IS IT REALLY "HARD" TO BECOME A SURGEON?

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Before we start, please remember, "hard" and "easy" are RELATIVE terms...

1) I understand from a social perspective it is hard to become a surgeon based on educational bureaucracy...

2) Let us put those barriers aside and say that we are in a hypothetical society with unlimited resources that are spread equitably among the people, what will make becoming a surgeon "hard" in this society?

3) Think about it, most people graduate high school at 18...Do an undergrad until 22...A typical medical school until 26...A general surgery residency at 30...

Why is this significant? Because there are other skills in this world that the average human being can never truly master if he/she starts training after the age of 25...

Try learning the piano or violin at age 25 and see how well you do...But most our surgeons start at about 25 and are still able to master surgery...

4) What does that tell you? Surgery is not relatively "harder" or "easier" than other skills that humans can acquire...

5) If you have interest, a sharp memory and psychomotor dexterity (like most average humans who are engaged in mental and physical activity), I don't see why somebody would neg rep me for stating that become a surgeon isn't as difficult as people make it seem to be...
 
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When you screw up learning an instrument, the worst that will probably happen is a bad review from a critic. Screwing up as a surgeon can put a life at risk. That is, rightfully so, a huge liability. Surgery isn't something you read about in a book and start doing, oopsing your way through school. You go through the process because the experience will help you when a situation comes up that is out of the ordinary and you only have moments to react.

There are multiple components in becoming a good surgeon, not just skill. That is why it generally takes years to become a good one.
 
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Bubba T said:
When you screw up learning an instrument, the worst that will probably happen is a bad review from a critic. Screwing up as a surgeon can put a life at risk. That is, rightfully so, a huge liability. Surgery isn't something you read about in a book and start doing, oopsing your way through school. You go through the process because the experience will help you when a situation comes up that is out of the ordinary and you only have moments to react.

There are multiple components in becoming a good surgeon, not just skill. That is why it generally takes years to become a good one.
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This. Personnaly I don't want no "self-taught" surgeon or whatever anywhere near me :camby:

You can't compare being a surgeon and playing an instrument OP, that's ludicrous. You cannot separate the technicality of being a surgeon and the fact that you have a human life between your hands. Imagine someone somehow indeed "theoretically" masters the technique to be a surgeon. That doesn't mean that they CAN be a surgeon, because now a human life depends on you. Not everyone is built for that.

Now before someone says "Yeah but surgeons screw up too", of course they do, they're human, but that's even more of a reason for them imo to go through extensive studies, trainings, etc before finally performing. Imagine how many screw ups there would be without that selection process.
 
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Is the op a cac :comeon:

Now cuz a black man is a surgeon, one of the best in the nation I might add u feel like anyone can do it... It's extremely hard, the book work of medicine alone is very difficult.
 
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Really it's all about time. Most people i would say have the ability to learn anything. It's just depends on the time and if they have the resources(which Is where school comes into play). Ppl could master things way faster if they actually TRIED and had a gameplan. I think it was Steve vai who practiced 6-8 hours of guitar a day. You do anything with that much persistence shyt would pay off.
 
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From wikipedia:

In 1987, Carson successfully separated conjoined twins, the Binder twins, who had been joined at the back of the head (craniopagus twins). The 70-member surgical team, led by Carson, worked for 22 hours. Both twins survived.

I'd like to see thread starter try that. (Actually no, I wouldn't want to actually see that).
 
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Scoop said:
From wikipedia:

In 1987, Carson successfully separated conjoined twins, the Binder twins, who had been joined at the back of the head (craniopagus twins). The 70-member surgical team, led by Carson, worked for 22 hours. Both twins survived.

I'd like to see thread starter try that. (Actually no, I wouldn't want to actually see that).
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ok but he had practice and years of training. Before all that he was just a person and not a surgeon. He learned that skill. Why couldn't anyone else?
 
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