Jay Z released moonlight video with ISSA RAE

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So you have a generation of black actors/comedians/creatives WISHING that they could be apart of a black "Friends" or "Seinfeld". But what they don't realize is that that type of humor is white by nature, targeted towards whites, about white experiences. So when the black entertainers try to mimic that format it comes off corny and not at all what they envisioned.

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Im not saying you are wrong but do you have any quotes of actors wishing they could be on Friends or Seinfeld instead of their own shows they were on at that time?

And you have me on ignore so somebody quote this so I can get an answer
 

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Double consciousness is a concept that Du Bois first explores in 1903 publication, “The Souls of Black Folk”. Double consciousness describes the individual sensation of feeling as though your identity is divided into several parts, making it difficult or impossible to have one unified identity.
 

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4:44 video has no meaning lol. Jay fired and MISSED with that one


Moonlight video is about the "awakening" of black consciousness when it comes to how we are portrayed in mainstream media and entertainment. There was a VERY good HBO movie that dropped in the mid 2000's called Dancing In September starring Nicole Ari Parker and Isiah Washington that went deeper into the concept.

Basically Hollywood has mostly portrayed Blacks in a negative light or HIGHLY c00nism or buffoonish. Think about Good Times, when the Producers pushed JJ's goofy ass over the family dynamic. Or something like Homeboys In Outer Space or countless examples I can name of. Whereas most the historically "prestige" sitcoms about white daily life have been met with unanimous praise and reviews while depicting multi-Faceted characters with arcs and growth.

So you have a generation of black actors/comedians/creatives WISHING that they could be apart of a black "Friends" or "Seinfeld". But what they don't realize is that that type of humor is white by nature, targeted towards whites, about white experiences. So when the black entertainers try to mimic that format it comes off corny and not at all what they envisioned.

Issa Rae and Jerrod Carmichael in REAL LIFE represent the rejection of the notion that you have to follow the white blueprint to attain success. Both Carmichael Show and Insecure are unabashedly "black" in the DNA of their storytelling.

That's why the basis for Jerrod "walking away" from his sitcom is a larger symptom of deep seated racism within the industry. The network only gave his show a 6 episode first season. It outperformed expectations. Then they only gave him a 13 episode 2nd season (when most sitcoms get 22) and the show STILL outperformed expectations. THEN they only gave him 13 episodes for a third, and he had to battle with them every step of the way to tell the story in an authentic way. The network put minimal marketing muscle behind it. And finally he said "fukk it" and walked away.

"Even when we win we gonna lose" is basically the Carmichael Show's ironic fate. It outperformed, was a critical success, but that still wasn't enough to give Carmichael the creative freedom to do as he chose.
Good analysis :ehh:

I don't know if he did it with the hook/song title but with Jerrod sitting on the bench and they gave an Oscar to La La Land it also plays into what you were saying. Moonlight was this critically acclaimed, must see movie but when it came down to it they gave Best Picture to some singing cacs (La La Land).
 

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4:44 video has no meaning lol. Jay fired and MISSED with that one


Moonlight video is about the "awakening" of black consciousness when it comes to how we are portrayed in mainstream media and entertainment. There was a VERY good HBO movie that dropped in the mid 2000's called Dancing In September starring Nicole Ari Parker and Isiah Washington that went deeper into the concept.

Basically Hollywood has mostly portrayed Blacks in a negative light or HIGHLY c00nism or buffoonish. Think about Good Times, when the Producers pushed JJ's goofy ass over the family dynamic. Or something like Homeboys In Outer Space or countless examples I can name of. Whereas most the historically "prestige" sitcoms about white daily life have been met with unanimous praise and reviews while depicting multi-Faceted characters with arcs and growth.

So you have a generation of black actors/comedians/creatives WISHING that they could be apart of a black "Friends" or "Seinfeld". But what they don't realize is that that type of humor is white by nature, targeted towards whites, about white experiences. So when the black entertainers try to mimic that format it comes off corny and not at all what they envisioned.

Issa Rae and Jerrod Carmichael in REAL LIFE represent the rejection of the notion that you have to follow the white blueprint to attain success. Both Carmichael Show and Insecure are unabashedly "black" in the DNA of their storytelling.

