8th spot. Please explain to me how a starting lineup of:
Trae
Bogie
Cam
John Collins
Capela

is gonna fair against Philly, Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Toronto, and Miami over the next four years? Do you believe the addition of Rondo and Gallo is moving the needle three or four years from now?

 

[JMurder]

Can easily see them ahead of Orlando and even the Pacers

And you do realize Trae Young is 22 years old right? There’s nothing wrong with him losing in the first round or being a lower seed nikka it’s playoff experience. It’s winning more games than you lose in a season. It’s playing competitive basketball.

U think this is a championship or bust season or some shyt

This is how you build a foundation they’ve built a deep team.

Uhhhh....that would be 7th seed

Yeah...Trae is 22....unless you see him turning into Steph/AI, what do you think his ceiling is gonna be? Who is the foundation of this team outside of Trae who is probably not even suited to be a number 2 on a championship level squad?

Edit: For Knicks comparisons sake...it looks like ATL made the same type moves we made when trying to make a playoff run with Melo....except Trae ain't Melo

 

[Peter Popoff]

Maybe I saw a different game but wasn't Trae Young balling towards the end of last season?

Also, you might be bugging if you don't think him, Bogie and Capela won't ball out in the east. Cam Reddish sucked most of last season but he had some good games where he put up 20 pts. Uhh.....bruh Atlanta doesn't suck.

 

[JMurder]

Maybe I saw a different game but wasn't Trae Young balling towards the end of last season?

Also, you might be bugging if you don't think him, Bogie and Capela won't ball out in the east. Cam Reddish sucked most of last season but he had some good games where he put up 20 pts. Uhh.....bruh Atlanta doesn't suck.

That's not the point. The East is top heavy and unless you have a good amount of youth and smart cap friendly deals, your chances of cracking into that top 5-6 range is shot for the next 2 or 3 years.

After sitting back with this...I just don't see why the path the Hawks took is the one the Knicks should've taken. The Hawks have a young guy in Trae Young who is clearly better than everyone the Knicks have, and so, yes the Hawks doing what they did makes sense. It would not have made sense for the Knicks to do the same thing because we don't have a Trae Young (yet)

 

[Peter Popoff]

That's not the point. The East is top heavy and unless you have a good amount of youth and smart cap friendly deals, your chances of cracking into that top 5-6 range is shot for the next 2 or 3 years.

After sitting back with this...I just don't see why the path the Hawks took is the one the Knicks should've taken. The Hawks have a young guy in Trae Young who is clearly better than everyone the Knicks have, and so, yes the Hawks doing what they did makes sense. It would not have made sense for the Knicks to do the same thing because we don't have a Trae Young (yet)

Ehh...if Mitch and Toppin as well as RJ do good this season, they're heading in the same direction.

This should be the circa of all or nothing where stars are made or broken. It's depends on the allocated minutes of each player.

Training camp starts tomorrow so we'll start to hear more rumblings.

 

[ISO]

No, the team will improve by making smart decisions. You just advocating for signing ANY talent at ANY figure is stupidity. The end goal is to win a ring, not spin the wheel. You out here praising Atlanta who's going to be spinning the hamster wheel for years because Trae Young ain't bringing a ring to ATL and they signing dudes to deals that they can't use to bring another star in.

But maybe I'm bugging. Yes, ATL did a very good job in improving their roster. They most likely will be a playoff team nabbing that 7th or 8th spot. Please explain to me how a starting lineup of:
Trae
Bogie
Cam
John Collins
Capela

is gonna fair against Philly, Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Toronto, and Miami over the next four years? Do you believe the addition of Rondo and Gallo is moving the needle three or four years from now?

Nobody is advocating for signing ANY talent at ANY figure

I advocated for trading Julius, bringing in a veteran PG (FVV, Rondo, Dragic, CP3) and shooters (Bogie, Bertans, Harris, Gallo) at market value not any figure breh, market value like I said it pages ago if you want good players you have to pay for good players. In the best interest of our young players it would have been beneficial to make those moves to improve the floor spacing and guard play of the team and clear up positional logjams.

Atlanta did not sign ANY talent at ANY figure. They patched up weaknesses on their roster and signed guys at market value.

Last season they ranked 30th in 3PT% so what they'd do? They brought in three guys who shot 40% from 3 last season in Bogie, Gallo, and Snell.

Last season they lacked a back-up veteran PG to run the show when Trae sits so what they'd do? They brought in Rondo fresh off a championship.

Last season they lacked interior defense so what they'd do? They traded for Capela and drafted Okongwu.

Last season they lacked someone who could hide Trae on defense so what they'd do? They brought in Kris Dunn, one of the best guard defenders in the game.

U have low confidence in Trae Young. The Hawks front office sees him as their franchise player. They see a 30/9 guy last season who was an All-Star. They see a new age hybrid of Steph and Nash. They don't think their some 7th or 8th seed and they don't think they can't contend for a championship eventually. That's what you think. Reddish, Huerter, and Hunter will all still play just in reduced roles. Reddish especially is not even ready to play big minutes. This season is also 72 games and will have extra load management and injuries so it's good they deep.

