Big brother 15... Official thread.. Watch how fast the brother gets evicted

[valet]

That shyt with Howard still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and it underscores something i've believed for a long time. When it comes to blk folks and Christianity, it's the source of our greatest strength and also greatest liablity/crutch.

He should have jumped on Candice's way of thinking when they was in there but instead he tried to pass it off like he just had to great of a temper to get into it. He an ole turn the other cheek, love thine enemy ass nikka...religion has him neutered to the point he wasn't even just speaking up and standing up for himself.



He don't hear you tho. He was definitely a floater and it's cool if other ppl recognize and respect that as gameplay but i don't. If you're not at least behind the scenes giving real input into what to do and who to manipulate and who to get out, etc...then i don't respect you just hiding behind bigger targets/stronger players and then acting like you've really been out there playing the game and making moves the whole way.

He took his marching orders from Amanda and Mccrae the majority of the game and got off their team when she finally went up, which he only did in part because he had already gotten into the Exterminators alliance before Amanda and Elissa came to an agreement to save Amanda from going to jury. I'll give Andy props for being smart enough to see a way to vote for Amanda to leave while framing Elissa thus not getting blood on his hands and turning Mccrae against him.

I think it was more his personality then "turn the other cheek". He was probably conditioned by the Southern parents to think that way. He was afraid of White people. Christianity doesn't teach you to fear man. That's just him. Just look at Black history and you'll see plenty of Black Christians not afraid to speak to Power.

 

[GreatestLaker]

He don't hear you tho. He was definitely a floater and it's cool if other ppl recognize and respect that as gameplay but i don't. If you're not at least behind the scenes giving real input into what to do and who to manipulate and who to get out, etc...then i don't respect you just hiding behind bigger targets/stronger players and then acting like you've really been out there playing the game and making moves the whole way..

But that's exactly what Andy was doing. He would go out out there gather as much info as possible, bring it back to who he was aligned with and then plan their attacks. Its true that Amanda was out there calling the shots, but a lot of it had to do with the info that Andy was feeding her. It was smart game play. Let the other people make themselves targets while you sit pretty in the background. The minute Andy turned on Amanda and McCrae she became powerless. That shows you how much she relied on Andy. Andy always knew where everyone's head were at. Everyone who was voted out thought they had Andy, when they didn't. How is that not manipulating people?

You just don't want to give Andy any kind of credit. @Big Blue and I saw what Andy was doing 6 weeks or so ago. That's how we knew he was the best player this season. No one ever talked about taking him out even though he was the biggest rat in the house.

He took his marching orders from Amanda and Mccrae the majority of the game and got off their team when she finally went up, which he only did in part because he had already gotten into the Exterminators alliance before Amanda and Elissa came to an agreement to save Amanda from going to jury. I'll give Andy props for being smart enough to see a way to vote for Amanda to leave while framing Elissa thus not getting blood on his hands and turning Mccrae against him.

He was turning on them before that. He was making plans to take down Amanda and McCrea 2 weeks before Amanda was even on the block. His plan was to make a move against them at the final 6, but once Judd got in the game he decided that was the right time to make his move. I remember at the time saying he was waiting to long, but it worked out perfectly for him.

Andy made an alliance with Aaryn, GM and Spencer the week Helen was on the block to take out Amanda and McCrae. Once Elissa won HOH he replaced Aaryn with Judd.

You got your facts all wrong.

 

[GreatestLaker]

I think it was more his personality then "turn the other cheek". He was probably conditioned by the Southern parents to think that way. He was afraid of White people. Christianity doesn't teach you to fear man. That's just him. Just look at Black history and you'll see plenty of Black Christians not afraid to speak to Power.

That could be it. I remember that dude in the house afraid to speak up for the simplest of things. He always going overboard sucking up to Aaryn, Kaitlin and Amanda. It was very frustrating to watch.

 

[street heat]

That could be it. I remember that dude in the house afraid to speak up for the simplest of things. He always going overboard sucking up to Aaryn, Kaitlin and Amanda. It was very frustrating to watch.

he wanted to fukk, thats why....

 

[Stack Money]

http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/20/aaryn-gries-big-brother-not-racist

At least she finally admittin she been makin racist comments her whole life.

@ GinaMarie pullin a Kaitlin on Twitter and lowkey takin pics wit as many people of color as she can, bytch pimpin out her hispanic relatives and the whole nine.

Amanda just tryna play it off talkin bout she has haters hopin if she don't mention her comments people will forget what she said.