That's why the basis for Jerrod "walking away" from his sitcom is a larger symptom of deep seated racism within the industry. The network only gave his show a 6 episode first season. It outperformed expectations. Then they only gave him a 13 episode 2nd season (when most sitcoms get 22) and the show STILL outperformed expectations. THEN they only gave him 13 episodes for a third, and he had to battle with them every step of the way to tell the story in an authentic way. The network put minimal marketing muscle behind it. And finally he said "fukk it" and walked away.

"Even when we win we gonna lose" is basically the Carmichael Show's ironic fate. It outperformed, was a critical success, but that still wasn't enough to give Carmichael the creative freedom to do as he chose.

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Moonlight won Best Picture.

The presenter fukked up and said La La Land.


That smarmy fame seeking accountant from Ernst and Young fukked the whole thing up bc he was busy taking selfies backstage and he handed the wrong envelope off. :hhh::scust::pacspit: (It explicitly said in their contract they weren't allowed to do shyt like that :leostare:)

Then warren beaty and faye dunaway ancient asses didnt give a shyt enough to read the envelope said best ACTRESS emma stone and ask somebody :comeon::snoop:

Moonlight cast and crew didnt even get a chance to give a speech really, the oscar crew was busy trying to see if warren beatty was ok and let him explain himself :pacspit::martin::mjpls:

Anyways :salute: all the actors in the video (been a fan of Tessa Thompson since Copper on BBC America, rel as joey :mjlol:, jerrod acting is getting better :leon:, issa finally doing it big after years of development hell :win:, lakeith taking over :myman:, and tiffany getting shine too :youngsabo:. Special shoutout to Hannibal bc he thought Hov hated him :bryan:)

RocNation not playing with the rollout of 4:44:whew:. Somewhere Fab is crying that Jay jacked his current events rapping and ran with it :russ:
 

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Moonlight won Best Picture.

The presenter fukked up and said La La Land.


even when we win we gone lose

even tho moonlight won, they lost... they got their shine stolen and then when it was announced they really did won, they got the half ass "oh" type of applause and praise
 

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4:44 video has no meaning lol. Jay fired and MISSED with that one


Moonlight video is about the "awakening" of black consciousness when it comes to how we are portrayed in mainstream media and entertainment. There was a VERY good HBO movie that dropped in the mid 2000's called Dancing In September starring Nicole Ari Parker and Isiah Washington that went deeper into the concept.

Basically Hollywood has mostly portrayed Blacks in a negative light or HIGHLY c00nism or buffoonish. Think about Good Times, when the Producers pushed JJ's goofy ass over the family dynamic. Or something like Homeboys In Outer Space or countless examples I can name of. Whereas most the historically "prestige" sitcoms about white daily life have been met with unanimous praise and reviews while depicting multi-Faceted characters with arcs and growth.

So you have a generation of black actors/comedians/creatives WISHING that they could be apart of a black "Friends" or "Seinfeld". But what they don't realize is that that type of humor is white by nature, targeted towards whites, about white experiences. So when the black entertainers try to mimic that format it comes off corny and not at all what they envisioned.

Issa Rae and Jerrod Carmichael in REAL LIFE represent the rejection of the notion that you have to follow the white blueprint to attain success. Both Carmichael Show and Insecure are unabashedly "black" in the DNA of their storytelling.

That's why the basis for Jerrod "walking away" from his sitcom is a larger symptom of deep seated racism within the industry. The network only gave his show a 6 episode first season. It outperformed expectations. Then they only gave him a 13 episode 2nd season (when most sitcoms get 22) and the show STILL outperformed expectations. THEN they only gave him 13 episodes for a third, and he had to battle with them every step of the way to tell the story in an authentic way. The network put minimal marketing muscle behind it. And finally he said "fukk it" and walked away.

"Even when we win we gonna lose" is basically the Carmichael Show's ironic fate. It outperformed, was a critical success, but that still wasn't enough to give Carmichael the creative freedom to do as he chose.
You have any other breakdowns of the other videos?
 

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i've been thinking moonlight was touching on his thoughts about kanye...this video makes me think so more...

was that the friend from get out?
 
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