They would like to field a competitive basketball team and start winning games and getting playoff experience. No team is going from the lottery to a championship you have to make moves. Atlanta instantly becomes more attractive as a playoff team for big free agents and a lot of guys on their team are tradeable. They have amassed enough young talent to trade and they have signed attractive veterans contenders would want.

Also, those teams you mentioned in the East it's uncertain with all of them. The East will look different in 5 years. Giannis may not be in Milwaukee. The Embiid/Simmons thing may be no longer. KD and Kyrie could end up being a disaster. Lowry isn't getting any younger in Toronto. Hawks don't need to win this year or next. They need to win games and compete and get their ass kicked in the playoffs a few times and learn from it and continue making moves every year to improve.

 

[ISO]

Edit: For Knicks comparisons sake...it looks like ATL made the same type moves we made when trying to make a playoff run with Melo....except Trae ain't Melo

Are you comparing what Atlanta did to the Knicks bringing in a washed Noah, post-ACL tear Rose, and Courtney Lee?

And I would say all 30 NBA general managers disagree with you Young is one of the best offensive players in the game.

 

[ISO]

That's not the point. The East is top heavy and unless you have a good amount of youth and smart cap friendly deals, your chances of cracking into that top 5-6 range is shot for the next 2 or 3 years.

After sitting back with this...I just don't see why the path the Hawks took is the one the Knicks should've taken. The Hawks have a young guy in Trae Young who is clearly better than everyone the Knicks have, and so, yes the Hawks doing what they did makes sense. It would not have made sense for the Knicks to do the same thing because we don't have a Trae Young (yet)

It would make sense.

Barrett is better than what he's shown and Toppin in the right situation really could be a RoY player. If we brought in one of those guards and some of those shooters I mentioned they would be in a much better situation to produce. R.J. wasn't that good last year because of poor spacing and lack of touches and quality teammates, he's better than what he's shown.

I think if he played on a team like the Wiz last season that went all in offensively he would have been looked at as one of the dope wings who got next.

 

[Wargames]

Why are we discussing ways this years roster ain’t trash...... or could not have been trash...... when the FO basically paid trash prices on everybody?



Let’s just hope all the youth get through the season healthy. That’s my expectation for this team..... they stay healthy.

I’m going to start posting NCAA highlights because that’s the hope we need.

 

[ISO]

You just advocating for signing ANY talent at ANY figure is stupidity.

shys funny this what Perry and Mills did last year for no rhyme or reason ignoring fit and out of desperation brought in Julius Randle out the blue and outbid themselves to get him

 

[Wargames]

So I like the idea of BJ Boston next to RJ. He has that 1A personality that could let RJ be 1B. He’s not as Good as Cade or Suggs but he should be a legit top 3-7 candidate in the draft.

frank off the bench guard ala Marcus smart, Obi as the PF....

I would say the Knicks go hard after Lonzo cause he could lead that squad

 

[ISO]

Atlanta is actually in play to acquire Giannis

They have both young and veteran assets to make a trade and he would probably want to play with Trae if you want to talk about bringing a star in

 

[Ty-Fife]

The main thing I'm looking forward to is seeing what Mitch and Obi looks like after working with Kenny and what RJ and our other young wings look like after working with Bryant. That's literally it.

If Kenny has Obi looking like one of the Allstar Kentucky bigs....

And Bryant have RJ looking like a bigger/stronger Jazz Hayward with better court vision...

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Atlanta is actually in play to acquire Giannis

They have both young and veteran assets to make a trade and he would probably want to play with Trae if you want to talk about bringing a star in

You think giannis gonna leave a team with budenholzer as head coach just because Trae is out in Atlanta?

the pieces that are around him in Milwaukee are much better than what he would get in Atlanta. What’s your fascination with Atlanta lately? They def upgraded but you’re making them out to be a dark horse for the ECF. @FreshFromATL man we got someone in here that loves what y’all doing out there. I think he wants to be traded to #Hawkset....... you got anything good in return?

 

[seemorecizzy]

That's not the point. The East is top heavy and unless you have a good amount of youth and smart cap friendly deals, your chances of cracking into that top 5-6 range is shot for the next 2 or 3 years.

After sitting back with this...I just don't see why the path the Hawks took is the one the Knicks should've taken. The Hawks have a young guy in Trae Young who is clearly better than everyone the Knicks have, and so, yes the Hawks doing what they did makes sense. It would not have made sense for the Knicks to do the same thing because we don't have a Trae Young (yet)

trae young doesnt need to be a top 5 seed
hes' just a kid and isnt on a super team
but its important that he doesnt lose every season or feel like he doesnt have help.

altanta doesnt want him to adapt to a losing environment. i salute them