Your opinions are horrible as usual.

Ginamarie is disgusting racist piece of shyt and Andy had the game locked up before the jury questions even began.

Helen even said that they should not bring Andy to the end because he had all the votes already.

GM isn't anywhere close to Andy's level as a player.

How many times I got to prove you wrong?

Andy damn near went out like Marcellas and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, thats why errbody in the audience had that collective gasp/sigh and went "aww" when he evicted Spencer cause it looked like he just cost himself the game. GM played better than Andy did she just couldn't articulate it and likely settled for second place, she coulda mentioned her HOH/Veto wins endurance ability and how she went all out in each competition by listin all her injuries like she did in that interview wit Jeff. GM had at least Elissa and possibly others on her side in the jury house but after heranswers and final speech any votes she woulda got flipped to Andy.

Amanda and McCrae didn't have any power anymore because he turned on them.

McCranda didn't have power cause Elissa and GM openly went after them and the house realized they finally had the numbers, thats why Andy floated to the Exterminators cause if errbody was still loyal to McCranda he wouldn't have jumped ship. Not to mention he was desperate to show America he wasn't a floater after gettin called out by Zingbot for it, ironic how his big game move that week ended up bein a classic floater move.

So apparently Aaryn received offers from 6 modeling agencies.

Allegedly. Thats prolly her PR team tryna get agencies interested in her by puttin out a rumor that she has alot of offers, thats some shyt celebrities do in those situations just like her downplayin gettin fired by sayin it was just for fun and the agency wasn't that great. Problem is she said that after this video came out of her gettin blindsided by the news she was fired and her havin a reaction of shock and denial.



Dude was on some straightshyt.

Bad publicity is still publicity. Agencies figure she'll garner attention, so probably figure it's a low-risk high reward investment.

Its high risk considerin all the different groups she offended, if muhfukkas decided to boycott errbody involved would be screwed.

White people don't give a fukk about racism. Look how "loved" Ginamarie was despite all the racists things she has said.

Look at twitter. Everyone is pro-Aaryn now because she has "changed" and dumbass Candice give her her blessing.



We got this dude Howard scared all now still to call people out on their racism and you got Candice and Helen out there forgiving these racists scum.



Its funny all they have to do is say sorry and everything is forgotten.

shyts gross how people on Twitter rushin to support those three racist bytches, its givin them the chance to try and ignore what they said by pretendin like nothin happened and deflect attention to their fans by retweetin all the positive comments. Amanda already tried to get her "McCranda Mafia" as backup when someone sent her a threat to beat that ass, she musta been shook too cause they evidently got her number and say they gon be waitin at the airport.

Her supporters will be vocal while those who hate her will remain silent because hating her is the norm and doesn't need mentioning. That's how it always works when the hype around a story like this has died down.

White people don't care about racism

Whats even more annoyin is how the supporters and most of the past BB housguests are puttin on the cape for these racists tellin fans the usual "its just a game/don't be negative/everyone makes mistakes" bullshyt, so now anytime they get criticized for their comments they call those people "haters" as if whats bein said to them ain't legit. Even cats like Evel dikk and Parker who were against the racism are pullin a CBS and singlin out GM as if she was the only one that was racist while givin the other two a pass, even tho Parker retweeted someone sayin that his open letter could apply to Aaryn and Amanda too.

I gave Howard the benefit of the doubt until he admitted to flirting with Amanda.

The way that bytch was jockin him all summer talkin bout his "big black dikk", wonderin if it tastes like cocoa butter or watermelon, fantasizin about how scary he is sexually cause he a big black dude, tellin everyone she had a black penis inside her before, sayin "THANK YOU!" when he whispered in her ear that he was gonna fukk the shyt outta her then runnin round the house lettin everybody know he said it of course he gonna try to smash, if anythin I'd lose respect for him if he didn't.

Matter fact given that GM was jumpin all over him when they got into the house feelin on his muscles in that cast photo and sayin "Howard was hot but I don't date outside my species." he shoulda tried to fukk her too, she basically lettin it be known she one of them racist white bytches whose parents wouldn't want her to bring a brotha home but she'd still let a nikka beat on the low low.

That shyt with Howard still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and it underscores something i've believed for a long time. When it comes to blk folks and Christianity, it's the source of our greatest strength and also greatest liablity/crutch.

