Liberal (Trudeau/Canada) Government Report Card

Maschine_Man

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you're getting all capslock angry but i'm the emotional one. ahhh, kids these days. :mjlol:

you obviously have nothing but a "trudeau hands terrorist suitcase of cash", right-wing, clickbait headline depth of knowledge about the subject. if you wanna be mad at someone, it should be the harper government. they were the ones in charge, they were complicit in the rights violations, they lost in ligation, they set the precedent for the payout.

or if that doesn't work for you, blame the canadian charter of rights and freedoms and the supreme court of canada.
see now you are just proving you are a blind liberal and are listening to this BS rhetoric and deflection "b-b-b-but it was Harper and the Conservatives"

nah bruh, Khadr was caught in 2002, guess who was in power ? when did Harper even get elected?? 2006....?? So the Liberals (Chretien and Martin) were in power for 4 years, and didn't do shyt, but now it all falls on Harper huh?



Also, I'm glad you brought up the SCC, cause this further shows me that you aren't really following along and paying attention ,and are just listening to Trudeau and his cronies peddle more lies.


Howard Anglin: Trudeau is making Omar Khadr rich, and he still hasn’t told us why

The Liberal government’s decision to pay Omar Khadr $10.5 million was a political choice and until the government offers a coherent explanation—why now? why so much?—it deserves the skepticism and suspicion it’s received.

Until last week, Khadr’s $20 million lawsuit against the Canadian government had been proceeding slowly along the long path to judicial resolution—a path it’d been on for more than a decade. There was no court order requiring payment and the government could have continued defending the claim for years to come. That’s why reports of a sudden settlement caught everyone by surprise.

Everyone, that is, except the prime minister. Asked about the $10.5 million payout during his visit to Ireland, Trudeau made it sound as inevitable and ineluctable as the turning of the tides: “We are anticipating,” he said, “like I think a number of people are, that that judicial process is coming to its conclusion.”

Of course he was anticipating it. Despite the passive detachment of his answer, the payout was the prime minister’s decision. He would have approved the settlement, either expressly or tacitly, and certainly could have stopped it. The Attorney General doesn’t settle a high profile and politically incendiary case without signal checking with the PMO.

In the absence of any explanation from the government, media outlets filled the vacuum. Most justifications have focused on the 2008 and 2010 decisions of the Supreme Court of Canada, which held that Canadian officials had been to some degree complicit in the mistreatment of Khadr when they visited him in Guantanamo Bay in 2003 and 2004. A CBC headline summarized this defence succinctly: “Why will Omar Khadr receive $10.5M? Because the Supreme Court ruled his rights were violated.”

Well, no, that’s not how civil lawsuits work. The Supreme Court said nothing about financial compensation. The furthest the Supreme Court ever went was to hold that “the appropriate remedy is to declare that, on the record before the Court, Canada infringed Mr. Khadr’s s. 7 rights, and to leave it to the government to decide how best to respond to this judgment.”
At the time, the specific remedy Khadr sought was repatriation, which the government of the day duly granted
. That government believed that Canada had satisfied any outstanding obligations to Khadr when it brought him home to serve the rest of his custodial sentence in Canada. If Khadr was owed further compensation at all, it was from the Americans and not Canadian taxpayers.

Khadr’s best case for a further remedy was to prove in court that Canada had conspired with the Americans in his alleged mistreatment and that we are therefore liable along with them. He has not done this.

It is quite possible that Trudeau was advised by the Attorney General that, given the risk of a higher ultimate judgment and the costs of continued litigation, a $10.5 million settlement was as good as the government could hope for. If so, Trudeau could have just said that. Many Canadians might still object to the settlement on principle, or believe the government caved prematurely, but at least it would be an explanation.

Other commentators have defended the settlement by comparing it to the case of Maher Arar, to whom Canada apologized and paid $10.5 million in 2007. But the two cases are fundamentally different; if anything, the comparison raises questions about the size of the Khadr settlement.

In Arar’s case, a formal Commission of Inquiry found that Arar had been deported to Syria, where he was tortured, as a direct result of faulty information provided to the United States by the RCMP. Specifically, the inquiry found that “[t]he RCMP provided American authorities with information about Mr. Arar that was inaccurate, portrayed him in an unfairly negative fashion and overstated his importance in the RCMP investigation.”

In Khadr’s case, by contrast, Canada played no part in his capture in Afghanistan or his subsequent alleged mistreatment in Guantanamo Bay. Canada’s responsibility is at best attenuated and our liability far from clear, yet we are paying him the same sum as Arar, $10.5 million.

Governments don’t make confessed killers rich without a reason. By failing to provide one, Trudeau leaves himself open to the suspicion that he privately sides with those credulous Khadr sympathizers who accept his most lurid allegations of mistreatment while dismissing the inconvenient facts of his conviction, confession and apparently sincere apology to Sgt. Speer’s widow.

