Classics Discussion: MF DOOM & Madvillain

[Inspect Her Deck]

Ok so some of y'all will be familiar with a project I'm deciding to run. I made this thread: The Official 'Classic Album' Discussion Thread, trying to reach a conclusion as to what defines a classic album. After much discussion, I am running with this definition personally, so take it as you will when you consider your classic albums. But this definition in particular was most agreed upon.

Classic: 1. An album considered by consensus of the core hip hop community to be of the highest quality (doesn't have to be perfect or flawless, just an album that the consensus deems the shyt).
2. Assuming that condition 1 is met, is this an album that has stood the test of time amongst the core hip hop community? Is that an album still held in high regard, still referenced at least ten years after its release? By a consensus of the hip hop community?

Props to @mobbinfms for the definition and also for his help generally in helping me with ideas to create these threads.

So I'll be going through one artist per day, and I will list out all their discography or close to all of it until the year 2005, as we decided that an album needs at least 10 years of existence before it can be called a classic or not.

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To help bring even more attention to these threads, I'm gonna create a hashtag (again props to mobbinfms for the idea) and I urge you guys to click on the tag and click on the option to watch the tag.

Here it is: #coliclassics

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All caps when you spell this fella's name: MF DOOM. Alongside him, his partner in crime Madlib.

Let's begin!

I will be making a POLL. For each album I will present a YES or NO option so if you think that particular album is a classic, you click 'yes' on the poll for THAT album and vice-versa. The acceptance rate for an album to be deemed a CERTIFIED classic is 80%.

If you don't think an album is a classic, DO NOT LEAVE THE POLL BLANK. You vote NO for that album instead so at least we register your vote.

I will NOT count any comments in the thread as votes, you must use the poll. The comments section should be used for discussion only.

Tagging some mods:

@FreshAIG @That Singer Guy... @hustlemania @houston911 @SoulController

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

#coliclassics

a real tough one, all DOOM albums are of supreme quality

gave it to his debut and of course Madvillainy, arguably the most famous underground album ever

MM..Food and Vaudeville are close but not enough outside the quality to justify classic status

 

[Deltron]

gave it to Op/MV/MM Food..personal favorites are the VV ones and special herb series

 

[SirBiatch]

Madvillainy gets the classic nod from me only because it's some of the weirdest amazing rap I've ever heard. I don't like the album as a whole but there are 5 stellar joints.

 

[str8up]

Mm.. Food and Madvillainy

I think Food is better than Doomsday by a decent margin, and Madvillainy speaks for itself

 

[Deltron]

wonder if DoomStarks will hold up as a #coliclassic whenever it finally drops


so many promised projects...

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

wonder if DoomStarks will hold up as a #coliclassic whenever it finally drops


so many promised projects...

as long as DOOM doesn't fukk up, coz you know Ghost is ready to bring the heat

also I thought it was coming out this month?

no word from it rather than the teased cover last week. will it be a surprise drop?

 

[Deltron]

no idea if it's dropping this month...I've taken every bit if info with a grain of salt over the years.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

What do you guys think about rappers with aliases?

Is it more creative?

What d'you think of DOOMs use of alter-personas with the inceptions of Viktor Vaughn and King Geedorah for example?

 

[str8up]

What do you guys think about rappers with aliases?

Is it more creative?

What d'you think of DOOMs use of alter-personas with the inceptions of Viktor Vaughn and King Geedorah for example?

It's good when it is done right, such as Captain Murphy

 

[JayBaldacci]

OD is a great NYC record. classic.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

It's good when it is done right, such as Captain Murphy

Yeah goes without saying. I think an example of a bad one is RZA's Bobby Digital. Not only were the albums bad, but I think the execution of the concept was not so sharp. Like I get this is the hedonistic, no fukks given, carefree contrast to the focused and spiritual Abbott but still...I could do without that shyt.

DOOM on the other hand is probably the best. The way he keeps his albums thematically consistent with the character is quite remarkable.

 

[JayBaldacci]

Madvillainy gets the classic nod from me only because it's some of the weirdest amazing rap I've ever heard. I don't like the album as a whole but there are 5 stellar joints.

Operation Doomsday
MF Food
Vaudeville Villain
Madvillainy

that's me though.

 

[soulfuljah]

I gave it to Operation - Doomsday, MMM...Food, and Madvilliany and

Mm.. Food and Madvillainy

I think Food is better than Doomsday by a decent margin, and Madvillainy speaks for itself

I agree with this. To me, Food was better than Doomsday. Beef Rap alone. Joint had more quotables than most albums...

 

[SirBiatch]

I used to rinse this joint



edit: listening to it now after a few years of not hearing it at all. I still remember most of the rhymes

edit 2: Another one.



It's interesting to see these tracks now referred to as classics. Back then, they were just dope ass songs. Whether something was classic or not was the farthest thing from my mind back then.