He should have jumped on Candice's way of thinking when they was in there but instead he tried to pass it off like he just had to great of a temper to get into it. He an ole turn the other cheek, love thine enemy ass nikka...religion has him neutered to the point he wasn't even just speaking up and standing up for himself.

Man I just keep imaginin how GOAT it woulda been if instead of Howard they had Will Mega in there wit them racist crackas.

But that's exactly what Andy was doing. He would go out out there gather as much info as possible, bring it back to who he was aligned with and then plan their attacks. Its true that Amanda was out there calling the shots, but a lot of it had to do with the info that Andy was feeding her.

nikka was nothin more than a floater who snitched, when the other side had more power he floated over and snitched to them.

 

[GreatestLaker]

http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/20/aaryn-gries-big-brother-not-racist

At least she finally admittin she been makin racist comments her whole life.

@ GinaMarie pullin a Kaitlin on Twitter and lowkey takin pics wit as many people of color as she can, bytch pimpin out her hispanic relatives and the whole nine.

Amanda just tryna play it off talkin bout she has haters hopin if she don't mention her comments people will forget what she said.

Andy damn near went out like Marcellas and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, thats why errbody in the audience had that collective gasp/sigh and went "aww" when he evicted Spencer cause it looked like he just cost himself the game. GM played better than Andy did she just couldn't articulate it and likely settled for second place, she coulda mentioned her HOH/Veto wins endurance ability and how she went all out in each competition by listin all her injuries like she did in that interview wit Jeff. GM had at least Elissa and possibly others on her side in the jury house but after heranswers and final speech any votes she woulda got flipped to Andy.


McCranda didn't have power cause Elissa and GM openly went after them and the house realized they finally had the numbers, thats why Andy floated to the Exterminators cause if errbody was still loyal to McCranda he wouldn't have jumped ship. Not to mention he was desperate to show America he wasn't a floater after gettin called out by Zingbot for it, ironic how his big game move that week ended up bein a classic floater move.


Allegedly. Thats prolly her PR team tryna get agencies interested in her by puttin out a rumor that she has alot of offers, thats some shyt celebrities do in those situations just like her downplayin gettin fired by sayin it was just for fun and the agency wasn't that great. Problem is she said that after this video came out of her gettin blindsided by the news she was fired and her havin a reaction of shock and denial.



Dude was on some straightshyt.


Its high risk considerin all the different groups she offended, if muhfukkas decided to boycott errbody involved would be screwed.


shyts gross how people on Twitter rushin to support those three racist bytches, its givin them the chance to try and ignore what they said by pretendin like nothin happened and deflect attention to their fans by retweetin all the positive comments. Amanda already tried to get her "McCranda Mafia" as backup when someone sent her a threat to beat that ass, she musta been shook too cause they evidently got her number and say they gon be waitin at the airport.


Whats even more annoyin is how the supporters and most of the past BB housguests are puttin on the cape for these racists tellin fans the usual "its just a game/don't be negative/everyone makes mistakes" bullshyt, so now anytime they get criticized for their comments they call those people "haters" as if whats bein said to them ain't legit. Even cats like Evel dikk and Parker who were against the racism are pullin a CBS and singlin out GM as if she was the only one that was racist while givin the other two a pass, even tho Parker retweeted someone sayin that his open letter could apply to Aaryn and Amanda too.

The way that bytch was jockin him all summer talkin bout his "big black dikk", wonderin if it tastes like cocoa butter or watermelon, fantasizin about how scary he is sexually cause he a big black dude, tellin everyone she had a black penis inside her before, sayin "THANK YOU!" when he whispered in her ear that he was gonna fukk the shyt outta her then runnin round the house lettin everybody know he said it of course he gonna try to smash, if anythin I'd lose respect for him if he didn't.

Matter fact given that GM was jumpin all over him when they got into the house feelin on his muscles in that cast photo and sayin "Howard was hot but I don't date outside my species." he shoulda tried to fukk her too, she basically lettin it be known she one of them racist white bytches whose parents wouldn't want her to bring a brotha home but she'd still let a nikka beat on the low low.


Man I just keep imaginin how GOAT it woulda been if instead of Howard they had Will Mega in there wit them racist crackas.


nikka was nothin more than a floater who snitched, when the other side had more power he floated over and snitched to them.

Andy actually won more competitions than Ginamarie. In fact he won the most competitions this season...... LOL @ listing comp wins, when Andy won more than her.

Ginamarie has no argument to win over Andy. NONE.

Ginamarie was the best player just like how Amanda, Helena, Howard and Elissa were right?

