Big brother 15... Official thread.. Watch how fast the brother gets evicted

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I feel bad for Spencer. Aligning with Howard ruined his game. Spencer voted with the group but Howard didn't and now he's getting targeted because of that. fukk Howard, get this guy out already. His only chance of survival really is to win HOH next week and make some deals to keep him save and hope they don't turn their back on him.
 

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It's like you can always tell who watches this game and who doesnt know what the fukk they're doing but I have never seen a gameplay this BAD.

I got a question so has Helen straight up told him EVERYBODY has told and confirmed with her MC or...

Also in Ian's podcast he was calling MC THE WORST alliance ever in the history of the game, and :wow: he's right.
Nah, she told him she's heard about the alliance and she named the people who were in it and he kept denying it.

He thinks Jeremy is the only one that told her, but he wasn't.

For some reason that idiot still thinks McCrae is loyal to the MC. :dead:
 

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The Rob Cesternino podcast?

I wouldn't listen to anything Ian says. Dude was a terrible player that got lucky by winning comps down the stretch. His strategy in BB14 was TERRIBLE. He got played by both Britney and Dan.

Anyone with any sense would have known Howard was in big trouble. I called it a couple days ago and that idiot Ian was still saying last night that Howard was in a good spot. Dude is a moron.

Yea that one. To Ian's defense the podcast was right after the episode before the whole flipping on MC and throwing Howard under the bus came along. I doubt now he'll feel the same way.

And yea Ian didnt play the best of games, he was really being carried by Dan. Wasnt there a point when after Frank was evicted that Dan was going to target Ian but Ian won HOH and was forced to keep working with him?
 

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:patrice: In the Ian podcast he, Ian, was talking about how the reason Nick got booted was cause he was trying to follow in Dan's footsteps (in being the silent mastermind type) which is what ultimately led to his demise b/c the houseguest are somewhat staunchly against Dan type players this season. Although I highly doubt they recognize what Mcrae's doing.

I think Mcrae is playing things well but idk about that showmance. THe showmance in of itself is very un-Danlike but being in the showmance to me doesnt seem like the problem. Its the fact that I dont think Mcrae wears the pants and is really calling the shots in that relationship and the one thing with Dan was in every relationship he had with somebody he was the ultimate puppeteer and pulling the strings so unless McCrae can ge tthat underwraps i'll reserve my judgment on thinking he can win. But I think he's the only player with any real gameplan hear and just might pull it off.
Nick played nothing like Dan. Nick isolated himself from everyone and took leadership control in an alliance by telling people what to do. Dan never did either of that. Dan used mind tricks to control people in his alliance. He would say things and ask questions to make you think his way. He never straight up told them what to do. That's one of the worst things you can do in BB. Tell people what to do. That's one of the main things that pissed McCrae off about the MC. They always tried to tell him to do.
 

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When being loyal goes wrong. Is it really that bad tho...i mean yall don't think he can come clean and just say he was being loyal and recover?
 

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first 4 weeks

be nice to everyone
stay really low
dont make too many deals
day 1 alliance never works..most of the time
 

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When being loyal goes wrong. Is it really that bad tho...i mean yall don't think he can come clean and just say he was being loyal and recover?

Well, he had his chance and didn't. Howard only has Spencer. That's it. Everyone else has their team. Jeremy is cool with Helen now and the dumb racist bimbos. Helen is cool with everyone. GM is a weak player so she'll go far. Spencer only has Howard. Aaryn has Kaitlin and vice versa. Candice is cool with her crew. Elissa will be around for a while with that MVP BS. McC and Amanda are good with Helen's crew and they aren't targets by anyone. He's pretty much done.

It's mostly his fault but he would have been a target regardless if he voted for Elissa to stay. McC was gonna throw them under the bus and so was Jeremy.
 

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:patrice: In the Ian podcast he, Ian, was talking about how the reason Nick got booted was cause he was trying to follow in Dan's footsteps (in being the silent mastermind type) which is what ultimately led to his demise b/c the houseguest are somewhat staunchly against Dan type players this season. Although I highly doubt they recognize what Mcrae's doing.

I think Mcrae is playing things well but idk about that showmance. THe showmance in of itself is very un-Danlike but being in the showmance to me doesnt seem like the problem. Its the fact that I dont think Mcrae wears the pants and is really calling the shots in that relationship and the one thing with Dan was in every relationship he had with somebody he was the ultimate puppeteer and pulling the strings so unless McCrae can ge tthat underwraps i'll reserve my judgment on thinking he can win. But I think he's the only player with any real gameplan hear and just might pull it off.
The showmance should hurt his game, but for some weird reason its not right now. That's the only thing that can stop him from winning this season. He will have to cut Amanda at some point.
Yea that one. To Ian's defense the podcast was right after the episode before the whole flipping on MC and throwing Howard under the bus came along. I doubt now he'll feel the same way.