Until Trudeau provides a better explanation and makes clear his positions on Khadr’s guilt and Canada’s responsibility, it’s a reasonable suspicion.
 

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"b-b-but what about chretien! you're a blind liberal for blaming harper! it's all trudeau's fault!" :mjlol:here, let me post an article from a conservative paper written by stephen harper's former chief of staff. :mjlol::mjlol:


goddamn son...you are fukking shameless. :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:
 

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"b-b-but what about chretien! you're a blind liberal for blaming harper! it's all trudeau's fault!" :mjlol:here, let me post an article from a conservative paper written by stephen harper's former chief of staff. :mjlol::mjlol:


goddamn son...you are fukking shameless. :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:
and yet....you can't deny any of it.

you are a completely disingenuous person, or you are just intentionally blind to facts bruh.

you still haven't addressed anything with facts or proof.

I'll be waiting for you to post something with any merit. but like your puppet leader, I'm sure it ain't happening.
 

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and yet....you can't deny any of it.

you are a completely disingenuous person, or you are just intentionally blind to facts bruh.

you still haven't addressed anything with facts or proof.

I'll be waiting for you to post something with any merit. but like your puppet leader, I'm sure it ain't happening.

you didn't come with facts, proof or merit...you posted an op-ed written by stephen harper's homeboy you fukking clown.

the moment the scc ruled in favor of khadr (which they did multiple times), a pay-out was inevitable. precedent had already been set. so instead losing another dragged out, expensive legal battle again, and paying full damages, the government moved to settle, justice approved...and here we are.

the harper government didn't do their job protecting khadr's rights, the conservatives didn't repatriate him even after the us asked canada to take him home, spent tons of money losing against khadr's lawyers and fighting his bail, they kept kicking the can down the road knowing the next government is gonna have to deal with it. trudeau inherited this shytstorm. i don't like him much either but i'm not gonna pin this shyt on trudeau like you corny right-wing hacks.

and yes, khadr was first captured and held when chretien and then martin were in power. however, the high court rulings didn't come down during their time. so, there's that.
 

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you didn't come with facts, proof or merit...you posted an op-ed written by stephen harper's homeboy you fukking clown.

the moment the scc ruled in favor of khadr (which they did multiple times), a pay-out was inevitable. precedent had already been set. so instead losing another dragged out, expensive legal battle again, and paying full damages, the government moved to settle, justice approved...and here we are.

the harper government didn't do their job protecting khadr's rights, the conservatives didn't repatriate him even after the us asked canada to take him home, spent tons of money losing against khadr's lawyers and fighting his bail, they kept kicking the can down the road knowing the next government is gonna have to deal with it. trudeau inherited this shytstorm. i don't like him much either but i'm not gonna pin this shyt on trudeau like you corny right-wing hacks.

and yes, khadr was first captured and held when chretien and then martin were in power. however, the high court rulings didn't come down during their time. so, there's that.
lol..so there's that. he was sitting in Gitmo for 4 years and they didn't do shyt to get him back...

but yea...there's THAT.


precedent? the SCC ruled in favor...of what though?

why rush to pay this out before going through the process?

and save it with the "right wing hacks" BS bruh.

Trudeau is a lying ass scumbag, no different than the rest.....in fact he might be worse cuz he's fukking with many ppl's future by being so loose with tax payer money, and being extremely carefree in his dealings with rules and regulations.

let's not even forget the fact that he has pretty much back tracked on most of the shyt he got elected on.


election reform?
transparent govt?
no more pay for play?
going from a "small" deficit to tripling that and having nothing to show for it?
increasing the middle class by lowering taxes?? lies
being more active and involved in indigenous issues?



is there anything he's done besides photo ops and showing off his socks?


why because he waves a pride flag and prays at mosques he so "diverse" and "open" and "hip"

because he's an open "feminist" ?
 

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had to fix that. :hubie:

people getting mad at trudeau for the omar khadr thing is fukking retarded though.

fukk Trudeau. I'll blame him for the sky being blue. Unfortunately I see him doing another term.

Khadr should have been executed on the spot. would have saved us $10million

Shout out to my nikka Duterte, Shout out to my nikka kim jong-un
 

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I don't follow Canadian domestic politics like that, but the hype surrounding this dude was so cringey I knew he couldn't be the real deal. If his last name wasn't Trudeau, he'd be nobody.
 

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fukk Trudeau. I'll blame him for the sky being blue. Unfortunately I see him doing another term.

Khadr should have been executed on the spot. would have saved us $10million

Shout out to my nikka Duterte, Shout out to my nikka kim jong-un
Can't wait until Trudeau opens up a military prison somewhere on the atlantic coast of Canada and signs indefinite detention into law like Obama did. :troll:
 

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I don't follow Canadian domestic politics like that, but the hype surrounding this dude was so cringey I knew he couldn't be the real deal. If his last name wasn't Trudeau, he'd be nobody.
He's a complete imbecile.
 
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