Colin Kaepernick grilled by Miami Dolphins reporter over Fidel Castro shirt

[MeachTheMonster]

I'm sure I'm wasting my breath but whatever....

Revolution is very seldom without bloodshed and fukked up shyt, and I nor anyone else is saying it's right or that we should respect THOSE things about him. But you can't be so fukkin dense as to sit there and deny the good things and the good work that was done. Cubans were actually on the ground fighting the Cold War from Latin America to Africa and oftentimes Fidel's troops were on the right side. The Cuban legacy in Angola alone is a powerful testament to the better merits of the revolution. How do you play a part in ending apartheid and helping Mandela/ANC but this is the only drivel you can come up with in regards to the man?

Not to make light but given that we're in the Coli I'll make this comparison. Fidel is very much like Al Davis. At one point a brilliant man that boldly took the reigns of control, stood up against authority on many occasions, stood up for others on the world stage. But he held on way too long and was very ruthless in order to maintain order and control. Ultimately, while healthcare and education are exemplary given Cuba's economic deprivation his revolution didn't fully solve the issue of race on the island and the irony is that the island has similarities to pre-revolution with the poverty, lowkey prostitution, and surely we don't fully know who's become rich from the state owned enterprises, if anyone has at all.

So again, no one is denying his flaws but he's been on the right side of things on more than one occasion for me to respect and what he represented in this world.

You can take any oppressive leader and say "well he did some good things"

German people could look back and say "yeah I know hitler killed millions of Jews but we had great healthcare back then"

 

[killacal]

As American white people are learning, it only takes a matter of time before the oppression comes straight to you.

You sit idly by while police keep bussing black folks upside the head, it's only a matter of time before they start shooting little 12 year old white kids.

That's why oppression should never be condoned.

My nikka what the fukk are you even talking about
nikkas c00ning so hard they can't think straight

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

As American white people are learning, it only takes a matter of time before the oppression comes straight to you.

You sit idly by while police keep bussing black folks upside the head, it's only a matter of time before they start shooting little 12 year old white kids.

That's why oppression should never be condoned.

What are the odds of this? In fact, to even suggest this would be a denial of the very real image slander of Black life that goes on every day. Are you serious?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

You can take any oppressive leader and say "well he did some good things"

German people could look back and say "yeah I know hitler killed millions of Jews but we had great healthcare back then"

Hitler and Fidel is a bad comparison, just terrible. Get the fukk outta here idiot.

Hitler's entire ideology was based on racial superiority of the white man and the betrayal of the Socialist Germans against the German people in WWI. Castro might've never even been a Commie had Eisenhower not curved him like he did.

 

[Type Username Here]

You can take any oppressive leader and say "well he did some good things"

German people could look back and say "yeah I know hitler killed millions of Jews but we had great healthcare back then"

Are you retarded?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

What are the odds of this? In fact, to even suggest this would be a denial of the very real image slander of Black life that goes on every day. Are you serious?

My bad 6 year old

BREAKING: Graphic Body Cam Video Released of Cops Murdering 6-Year-Old Autistic Boy

Same story. They defend the cops, he will probably get off

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Hitler and Fidel is a bad comparison, just terrible. Get the fukk outta here idiot.

Hitler's entire ideology was based on racial superiority of the white man and the betrayal of the Socialist Germans against the German people in WWI. Castro might've never even been a Commie had Eisenhower not curved him like he did.

Not comparing the two.

Just saying you can't excuse one bad thing by saying a good thing. Doesn't work like that.


If Kaeps main point is to fight for freedom of the people Castro isn't somebody he should be defending.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

My bad 6 year old

BREAKING: Graphic Body Cam Video Released of Cops Murdering 6-Year-Old Autistic Boy

Same story. They defend the cops, he will probably get off

So this one little instance means there's about to be a slew of young white men killed by police, huh?

K, I'll just check the body count one month from now to see if you've hypothesis is right.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So this one little instance means there's about to be a slew of young white men killed by police, huh?

K, I'll just check the body count one month from now to see if you've hypothesis is right.

It's not just one. There's plenty of stories.

They just voted trump in, and he's the first one that will fukk them over.

It's happened over and over throughout history. One group is oppressed, the other group lets it happen, then eventually the oppression reaches all until the all fights back.

Happened in Cuba too.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Not comparing the two.

Just saying you can't excuse one bad thing by saying a good thing. Doesn't work like that.


If Kaeps main point is to fight for freedom of the people Castro isn't somebody he should be defending.

Yes it can, because we say good things about America every day in spite of all the terrible things this country has done. As we speak, a fukkin pipeline is being built over the sacred lands of the Native people of this country who've nearly been reduced to dust under the grindstone of American Imperialism. A pipeline that's environmentally unsafe and culturally disrespectful to those people. There's so much bullshyt that this country is up to and yet even its biggest critics like myself can still see the good things about this place.

Like @Type Username Here said, you need to have some nuance when discussing people like Fidel Castro. Hitler doesn't need nearly as much nuance, it was pretty clear-cut that he was a racist nutcase that ended up getting his country destroyed and humiliated far worse than they had been humiliated in the first World War.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

It's not just one. There's plenty of stories.

They just voted trump in, and he's the first one that will fukk them over.

It's happened over and over throughout history. One group is oppressed, the other group lets it happen, then eventually the oppression reaches all until the all fights back.

Happened in Cuba too.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I find it laughable to even suggest that somehow whites will be afforded the same treatment from police that Black people have for all these years.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Yes it can, because we say good things about America every day in spite of all the terrible things this country has done. As we speak, a fukkin pipeline is being built over the sacred lands of the Native people of this country who've nearly been reduced to dust under the grindstone of American Imperialism. A pipeline that's environmentally unsafe and culturally disrespectful to those people. There's so much bullshyt that this country is up to and yet even its biggest critics like myself can still see the good things about this place.

Like @Type Username Here said, you need to have some nuance when discussing people like Fidel Castro. Hitler doesn't need nearly as much nuance, it was pretty clear-cut that he was a racist nutcase that ended up getting his country destroyed and humiliated far worse than they had been humiliated in the first World War.

Colin's whole point about America is that we excuse the bad shyt by saying something good.

That's EXACTLY why he is sitting. To show people you can't ignore the bad.

How you support Colin but don't understand his point?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I find it laughable to even suggest that somehow whites will be afforded the same treatment from police that Black people have for all these years.

It's already happening, and not just the police.

The economy, labor, everything. White folks reign of getting all the benefit of the U.S. Government is over. It's why they are so fukking mad and energized right now. What they haven't figured out yet, is that it's their leaders that are doing it to them. They still think it's the black folks, the Mexicans, and the democrats.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Colin's whole point about America is that we excuse the bad shyt by saying something good.

That's EXACTLY why he is sitting. To show people you can't ignore the bad.

How you support Colin but don't understand his point?

Shouldn't I be posing that same question to you?

He wants a more honest and nuanced discussion about the state of things in America. Yet, you aren't even able to have a nuanced discussion about something as simple as Fidel. In fact, the reaction to his shirt underscores his point because more attention is paid to the American viewpoint of Castro rather than a more complex view just like the people he's trying to wake up that only see the good America and nothing more.

You've clearly shown yourself to be a non-thinking parrot of U.S. ideology breh, let's just throw in the damn towel.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

It's already happening, and not just the police.

The economy, labor, everything. White folks reign of getting all the benefit of the U.S. Government is over. It's why they are so fukking mad and energized right now. What they haven't figured out yet, is that it's their leaders that are doing it to them. They still think it's the black folks, the Mexicans, and the democrats.

Ok, we'll see.