Majority of Trump supporters voting against their interests appreciation :mjgrin:

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The Opinion Pages | OP-ED COLUMNIST
Populism, Real and Phony



Paul Krugman DEC. 23, 2016

Authoritarians with an animus against ethnic minorities are on the march across the Western world. They control governments in Hungary and Poland, and will soon take power in America. And they’re organizing across borders: Austria’s Freedom Party, founded by former Nazis, has signed an agreement with Russia’s ruling party — and met with Donald Trump’s choice for national security adviser.

But what should we call these groups? Many reporters are using the term “populist,” which seems both inadequate and misleading. I guess racism can be considered populist in the sense that it represents the views of some non-elite people. But are the other shared features of this movement — addiction to conspiracy theories, indifference to the rule of law, a penchant for punishing critics — really captured by the “populist” label?

Still, the European members of this emerging alliance — an axis of evil? — have offered some real benefits to workers. Hungary’s Fidesz party has provided mortgage relief and pushed down utility prices. Poland’s Law and Justice party has increased child benefits, raised the minimum wage and reduced the retirement age. France’s National Front is running as a defender of that nation’s extensive welfare state — but only for the right people.

Trumpism is, however, different. The campaign rhetoric may have included promises to keep Medicare and Social Security intact and replace Obamacare with something “terrific.” But the emerging policy agenda is anything but populist.

All indications are that we’re looking at huge windfalls for billionaires combined with savage cuts in programs that serve not just the poor but also the middle class. And the white working class, which provided much of the 46 percent Trump vote share, is shaping up as the biggest loser.

True, we don’t yet have detailed policy proposals. But Mr. Trump’s cabinet choices show which way the wind is blowing.
Both his pick as budget director and his choice to head Health and Human Services want to dismantle the Affordable Care Act and privatize Medicare. His choice as labor secretary is a fast-food tyc00n who has been a vociferous opponent both of Obamacare and of minimum wage hikes. And House Republicans have already submitted plans for drastic cuts in Social Security, including a sharp rise in the retirement age.

What would these policies do? Obamacare led to big declines in the number of the uninsured in regions that voted Trump this year, and repealing it would undo all those gains. The nonpartisan Urban Institute estimates that repeal would cause 30 million Americans — 16 million of them non-Hispanic whites — to lose health coverage.

And no, there won’t be a “terrific” replacement: Republican plans would cover only a fraction as many people as the law they would displace, and they’d be different people — younger, healthier and richer.

Converting Medicare into a voucher system would also amount to a severe benefit cut, partly because it would lead to lower government spending, partly because a significant fraction of spending would be diverted into the overhead and profits of private insurance companies. And raising the retirement age for Social Security would hit especially hard among Americans whose life expectancy has stagnated or declined, or who have disabilities that make it hard for them to continue working — problems that are strongly correlated with Trump votes.

In other words, the movement that’s about to take power here isn’t the same as Europe’s far-right movements. It may share their racism and contempt for democracy; but European populism is at least partly real, while Trumpist populism is turning out to be entirely fake, a scam sold to working-class voters who are in for a rude awakening. Will the new regime pay a political price?

Well, don’t count on it. This epic bait-and-switch, this betrayal of supporters, certainly offers Democrats a political opportunity. But you know that there will be huge efforts to shift the blame. These will include claims that the collapse of health care is really President Obama’s fault; claims that the failure of alternatives is somehow the fault of recalcitrant Democrats; and an endless series of attempts to distract the public.

Expect more Carrier-style stunts that don’t actually help workers but dominate a news cycle. Expect lots of fulmination against minorities. And it’s worth remembering what authoritarian regimes traditionally do to shift attention from failing policies, namely, find some foreigners to confront. Maybe it will be a trade war with China, maybe something worse.

Opponents need to do all they can to defeat such strategies of distraction. Above all, they shouldn’t let themselves be sucked into cooperation that leaves them sharing part of the blame. The perpetrators of this scam should be forced to own it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/opinion/populism-real-and-phony.html?_r=0

I know there have probably been threads like this already :mjgrin:
Hopefully there will be more to come :mjgrin:
Most of his supporters that are negatively affected will likely be too dense to realize they shot themselves in the foot :snoop:
Then again, many wont even mind as long as they have the satisfaction of knowing that minorities will suffer too :mjpls:
and that they took their country back from that muslim Obama :mjpls:

chumps :mjlol:
 

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This would be funny and gratifying if black ppl weren't going to suffer x3
ehh. suffering under an american political administration wont be anything new to black people :yeshrug:

please elaborate some more on how you believe poorer & working class black people will suffer 3x more than poorer and working class white people...
aside from the obvious police brutality/court room racism and higher degree of difficulty finding employment despite being qualified
 

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:comeon: because the majority of Obama voters got their Change they can beleive in?

:comeon: Bush jr voters got their security and economic stability
and so on

Paul Krugman is a liberal dyckrider establishment toadie with as much perception as a drunk bat

lest we forget...heres his prediction from 1998




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LOL. These people trying to tell us what our interests are. We know, you don't.
I wrote "majority" in the thread title, if the shoe dont fit then dont worry about it :yeshrug:

:comeon: because the majority of Obama voters got their Change they can beleive in?

:comeon: Bush jr voters got their security and economic stability
and so on
Never said any other candidate or administration was holier than the upcoming one :hubie:But this go round much of his supporters def went blatantly against their own benefit
 

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LOL. These people trying to tell us what our interests are. We know, you don't.

Another terrible article from the NY Slimes.
having an opinion is useless when you don't know anything.

So yeah, some of you...and by that, I mean damn near all of you, really don't know what your interests REALLY are.
 

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Pilots have credentials, training and experience - they go to flight school, theyre required to do certain amount of flight hours before theyre allowed to pilot commercial jets etc. this is a less than stellar meme

what credentials does trump have in the area of government..? :jbhmm:
what exactly is his education background?:patrice:
and what prior experience does he have with diplomacy, international government relations, public sector management etc? :lupe:
 

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Pilots have credentials, training and experience - they go to flight school, theyre required to do certain amount of flight hours before theyre allowed to pilot commercial jets etc. this is a less than stellar meme

what credentials does trump have in the area of government..? :jbhmm:
what exactly is his education background?:patrice:
and what prior experience does he have with diplomacy, international government relations, public sector management etc? :lupe:

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Pilots have credentials, training and experience - they go to flight school, theyre required to do certain amount of flight hours before theyre allowed to pilot commercial jets etc. this is a less than stellar meme

what credentials does trump have in the area of government..? :jbhmm:
what exactly is his education background?:patrice:
and what prior experience does he have with diplomacy, international government relations, public sector management etc? :lupe:
I'm confused. Did you mean to agree with what you quoted or did you mean to disagree?
 
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