And yea Ian didnt play the best of games, he was really being carried by Dan. Wasnt there a point when after Frank was evicted that Dan was going to target Ian but Ian won HOH and was forced to keep working with him?
Dan wanted Ian out from the get go, but he had other people he wanted out before him.

His hit list was Britney, Frank, Ian or Shane.

He wanted Frank and Boogie to take out the Quack Pack and he wanted the QP to take out Frank. So he could go to the final 2 with Boogie. Because he knew no one would vote for a previous winner. With Dan and Boogie in the final 2 they had no choice, but to vote for Dan. What fukked up his plan was Boogie was to loyal to Frank. Dan tried everything he possibly could to get Boogie to take out Frank, but it wasn't happening. It came to the point where Boogie completely turned on Dan.

I know the BB show didn't edit it properly, but Britney HAD a lot of power in BB14. She was even more powerful than Dan at one point. The first day Shane, Danielle, Britney and Dan formed an alliance, Britney was secretly trying to get Dan out, because she knew how good he was. Dan figured it out pretty soon and she moved to his number 1 target over Frank.

But yeah after Britney and Frank left Ian was his number 1 target.
 

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When being loyal goes wrong. Is it really that bad tho...i mean yall don't think he can come clean and just say he was being loyal and recover?

Thats why everybody is so upset in here because that is ALL he had to do. Was confess and just say he was being loyal and Helen would have forgiven him but he kept on lying. It seems too late because everybody else (Jeremy, Mccrae) has beaten him to the punch. The worst part is he was probably in the best graces with helen more than anybody in the house other than Ellisa. They were havenots together, he prayed for her and elissa when they were in their biggest time of need, and he used to work out with helen in the mornings and shyt. shyt really got me dumbfounded as to how somebody could fukk all that up.
 

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When being loyal goes wrong. Is it really that bad tho...i mean yall don't think he can come clean and just say he was being loyal and recover?
He had to do that from the start man. I think its too late now.

He pulled the region card on Helen when he denied being part of the MC and that's going to hurt him a lot.

Dan would throw Spencer completely under the bus. To get in with Helen. I think that's Howard's only move now. Throwing McCrae under the bus wouldn't work now, because he told the truth to Helen.

He fukked his game up big time. He isn't going to recover from this. He isn't smart enough too.
 

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Since Howard isn't wise enough to climb out of this whole he dug for himself. His only hope is for some other people to fukk up and become bigger targets than he is.
 

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The showmance should hurt his game, but for some weird reason its not right now. That's the only thing that can stop him from winning this season. He will have to cut Amanda at some point.

Dan wanted Ian out from the get go, but he had other people he wanted out before him.

His hit list was Britney, Frank, Ian or Shane.

He wanted Frank and Boogie to take out the Quack Pack and he wanted the QP to take out Frank. So he could go to the final 2 with Boogie. Because he knew no one would vote for a previous winner. With Dan and Boogie in the final 2 they had no choice, but to vote for Dan. What fukked up his plan was Boogie was to loyal to Frank. Dan tried everything he possibly could to get Boogie to take out Frank, but it wasn't happening. It came to the point where Boogie completely turned on Dan.

I know the BB show didn't edit it properly, but Britney HAD a lot of power in BB14. She was even more powerful than Dan at one point. The first day Shane, Danielle, Britney and Dan formed an alliance, Britney was secretly trying to get Dan out, because she knew how good he was. Dan figured it out pretty soon and she moved to his number 1 target over Frank.

But yeah after Britney and Frank left Ian was his number 1 target.

Yea that's the thing with Dan, EVERYBODY was expendable and being in a showance kind of messes that thought process up, especially one where you're not pulling the strings.

:ohhh: I always knew Dan wanted to really work with Boogie but I always thought it was cause he thought he was a strong player but it struck me as odd because Boogie isnt really a guy you can control/manipulate. It never occurred to me that Dan was considering the fact that they were both winners therefore it would help him win again in the final two.
 

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Well damn Howard. :snoop:

Idk i didn't realize Helen was feeling him til i watched her interactions with him on the feed last night...i think she'd be willing to forgive him but he'd really have to go to her and maybe even flirt/get that showmance going but he's already seemed to have chosen Candice so..:manny:

I think all that religious stuff is also working extra hard against him at the point he straight lying to ppl he didn't need too.
 

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1st week- Win HOH, not sure why people try to avoid it like the plague. All the deals come to you, everyone kisses your ass. You can only fukk this up by not putting up a house consensus ..

fall back and befriend those in a showmance, but also target those in a showmance, so never get into a showmance ...

Always backdoor the physical threat ...pause
 
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