Ayatrollah Khamanei getting at the U. S. about racism on twitter :lupe:
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Ether....Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Yes, but also it's
ing. He doesn't really care about black people in America. It's propaganda. Sort of like it's propaganda when our government was pretending they care about "liberating" Iraqis.
Yes, but also it's
Hasn't China done shyt like this before too?
I love it when America's bigotry is on the world stage for all to see.
Whataboutism
Come again, Comrade?
Jan 31st 2008 | Online extra
It is not a bad tactic. Every criticism needs to be put in a historical and geographical context. A country that has solved most of its horrible problems deserves praise, not to be lambasted for those that remain. Similarly, behaviour that may be imperfect by international standards can be quite good for a particular neighbourhood.
But it can be overdone—and in the case of Soviet propagandists, it was, and gave rise to subversive jokes For example: A caller to a radio program asks, “What is the average wage of an American manual worker?” A long pause ensues. Then the answer comes: “U nich negrov linchuyut” (“Over there they lynch Negroes”)—a phrase that, by the time of the Soviet collapse, had become a synecdoche for Soviet propaganda as a whole.
Bagehot: In the red cornerJan 24th 2008
- Eastern Europe, America and Russia: PipedreamsJan 24th 2008
- Russia and Britain: A love-hate relationshipJan 19th 2008
- Europe.view: Tsar struckJan 3rd 2008
Whataboutism seemed to have died a natural death at the end of the cold war. But now it seems to be making a comeback. Your columnist took part in a live television conversation with some Russian colleagues last week, supposedly to discuss the bad image of Russia in the British press. It would be possible to make some quite reasonable points from the Russian side: is the media reaction to the Kremlin's treatment of the British Council selective or disproportionate? Are there angles to this story that nobody is exploring that might put Britain's stance in a different light?
Instead, the viewers were treated to a lively display of whataboutism. How could the West criticise Russia for sabre-rattling, asked the eloquent Aleksei Pushkov, when America and its allies had not just rattled sabres, but actually used them in Iraq. And so on and so forth.
It would help if Russia had a word for whataboutism. Literally, it could be kaknaschyotism. A crisp remark about lynching also raises a laugh and makes the point.
But the bigger problem is finding a way to discuss Russia's problems in a way that does not immediately lead to a sterile argument reminiscent of the ponderous tirades of the 1980s.
One solution is to use points made by Russian leaders themselves. Guess who said this: “Russia is a country of legal nihilism at the level...that no European country can boast of…Corruption in the official structures has a huge scale”. That sounds as though it came from some opposition politician such as Garry Kasparov—the sort of marginal (or marginalised) figure that Russians often say gains far too much western attention. But the speaker was Dmitri Medvedev (pictured above), successor-designate to Vladimir Putin.
Another is for outsiders to show a bit more self-criticism. It is worth noting early on in the discussion some outrageous flaws in American (or British, or German, or French) foreign policy, as well as recent scandals involving corruption and abuse of power.
The most powerful western asset during the last cold war was not bigger nukes or higher living standards, but self-criticism. However bad western governments may be, they risk trouble eventually—from the media, the courts or the voters. That is not something that one can say with much confidence about Russia now.
Yes, but also it's
Strong statement like "He doesn't care about black people in America" without actual proof. Yet he took the time to post various scenarios and I haven't heard not one African leader speak on this nonsense.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Leave it it to you to stan a supreme cleric of a repressive theocracy.
Leave it it to you to stan a supreme cleric of a repressive theocracy.
Im not stanning anyone...Im addressing the issue. Where is your proof that he doesn't care? Since you can't provide it, reevaluate your comments to fit your point.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Khamanei is only using this incident as a poignant opportunity to rail against the US. The Russians and Chinese have used African American unrest as a launching point to attack the US too. Do you then assume the Chinese and Russians care about blacks too? The same Russians whose people and plutocrats normally attack blacks with racist caricatures and mockery out of nothing but hatred and enmity. Russia Today has highlighted the Ferguson issue like Khamanei is doing right now and damned the government for abusing African Ameicans. Do you assume the Russians are sincere in this belief?
The Iranians, Chinese and Russians are more anti-black than Americans, and would simply wipe out African Americans.
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I love uneducated people.
1. I guess you never heard of Afro-Iranians
2. Iranians are Persians, not Arabs.
3. U.S. has always thought about attacking Iran and has never thought twice about it. Your theory is clearly irrelevant.
Lesbianas, we all know Khamanei on his
shyt tho. I hope Kim Jong Un chimes in next. 
newworldafro
DeeperThanRapBiggerThanHH
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
1. Afro-Iranians are a small mixed population whom the majority Arabs (not just in Iran but in other Arab countries) oppress and reduce to menial labor (i.e. like slavery, right?) and begging. They have no representation and no rights.
2. The distinction between Persians and Arabs is in name only. If it wasn't obvious enough already, Iran is bordered on all sides on Arab nations; practice Arabicized religion and culture; have similar or the same beliefs as respects blacks.
3. China, Russia and Iran all castigate the US for civilr ights abuse. The Chinese wrote a long report on US human rights abuses, particularly against minorities. The Chinese do not care about blacks; they care about powerful opportunities to attack the US.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Lesbianas, we all know Khamanei on hisshyt tho.