Zach LaVine's no step vertical is only 33.5 inches

[godkiller]

Meanwhile Toby Gerhart's no step vertical is 38 inches (not special among NFL players). If Gerhart did a running vertical, in all likelihood he would jump higher than LaVine's 41.5 running vertical. Plenty of NFL players would if they were tested. There are many NFL brehs with higher no step verticals than LaVine's 41.5 running max. Workout warrior TEs with anything over 33.5 no step are basically candidates to jump higher than LaVine. There are 6'5-6'6 TEs who put up higher than 33.5 no step vert every year. Colt Lyerla put up 39 inches no step. He definitely has a higher than 41.5 max vert. Marcel Jensen is 6'6 and put up 35 inches no step. This is just to put the LaVine worship into perspective.

Discuss.

 

[42 Monks]

Meanwhile Toby Gerhart's no step vertical is 38 inches (not special among NFL players). Gerhart would jump higher than LaVine's 41.5 running vertical. Plenty of NFL players would if they were tested. There are many brehs with higher no step verticals than LaVine's 41.5 max. This is just to put the LaVine worship into perspective.

Discuss.

Football players don't gather often if at all and rarely will they ever create the same movements as a basketball player at higher levels. Not to say one is better than the other or anything like that, but citing gathered jump statistics in football is around the same as looking for bench press numbers for basketball.

A football players' plant & go is drastically different from a basketball players at just about every detailed level and what each plan to accomplish with said movement is different as well. That's why each type of measurement is weighted differently.

 

[godkiller]

Football players don't gather often if at all and rarely will they ever create the same movements as a basketball player at higher levels. Not to say one is better than the other or anything like that, but citing gathered jump statistics in football is around the same as looking for bench press numbers for basketball.

A football players' plant & go is drastically different from a basketball players at just about every detailed level and what each plan to accomplish with said movement is different as well. That's why each type of measurement is weighted differently.

From the 2014 draft alone, there are unathletic (by NFL standards), chunky TEs jumping higher than basketball players who have spent their entire lives practicing vertical leaps and technique. Basketball lost. Basketball players jump higher than virtually every other sport though. Take solace in that fact.

 

[Majestic Pape]

Discuss what? What is even the point of this thread?

 

[Marvel]

Football players do a lot of back squats, deadlifts and leg presses which helps increase explosiveness. That is why so many of them have crazy verticals for their size. Go to any major college during the summer time and you see football players jumping out the gym when they play bball.

 

[triplehate]

Football players do a lot of back squats, deadlifts and leg presses which helps increase explosiveness. That is why so many of them have crazy verticals for their size. Go to any major college during the summer time and you see football players jumping out the gym when they play bball.

Accurate as fukk. Vonta Leach (fullback) was in my PE class in college. Drop step dunks,alleys, windmills.

You see him on the football field he looks clunky

 

[42 Monks]

From the 2014 draft alone, there are unathletic (by NFL standards), chunky TEs jumping higher than basketball players who have spent their entire lives practicing vertical leaps and technique. Basketball lost. Basketball players jump higher than virtually every other sport though. Take solace in that fact.

They're never in position to put that on display in football because it's played fundamentally different. In football, players are trained to contain their power low and maintain constant strength while holding a solid centers of gravity. Not doing so is going to get you seriously injured before you're even out of Varsity. Basketball is maintaining constant shytfyness and is all about being to get higher (or high enough), faster than your opposition. Just because you're elite at one doesn't mean you're elite at another. Just look at Julius Peppers - he was one of the most explosive guys to throw on pads, but in basketball he was just another really strong PF.

These are different types of strength.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Accurate as fukk. Vonta Leach (fullback) was in my PE class in college. Drop step dunks,alleys, windmills.

You see him on the football field he looks clunky

U took PE in college?

 

[triplehate]

U took PE in college?

You have to have a health/pe credit.
If you pass the swim test you can enroll in any of the PE classes, I took basketball.

If you don't pass the swim test, you get beginning swimming automatically.

 

[killacal]

Watching the nfl combine and seeing dudes get 40in standing verts

 

[Funk Flex]

 

[godkiller]

Basketball players are all in tip top shape. They are near their athletic max. Few players are going to go from 30 to 40 inches. There are dudes at the gym who have 30+ inch verticals. The average body fat for incoming NBA draft players is 10% or below (near and equivalent to NFL players), and they train for the vertical jump, which means they're in elite athlete shape and have extra training, moreso in both aspects than most all gym brehs.

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

8 foot rim

 

[godkiller]

Two guys with the same measurables can look completely different in a game of basketball depending on how skilled they are.