Religion/Spirituality If God has a plan for everyone how do we have freewill?

Brown_Pride

Brown_Pride

All Star
Joined
Jun 8, 2012
Messages
6,416
Reputation
785
Daps
7,887
Reppin
Atheist for Jesus
Assuming you believe in god, consider for the moment that you're trying to understand a concept that an omnipotent entity created and uses to govern the lives of his creations. Of course it's not going to make sense to you or anyone.

Can God be in two places at once? If you believe in an omniscient god then the answer is yes. Now try explaining how it's possible to be in two places at once, let alone ALL places at once.

This is God we're talking about...consider who you're trying to place into a human context of understanding...and then just stop
 
M

Mr.Big Meat McGee

All Star
Joined
Feb 3, 2015
Messages
4,009
Reputation
510
Daps
11,763
Brown_Pride said:
Assuming you believe in god, consider for the moment that you're trying to understand a concept that an omnipotent entity created and uses to govern the lives of his creations. Of course it's not going to make sense to you or anyone.

Can God be in two places at once? If you believe in an omniscient god then the answer is yes. Now try explaining how it's possible to be in two places at once, let alone ALL places at once.

This is God we're talking about...consider who you're trying to place into a human context of understanding...and then just stop
Click to expand...

Finally someone that gets it. People are constantly seeing God from a Human perspective. That's why they can't / won't understand.
 
hayesc0

hayesc0

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
38,509
Reputation
8,265
Daps
118,761
Brown_Pride said:
Assuming you believe in god, consider for the moment that you're trying to understand a concept that an omnipotent entity created and uses to govern the lives of his creations. Of course it's not going to make sense to you or anyone.

Can God be in two places at once? If you believe in an omniscient god then the answer is yes. Now try explaining how it's possible to be in two places at once, let alone ALL places at once.

This is God we're talking about...consider who you're trying to place into a human context of understanding...and then just stop
Click to expand...
This makes no sense to me if humans cant preceive god which it sounds like thats what you are telling me then how do we know he exist or has a plan in the first place.
 
Dr. Sebi Jr.

Dr. Sebi Jr.

Trust Me
Joined
Mar 3, 2013
Messages
3,975
Reputation
-3,325
Daps
9,008
Reppin
Not Technically a "Doctor"
hayesc0 said:
This makes no sense to me if humans cant preceive god which it sounds like thats what you are telling me then how do we know he exist or has a plan in the first place.
Click to expand...
The prophets told us.:blessed:



Ignore the fact that the prophets are human beings who could have made that shyt up and probably did since their prophecies are almost always self-serving. :whoa:
 
Ghost Utmost

Ghost Utmost

The Soul of the Internet
Supporter
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
19,022
Reputation
7,883
Daps
68,450
Reppin
the Aether
You don't have free will. So do this. Just lay on your bed until G-d begins driving your body auto pilot. You'll be able to sit back and watch while someone else drives for a while.

I am being facetious. Whenever you start to doubt if you have free will or not just get up, find a knife, and slowly poke it into your arm. See if G-d makes the knife disappear. If it's cold where you are now, go outside in your boxer and stand there until G-d sends you further instructions.
 
tmonster

tmonster

Superstar
Joined
Nov 26, 2013
Messages
17,900
Reputation
3,205
Daps
31,786
Brown_Pride said:
Assuming you believe in god, consider for the moment that you're trying to understand a concept that an omnipotent entity created and uses to govern the lives of his creations. Of course it's not going to make sense to you or anyone.

Can God be in two places at once? If you believe in an omniscient god then the answer is yes. Now try explaining how it's possible to be in two places at once, let alone ALL places at once.
Click to expand...
tmonster said:

:banderas:
Click to expand...


Brown_Pride said:
This is God we're talking about...consider who you're trying to place into a human context of understanding...and then just stop
Click to expand...

You and I define "human" differently
You think of man, as a lowly puppet, befuddled by his own existence, always one step behind, finding peace only in the submission of his imagination and pride.
I think of him as a MAN, definer of his existence, emboldened by his ignorance, submissive only to his will and desire for understanding.

Existentially, I find your position contemptible, not because of its content, but because of it's pretense, its complacency, its willingness to present and accept a masquerade of intellectual slavery as spiritual freedom, to satisfy itself with sleeping in a blanket of dogma because being awake is too noisy with unanswerable questions.
 
OsO

OsO

Souldier
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
4,865
Reputation
1,045
Daps
11,167
Reppin
Harlem
They coexist.

Each individual has a plan/destiny/fate/etc, but all that adjusts with each decision you make.

Think in terms of probability. The future is a set of near infinite probabilities that begins to shape itself based on the moment-to-moment choices you make. And things start to crystalize and become "concrete" when your future becomes your present. But your future is constantly transforming.

People on this forum tend to give away their decision making power to an unknown entity in one shape or another, but the magnificent truth is that we all control our own lives.

People in the religious camp say it's all "God's will." Some people in the scientific camp say it's all chemical reactions and electrical impulses. Both sides missing the point that YOU choose what you do every moment.

You don't always get to choose what happens to you because other people have free will also, but you always have a choice in how you react to it.

Thought, feeling, action-the real holy trinity of creation.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top