Active Shooter In San Bernardino California?

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Da King said:
Here is the fact: what these radical Islamist will do will make all these cac shootings seem like child play, take a look at middle east and Paris if you don't know what's good, but you still on that bullshyt PC "but but media not calling other shyt terrorist attack" :scust:
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What they did in Paris was already done here 14 years ago in spades so what's your point? You really think these cac militia groups out there aren't armed to teeth and capable of blowing shyt up? I seem to recall a government building being blown to shyt in Oklahoma City in '95 by two white dudes, but go ahead and think radical Islamists are the only group we should worry about.
 
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jackswstd said:
What they did in Paris was already done here 14 years ago in spades so what's your point? You really think these cac militia groups out there aren't armed to teeth and capable of blowing shyt up? I seem to recall a government building being blown to shyt in Oklahoma City in '95 by two white dudes, but go ahead and think radical Islamists are the only group we should worry about.
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I'm not caping for these cacs, but these Islamist will take it to another level
 
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jackswstd said:
What they did in Paris was already done here 14 years ago in spades so what's your point? You really think these cac militia groups out there aren't armed to teeth and capable of blowing shyt up? I seem to recall a government building being blown to shyt in Oklahoma City in '95 by two white dudes, but go ahead and think radical Islamists are the only group we should worry about.
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Not to mention that Western Europe had far more terrorism deaths in the 1970s and 1980s than they do now, and it was pretty much all White people pulling that shyt back then. The total deaths due to terrorism in that era added up to several Paris's a year, every year.

And it's not like there aren't 13,000 murders a year in this country already.
 
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ALonelyDad said:
Nicholas Thalasinos (@LeastServant) on Twitter this guy was the guy who got in an argument with the shooter over islam two weeks ago, his twitter profile :mjpls:

I am thinking this guy got the shooter triggered and the shooter decided to plan that shyt, he was one of the guys who died too.
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Yeah, it's only a theory at this point, but it seems like this guy had some run-ins with the shooter, and they definitely got heated at times.

Also, there keeps being talk of an "argument" that caused the shooter to leave the party before he came back and did the shooting, but no one seems to want to say anything about what they argument was about.

I think that any theory of motives has to take the following into account:

1) This dude was ready to pull off this shyt. It might not have been planned for that particular time, but he was ready to do something.

2) He was able to convince his wife to go along with it.

3) He purposely targeted his own coworkers, not any other group.

4) He doesn't seem to have done it in any group's name, and no one else seems to have taken credit for it.



My guess is that in the end, there are definitely mixed motives, like Obama said. He didn't like someone at work or his coworkers in general, somebody or something in his life was getting him heated somehow, but he also had some sort of bigger-picture input that helped convince him to take this particular route and get his wife to co-sign in it all.
 
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jackswstd said:
Reading his tweets and it sounds like he was on an extremist tip himself.
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he just sounds like those typical right wing cacs..he has a lot of tweets hating obama too and dude pretty much blamed planned parenthood for what happened last week..:skip:Him being a jew too, he probably gave that muslim shooter a lot of shyt daily
 
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The Dankster said:
Yeah, it's only a theory at this point, but it seems like this guy had some run-ins with the shooter, and they definitely got heated at times.

Also, there keeps being talk of an "argument" that caused the shooter to leave the party before he came back and did the shooting, but no one seems to want to say anything about what they argument was about.

I think that any theory of motives has to take the following into account:

1) This dude was ready to pull off this shyt. It might not have been planned for that particular time, but he was ready to do something.

2) He was able to convince his wife to go along with it.

3) He purposely targeted his own coworkers, not any other group.

4) He doesn't seem to have done it in any group's name, and no one else seems to have taken credit for it.