From week 3 I said Andy and McCrae were the two best players this season and you laughed and called me an idiot. Guess what? McCrae finished 4th and Andy won the whole fukking thing.



Oh you also said it was a bad move that Andy told Amanda about the Exterminators and about not voting for her, because she would have been pissed off at him and turn the jury against him. Even though she would have found out about it from someone else in the jury.......... Yeah, that made so much sense. How did that work out there for you, buddy?



You don't understand this game, dawg. That's the fukking truth. I've been right about nearly everything and you've been wrong about EVERYTHING. How many more times are you going to come in here backtracking?

 

[Stack Money]

Tho the second pic would be hotter if she was sittin in GM's lap like that.

Andy actually won more competitions than Ginamarie. In fact he won the most competitions this season...... LOL @ listing comp wins, when Andy won more than her.

Ginamarie has no argument to win over Andy. NONE.

Ginamarie was the best player just like how Amanda, Helena, Howard and Elissa were right?

From week 3 I said Andy and McCrae were the two best players this season and you laughed and called me an idiot. Guess what? McCrae finished 4th and Andy won the whole fukking thing.



Oh you also said it was a bad move that Andy told Amanda about the Exterminators and about not voting for her, because she would have been pissed off at him and turn the jury against him. Even though she would have found out about it from someone else in the jury.......... Yeah, that made so much sense. How did that work out there for you, buddy?



You don't understand this game, dawg. That's the fukking truth. I've been right about nearly everything and you've been wrong about EVERYTHING. How many more times are you going to come in here backtracking?

Andy got most of his comp wins at the very end when all the major threats were gone, wasn't but like 4 people left in the game so its easier to win then try pullin out those wins in a packed house. Only thing Andy had was he was never a target (neither was GM really) but that was due to him bein a floater, shyt Spencer was never a target either don't make him a great player.

You jumped from dikk to dikk all summer playin prisoner of the moment, on different occasions you said both of them weren't gonna make it to the end and at one point you had Andy leavin before the final 5. It was a good move to vote for Amanda just a bad one to play fast and loose wit tryna do a frame up, and anytime you screw over someone as emotional as her and let her know about it you run the risk of them votin against you in the end (just look at your boy Dan last season).

Its easy to "be right about everythin" when you flip flop, no wonder you love Andy's floatin ass so much you do the same shyt wit your "predictions" ridin wit whatever's hot at that second. Dummies like you been gassin this snitch up so much you actually got him feelin himself thinkin he the GOAT.



I guess this means Andy >>>>> Dan

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I was lookin like who the hell is this dude arguing with? then realized I still got dude on ignore.

the season over let me take him off real quick lol.

 

[GreatestLaker]

Tho the second pic would be hotter if she was sittin in GM's lap like that.


Andy got most of his comp wins at the very end when all the major threats were gone, wasn't but like 4 people left in the game so its easier to win then try pullin out those wins in a packed house. Only thing Andy had was he was never a target (neither was GM really) but that was due to him bein a floater, shyt Spencer was never a target either don't make him a great player.

You jumped from dikk to dikk all summer playin prisoner of the moment, on different occasions you said both of them weren't gonna make it to the end and at one point you had Andy leavin before the final 5. It was a good move to vote for Amanda just a bad one to play fast and loose wit tryna do a frame up, and anytime you screw over someone as emotional as her and let her know about it you run the risk of them votin against you in the end (just look at your boy Dan last season).

Its easy to "be right about everythin" when you flip flop, no wonder you love Andy's floatin ass so much you do the same shyt wit your "predictions" ridin wit whatever's hot at that second. Dummies like you been gassin this snitch up so much you actually got him feelin himself thinkin he the GOAT.



I guess this means Andy >>>>> Dan

Going by that logic then Ginamarie should have won more competitions than Andy. Since according to you she was better at comps and there were only 4 people left. But she wasn't because Andy actually won more comps than her and he was throwing most of them.

Let me just say this again. I DO NOT CARE FOR COMP WINS AT ALL. I'm a fan of how Dr. Will and Dan play the game. They don't rely on comps to get to the end. I judge players by their social games, game awareness, strategic game and how well they manipulate people. Judging players on how they do in competitions is stupid, because most these comps are crap shoots. You can't rely on them. Just look at Aaryn, she was on her way to breaking the HOH record, but she was a terrible player, because she wasn't good socially, wasn't strategic and she couldn't manipulate people. She didn't even run her HOH's. Jeremy and Amanda did. And she got out people that weren't coming after her.

