Guess The Em Hype Died Down

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I listened to Drake, Em and Jay-Z's album one time each and will never repeat that proccess again in my life...This is pretty much the state of all hip hop releases in 2013.. Even ones dropped by the so called elite...
 

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Didn't like the album.
Then again I typically don't like eminem albums. I need good production, not just rhymes and lyrics
 

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LOL @ you looking for an excuse to discuss an artist you have so much complaint about though...it's nikkas in here complaining like there's a lack of eminem threads and yet you are in every last one on some "bu buuu buut he does __"

I'm not mad at you, I just don't understand you sometimes.

:yeshrug:

If we were to actually go through his albums and list the songs in that "cartoonish/shock value" lane as opposed to other shyt, you would see more balance than you imply with this post you keep making from thread to thread, but i'll let you keep your talking point

And yes, rhymes and emotions, even some of the goofy shyt has serious undertones beneath it and really points to his humor being a defense/coping mechanism. So yes it's a staple but it's not all that he does, what's important is that his approach is authentic to himself.

"my equilibrium's off must be the lithium, I don't need to buy any drugs cuz people gimme em"

I can chuckle at that all while realizing he's making jokes about his overdose in a therapeutic sense to kind of work through it...songs like brain damage while EXTRA EXTRA EXTRA cartoonish jumped out of his head and on to a page from a traumatic event.

Balance? Hardly. And there is nothing serious about looking for trannies or jumping out of the toilet to scare someone. It's mostly cartoonish juvenile scenarios.
 

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Rhymes and emotions? Most of the time he's talking about cartoonish situations or just saying things for shock value.
Balance? Hardly. And there is nothing serious about looking for trannies or jumping out of the toilet to scare someone. It's mostly cartoonish juvenile scenarios.
:stopitslime:Do you listen to music or do you just skim through it?

All of Em's albums have a number of serious/introspective songs thrown in, and this album is no different. And as SunZoo clearly pointed out, even when he comes across as joking around, there are often more serious things being talked about
 

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Balance? Hardly. And there is nothing serious about looking for trannies or jumping out of the toilet to scare someone. It's mostly cartoonish juvenile scenarios.

you obviously didnt listen to the whole album then

if Em' isnt for you then move on....but you post about him like an emotional ex....you must be a drake fan
 

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:stopitslime:Do you listen to music or do you just skim through it?

I've listened to all of his albums. And I'm right about this. Most of the time he's talking about cartoonish scenarios or something for shock value or more "horrorcore" garbage.
 

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I've listened to all of his albums. And I'm right about this. Most of the time he's talking about cartoonish scenarios or something for shock value or more "horrorcore" garbage.

what category do you put "bad guy" in?

interested to know

Em should deff rap more about money, cars, clothes, clubs, etc though right?
 

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I've listened to all of his albums. And I'm right about this. Most of the time he's talking about cartoonish scenarios or something for shock value or more "horrorcore" garbage.
First album, for the most part yea. Only serious songs were If I Had and Rock Bottom. As SunZoo mentioned Brain Damaged was messing around to some extent, but it had a more serious story behind it (in terms of his real life). My Name Is fits your description, but he did throw in stuff about his life was messed up/flunked out of school/mother on drugs with a few lines.

MMLP also fit the description more so of what you're saying - but it did have Stan, The Way I Am and Marshall Mathers which were mostly serious. In The Real Slim Shady he did address how he gets censored/is limited in what he can do in the public eye, and yet all sorts of other obscene things are allowed on television. He also pokes fun at award shows and celebrities in general (in a way that worked and wasn't played out at the time imo). In I'm Back he addresses things like parental supervision, gun control/violence on tv, and he mentions how surprised he is that he's become such a popular name so fast. The Way I Am and Remember Me throw in some lines about music getting blamed for the Columbine shooting. In I'm Back he addresses no-talented pop stars.

Eminem Show is when he started getting a lot more serious with his music, probably the most serious record he's made. Cleaning Out My Closet, Say Goodbye Hollywood, Sing For The Moment, Hailie's Song are the most serious. But songs like White America, Square Dance, Soldier, and Till I Collapse are pretty serious in nature too. Very few "cartoonish/horrocore" type tracks on that album.

As dumb as most of Encore is, it still has songs like Yellow Brick Road, Like Toy Soldiers, Mosh, Spend Some Time, Mockingbird, We As Americans, and Love You More. Evil Deeds is one of those songs that comes across as cartoonish I suppose, but is serious beneath the surface.

Relapse - Deja Vu, Beautiful, Careful What You Wish For. My Mom is another track that is joking in its delivery, but more serious in the truth of how it's true to his life. Definitely a mainly horrorcore/cartoonish album - probably the one that fits your opinion the most.

Recovery - Talkin 2 Myself, Not Afraid, 25 to Life, Space Bound, LTWYL, You're Never Over, Going Through Changes - all pretty serious songs. In fact the majority of this album is pretty serious, this probably has the least amount of joking around next to TES (and even when he's making jokes it comes across more serious than usual). Nothing on this record sounds cartoonish to me, and there's certainly no horrocore subject matter.

MMLP2 - Bad Guy is fairly serious, especially at the end. Leacy, Stronger Than I Was, The Monster, Headlights, Beautiful Pain. Then there's songs like Rhyme or Reason, Brainless, and Groundhog Day which have some serious aspects to them, even if the delivery/sound of the song doesn't indicate that.

So yea, if you think Eminem's music is nothing more than cartoonish jokes, shock value, and horrocore subject matter, you're not paying attention. Don't know why I wasted time typing that out to someone who probably won't get it anyways, but w/e.
 
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Balance? Hardly. And there is nothing serious about looking for trannies or jumping out of the toilet to scare someone. It's mostly cartoonish juvenile scenarios.

:ld:

There is plenty of balance in his body of work, if you think the overwhelming majority of his songs are "looking for trannies" then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Seems like that's just the shyt you want to focus on because it supports your talking points and general humbug attitude/agenda. It's not like you really wanna debate anything, you just wanna repeat yourself.
 

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I think em has plenty of replay value, it's just that it doesn't fit every setting. He doesn't really make music for the ride, or clubs and lyrically he's the type of artist you really need to pay attention to. I mean once you've heard the lyrics and know em cool, but I can't put a song like evil twin on without getting involved, which is what I love about his music, I can't really be a passive listener. You gotta have the time and space to get tangled up into the rhymes and emotions, and a lot of people just don't really listen to music in that way.

As far as impact I think with any album you kinda have to see if any videos/performances do anything to give it legs, even then the videos aren't as close knit to the actual project as they used to be, or at least it seems that way. If he picks the right single/video combinations he could stretch it out a bit more. I figure monster is mandatory but I'd love a video for evil twin being that it could actually provide for some dope performance visuals.

What's crazy is videos to me used to be so much more apart of the experience of an album and it just seems like now a days they don't matter. You don't gotta wait around for premiers or replays to see them or anything so it's just like i'll catch it when I catch it...it seems so detached from the experience of the album now a days when back in the day how I remembered your album had everything to do with the singles/videos and the moments that kind of set the table for your album..shyt is just so much different now.


Hype dead breh :troll:
 
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