My guess is that in the end, there are definitely mixed motives, like Obama said. He didn't like someone at work or his coworkers in general, somebody or something in his life was getting him heated somehow, but he also had some sort of bigger-picture input that helped convince him to take this particular route and get his wife to co-sign in it all.
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That guy I linked, there is a story how the shooter and him got into a heated argument two weeks ago. 1. I agree this shyt was pre-planned, but it can most likely be for this guy since they got into an argument two weeks ago.. and seeing this guys twitter, you know it wasn't the first time they argued. Usually with terrorists group, they yell the name and they pretty much claim responsibility, this guy actually destroyed everything he had and hid it.
 
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Hamza B. said:
Most Americans have no idea of the culture of the mosque in America. I've been to pretty much every type of Sunni masjid, from the typical big Islamic Centers that have people from all over the world to the local storefront hood masjid that's like 50/50 blacks and pakistanis, to predominately Somali mosques, and multi-cultural Salafi mosques, ect. And none of them…I mean none of them are on that Khariji/Takfiri/Extremist tip. The hardcore Salafi mosques are probably the harshest critics of terrorism, even offering full on scholarly conferences denouncing AQ/ISIS and the like…complete with proofs from the Qur'an and Sunnah.

We have groups from high schools and college religion classes, even local churches visit the mosque all the time. They are treated like guests, and they come to see for themselves. Anyone that comes in peace to see what it's all about are treated with respect and welcomed. This is the norm, not the exception. Islam is not some secret society with some shadowy figure at the top. The truth is for all who are willing to listen and educate themselves. If some idiot came in trying to talk some pro-terrorist bs they would be asked to leave and have the FBI called on them. There have been cases of FBI agents going into mosques to "recruit" people, only to have themselves reported to the FBI. Practicing, knowledgable, sincere Muslims aren't gonna be duped by these extremist bozos.

The people that carry out these attacks or fly over to join ISIS are usually losers with all kinds of personal problems that get sucked into the online propaganda. They aren't getting this stuff from the true Muslim scholars or the mosque. When I hear morons like Trump talk about closing down mosques, I'm like "Just come visit us and see for yourself. We got nothing to hide over here." We'd even let that scumbag in as long as he came in peace and was respectful.

I get irked when I hear people say that ISIS has an extreme interpretation of Islam. Their ideology doesn't even warrant being called an "interpretation", because that word denotes some kind of scholarly rigor. They have none and they have no learned Muslim scholars amongst them. They are literally throwing things to the wall to see what sticks. As far as I can tell, they don't care about following traditional Islamic codes of ethics or rules of engagement. They just think killing = jihad, and seem to be going for the greatest shock value. I won't be surprised if I hear that they start practicing cannibalism, cuz that's the direction they seem to be going.
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Most people are too stupid to get beyond the thinking that a mosque is just a training facility for suicide bombers, and wacked out killers. But, this is america, where most people are fukking retarded and just go with whatever they see or hear without actually thinking or researching.
 
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I am from San Diego, and there is large muslim population, theres like 17 mosques here.. Somali, Nigerian, Ethiopan, and middle eastern, Saudi's as well...I have met a of cool, humble, hard working and generally good people who are muslim, mostly guys that drive cabs or uber, and I've become cool with a few.....They are genuinely offended are repulsed by the violence committed in the name of their religion, and also sincerely confused as to what is happening. And I feel for them, they aren't evil, they aren;t anything like that....I don't like Islam for it's treatment of women, but I dislike almost every religion for similar reasons.. they should not be demonized by the ignorant masses of our country....the kind of hatred and bigotry the Trumps and Cruz's are selling is dangerous and unforgivable.
 
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jadillac said:
Maybe. But why aren't they running around Black neighborhoods.? Or why aren't they in Nigeria or Kenya etc? They could easily go to black areas and kill.

The reality is, if they kill Black ppl its generally bc were in the way of their attack.

But Black ppl aren't the ones who have gone to their country stealing oil and other resources and lying/screwing over their ancestors over the past 100 years.

Don't believe this bs rhetoric about how "this is an attack on all Americans and our freedoms".

Minorities are only "real Americans " when stuff like this happens.
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:wtf: are you serious? I guess you miss the weekly attacks in african countries or the kidnapping, enslavement and rape of young nigerian girls?
 
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