Andy was never a target, because he had great relationships with people. (Social game) They all thought he was on their side. When he wasn't. (Manipulation) And he got rid of people that would have targeted him. (Strategic game).

Again Amanda would have found out about it regardless, because of how the jury house is set up. Its always best to be the first to tell someone, than for them to hear about it from someone else. The frame job was a good move. It got McCrae to take out his only remaining ally.

Andy was clearly the best player this season. He had the most well rounded game. But this season really lacked great game players. McCrae had the potential to be great, but he let Amanda tank his game, by isolating himself with her in the second half. Spencer is another one, but he had to lay low after the Moving Company blew up else he would have been targeted. So we didn't see shyt from him. And Amanda, but her social game was horrendous, she lacked game awareness and a lot of her game moves didn't make any sense.

 

[Izanami]

glad GM didn't win.

 

[Stack Money]

Going by that logic then Ginamarie should have won more competitions than Andy. Since according to you she was better at comps and there were only 4 people left. But she wasn't because Andy actually won more comps than her and he was throwing most of them.

Let me just say this again. I DO NOT CARE FOR COMP WINS AT ALL. I'm a fan of how Dr. Will and Dan play the game. They don't rely on comps to get to the end. I judge players by their social games, game awareness, strategic game and how well they manipulate people. Judging players on how they do in competitions is stupid, because most these comps are crap shoots. You can't rely on them. Just look at Aaryn, she was on her way to breaking the HOH record, but she was a terrible player, because she wasn't good socially, wasn't strategic and she couldn't manipulate people. She didn't even run her HOH's. Jeremy and Amanda did. And she got out people that weren't coming after her.

Andy was never a target, because he had great relationships with people. (Social game) They all thought he was on their side. When he wasn't. (Manipulation) And he got rid of people that would have targeted him. (Strategic game).

Again Amanda would have found out about it regardless, because of how the jury house is set up. Its always best to be the first to tell someone, than for them to hear about it from someone else. The frame job was a good move. It got McCrae to take out his only remaining ally.

Andy was clearly the best player this season. He had the most well rounded game. But this season really lacked great game players. McCrae had the potential to be great, but he let Amanda tank his game, by isolating himself with her in the second half. Spencer is another one, but he had to lay low after the Moving Company blew up else he would have been targeted. So we didn't see shyt from him. And Amanda, but her social game was horrendous, she lacked game awareness and a lot of her game moves didn't make any sense.

You thinkin comp wins are irrelevant is exactly why your dumbass knows nothin about Big Brother, don't matter which type of gameplay you prefer winnin competitions is a major part of the game. Its you smart dumb cats that get so impressed by master manipulators that you overrate that aspect of the game and underrate comp wins and play like anyone who beasts in HOH/Vetos is somehow a shyt player cause they don't go the Dr. Will route. You frontin as if every comp is some true/false crapshoot, you can rely on mental competitions like puzzles and endurance comps if you actually really good at it but that manipulation shyt is what's unreliable cause some cats ain't naive and aren't able to be controlled like that especially if they know thats your game.

Sayin Spencer was one of the people who had potential to be great shows how bad you are at judgin players, he the only one in the house that floated even more than Andy did (Eric Shelly Andy Spencer, you sure love you some floaters). Dude was so fat and out of shape that he wasn't bout to win anythin physical and his remedial behind couldn't come close to winnin mental competitions, he MIGHT have been able to con some idiots in there but most people knew he was shady so I don't know where you see any potential at. The only thing Amanda had was social game bytch couldn't even win comps when nikkas was throwin it to her, if you really think her social game sucked (it didn't she ran the house most of the summer and her moves that "didn't make any sense" got out all of her big threats) then that would mean she had zero potential too further provin you have no idea what you talkin bout.

BTW who do you think is the greatest Laker? I figure your name is referrin to like Magic or Kobe but goin off your opinions in here you prolly say its Gasol.

 

[L&HH]

All this arguing back and forth, man this season was . There is not a single player that gets respect from me in that house. All the accomplishments by certain players Aaryn's comp wins, Andy's overall victory, Amanda looking like some great player due to her manipulation was all a consequence of how garbage the casting was (somebody had to win the competitions, I mean Aaryn won a comp she was trying to throw for fukks sake ). I havent even watched every season and I can confidently say if you put any player in this season in any other season, they dont even make it to the final 6.

