Malaysian Airplane shot down on the Russia/Ukraine border today

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

There is video footage of the plane crashing to the ground without any smoke on it/trailing it before the impact. That's what the talk is about, stay focused breh

do you know how AA missiles work?

This isn't the movies fam. shyt doesn't just look like top-gun.

Its either heat seeking, where it targets an engine OR it explodes in proximity OR is a kinetic kill.

EITHER WAY, you can't resolve if it was a hit or not.

Go youtube videos of planes that are shot down. Theres not huge black flames coming out the back. These hits aren't always on the same part of plane.

You're being unreasonable right now.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

dont need to view of missile impact, but would expect views of debris descending to the ground if the plane was hit at 33K feet in some of the clips released

not ruling out the missile possibility, just with the vids presented thus far, one could argue crash vs being shot down

Its a missile.

the plane is moving at high speed and there is a wide range of debris over a vast area indicative of an in-air break up.

 

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The video doesn't show any fire before the plane impacted the ground, no trace of smoke, nothing. So it's very unlikely it was a missile if you look at the video of the crash

He doesn't say it's not a missile, but we should not jump to conclusions as the video shows no evidence of a missile impact at all

On BBC and even CNN there are videos of debris falling from the sky, there was definitely an explosion in the air before ground impact.
Russia definitely overplayed its filthy hands. The russian mercenaries claimed to have downed a plane today most likely thinking it was a Ukrainian military plane. If current world leaders weren't such puxxies, a multinational force would have been descending on eastern Ukraine to purge the russian mercenaries.

 

[Olu Dara]

do you know how AA missiles work?

This isn't the movies fam. shyt doesn't just look like top-gun.

Its either heat seeking, where it targets an engine OR it explodes in proximity OR is a kinetic kill.

EITHER WAY, you can't resolve if it was a hit or not.

Go youtube videos of planes that are shot down. Theres not huge black flames coming out the back. These hits aren't always on the same part of plane.

You're being unreasonable right now.

I'm not being unreasonable at all breh, I'm not saying it's not a missile. I'm saying it's too early to know and the video shows no signs of a fire before the crash. You are being unreasonable by jumping to conclusions without any evidence yet

 

[Olu Dara]

On BBC and even CNN there are videos of debris falling from the sky, there was definitely an explosion in the air before ground impact.
Russia definitely overplayed its filthy hands. The russian mercenaries claimed to have downed a plane today most likely thinking it was a Ukrainian military plane. If current world leaders weren't such puxxies, a multinational force would have been descending on eastern Ukraine to purge the russian mercenaries.

And cnn said it most likely was debris that flew up in the sky after the explosion of the ground impact

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

nikka just shut the fukk up. You posting in here like anything you say is anywhere near the truth. fukking dumb ass Yankee retard. Go watch Fox news.

which is why the CIA knew about the kuala lampur meeting but institutional limitations prevented them sharing intel with the FBI?

The degrees of bureaucratic flaws explain 9/11 far more than a nefarious black flag attack.

Do better.

 

[superunknown23]

I'm an aerospace engineer and this has ALL the signs of a classic surface-to-air missile attack

 

[Olu Dara]

I'm an aerospace engineer and this has ALL the signs of a classic surface-to-air missile attack

Thanks for the info, what are the signs

 

[Uncle_Ruckus]

which is why the CIA knew about the kuala lampur meeting but institutional limitations prevented them sharing intel with the FBI?

The degrees of bureaucratic flaws explain 9/11 far more than a nefarious black flag attack.

Do better.

I would NEVER debate 9/11 with a retard that looks at a picture with no dead bodies and says that there are dead bodies in it. You one of them American patriotic flag wavers that praise the Bush Admin. FOH. Go debate your theory on FOX and CNN with the rest of them retarded tea party republicans. No logic.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm not being unreasonable at all breh, I'm not saying it's not a missile. I'm saying it's too early to know and the video shows no signs of a fire before the crash. You are being unreasonable by jumping to conclusions without any evidence yet

1. region that has been shooting down military planes like duck hunting in the past months. TWO PLANES THIS WEEK got shot down
2. several videos have been taken of planes being shot down in the past few months in the same area AFTER being hit
3. Theres plenty of evidence. Governments don't leap to this sort of accusation LIGHTLY. That tells you all you need to know.
4. clear evidence of russian AA weapons massing at the border
5. there wouldn't be a fire before the crash. You wouldn't fukking see it from MILES away. Its a plane thats flying. Do you have eagle eyes or something we don't know?
6. A RUSSIAN SEPARATIST BRAGGED ABOUT IT BEFORE HE KNEW IT WAS A PASSENGER PLANE!!!

 

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And cnn said it most likely was debris that flew up in the sky after the explosion of the ground impact

No, what they said was that they might be debris that flew upwards after the plane exploded in the air, therefore making their fall time slower than the main plane

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Subscribe to Fp if you're in to foreign affairs has a lot of great coverage.

you already know....i usually only go there to read Tom Ricks though

 

[Olu Dara]

http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

On BBC and even CNN there are videos of debris falling from the sky, there was definitely an explosion in the air before ground impact.
Russia definitely overplayed its filthy hands. The russian mercenaries claimed to have downed a plane today most likely thinking it was a Ukrainian military plane. If current world leaders weren't such puxxies, a multinational force would have been descending on eastern Ukraine to purge the russian mercenaries.

Geopolitics boils down to leaders who have balls and dont, huh? Fascinating observation.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm an aerospace engineer and this has ALL the signs of a classic surface-to-air missile attack

Drop that knowledge.

nikkas are playing the "oh its the USA CIA at it again" bullshyt.

I'm tired of these fukk boys.

The world ain't all sweet and nikkas gotta understand that.