Hopefully NO player from this season makes it to ALL Stars 2 (Im pretty sure either Elissa or Rachel will be in it ). All Stars one damn near had half the BB6 cast

 

[L&HH]

As a matter of fact how about we change the subject of the thread to who nikkas would like to see in All Stars 2.

Honestly as much as I fukk with Dan idk how I would feel about seeing him again. Maybe a Dan vs Will showoff . Janelle is another one Im not sure I would like to see. I def want to see Danielle from season two (I never got to witness her play).

But some decent choices I guess:
Dan, Will, Danielle, Danielle Donato, Janelle, Ian, Frank, one of the Riley's, one of brigade nikkas (probably Hayden), James (og veto king). I havent watched all the seasons so I dont really know anybody else

The only issue I have with the above it's tooooo power heavy, having all those comp beasts and strategist I dont know how good the end outcome will be (I feel it would just be an all out war and you wont really see any true gameplay, I could be wrong). It's fun watching a Dan or Will manipulate ppl but I doubt they'd be able to play it how they want b/c everybody already knows their game...

 

[GreatestLaker]

You thinkin comp wins are irrelevant is exactly why your dumbass knows nothin about Big Brother, don't matter which type of gameplay you prefer winnin competitions is a major part of the game. Its you smart dumb cats that get so impressed by master manipulators that you overrate that aspect of the game and underrate comp wins and play like anyone who beasts in HOH/Vetos is somehow a shyt player cause they don't go the Dr. Will route. You frontin as if every comp is some true/false crapshoot, you can rely on mental competitions like puzzles and endurance comps if you actually really good at it but that manipulation shyt is what's unreliable cause some cats ain't naive and aren't able to be controlled like that especially if they know thats your game.

Sayin Spencer was one of the people who had potential to be great shows how bad you are at judgin players, he the only one in the house that floated even more than Andy did (Eric Shelly Andy Spencer, you sure love you some floaters). Dude was so fat and out of shape that he wasn't bout to win anythin physical and his remedial behind couldn't come close to winnin mental competitions, he MIGHT have been able to con some idiots in there but most people knew he was shady so I don't know where you see any potential at. The only thing Amanda had was social game bytch couldn't even win comps when nikkas was throwin it to her, if you really think her social game sucked (it didn't she ran the house most of the summer and her moves that "didn't make any sense" got out all of her big threats) then that would mean she had zero potential too further provin you have no idea what you talkin bout.

BTW who do you think is the greatest Laker? I figure your name is referrin to like Magic or Kobe but goin off your opinions in here you prolly say its Gasol.

Comps are overrated, because you can't rely on them. It doesn't matter how great you are at competitions. You can't revolve a solid game plan around winning comps, because its impossible to predict who will win. Janelle is the best competitor the show ever had and she got knocked out at third place both times. fukking Ivette, Maggie and Boogie beat her. Who could have predicted that? Great players navigate through the game without needing to win competitions.

Spencer was a smart player.

Amanda was a terrible social player. How the fukk can you even argue against this? She got into arguments with EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE HOUSE! Even McCrae was getting tired of her. Every single person in the house hated her.

You just don't understand this game dude.

This is Ian's top 5 player ranking. I don't agree with his order, but his top 5 is definitely correct.

 

[GreatestLaker]

As a matter of fact how about we change the subject of the thread to who nikkas would like to see in All Stars 2.

Honestly as much as I fukk with Dan idk how I would feel about seeing him again. Maybe a Dan vs Will showoff . Janelle is another one Im not sure I would like to see. I def want to see Danielle from season two (I never got to witness her play).

But some decent choices I guess:
Dan, Will, Danielle, Danielle Donato, Janelle, Ian, Frank, one of the Riley's, one of brigade nikkas (probably Hayden), James (og veto king). I havent watched all the seasons so I dont really know anybody else

The only issue I have with the above it's tooooo power heavy, having all those comp beasts and strategist I dont know how good the end outcome will be (I feel it would just be an all out war and you wont really see any true gameplay, I could be wrong). It's fun watching a Dan or Will manipulate ppl but I doubt they'd be able to play it how they want b/c everybody already knows their game...

Ian said when he talked to the producers they said Aaryn and Amanda are the two players that have the best shot at coming back from this season.

Dan played a different game his second time around and Will changed his game up in All-stars. They would have to change their games up again to go far, but neither will come back. They would most likely be the first 2 players evicted and they both know that.