N.W.A. VS. Public Enemy

[Methodical]

flav didn't embody the overall image of PE so it didn't matter imo.

All I'm saying is that PE were political as fu*k but somehow the white man knew about Flava Flav cause he's weakness and they gave him a lot of money to doing the reality shows (Flavor Flav and Brigitte Nielsen Strange Love and Flava of Love and I Love New York, etc) So, basically the PE legacy isn't the same so now a lot of people know more about Flava Flav more than PE. I bet you many people knows more NWA songs than PE songs. If you mention any PE songs and they wouldn't know what the f*ck you talk about til you mention PE's name so they gonna "Oh PE and Flava Flav".

 

[Dr.HannibalLecter]

Nah homie, if the group was disbanding, then you can't include Eazy Duz It; if that's true, you gotta include Cube's first 2 albums too...

Eazy-Duz-It came out in '88

 

[The Real]

PE, easily. Nation of Millions is one of the greatest hip-hop albums of all time, period. The production, which at the time was fresh and broke a lot of new ground (can't say the same for NWA,) the lyrics, the flows, the overall aesthetic, the power of Chuck D's voice (almost no one has a voice as commanding as his,) and the list goes on.

 

[kp404]

Eazy-Duz-It came out in '88

True, but its still a solo...

 

[The_Hillsta]

PE easily. "Can't Truss It" is my favorite song of all time.

Fred.

And the video was just....

 

[Drew Wonder]

PE, easily. Nation of Millions is one of the greatest hip-hop albums of all time, period. The production, which at the time was fresh and broke a lot of new ground (can't say the same for NWA,) the lyrics, the flows, the overall aesthetic, the power of Chuck D's voice (almost no one has a voice as commanding as his,) and the list goes on.

I actually like PE more than NWA but let's not downplay NWA's production. nikkaz4Life is one of, if not the best produced albums in hip hop. the mixing, quality, layering, etc. were incredible and Dre really brought an element of perfectionism to the hip hop production game with that album.

 

[ArchStanton]

N4L is almost flawlessly produced, but the lyrics are about getting sucked off, killing hookers, being "dangerous", and the like. Ren is solid on the album but it's a steep fall from there. It's still an entertaining record but can't come close to overcoming the loss of Ice Cube.

Public Enemy is still putting out solid, quality albums. Their discography destroys NWA.

Then we have the best of both worlds with Cube's first album and EP. Classics.

 

[hex]

All I'm saying is that PE were political as fu*k but somehow the white man knew about Flava Flav cause he's weakness and they gave him a lot of money to doing the reality shows (Flavor Flav and Brigitte Nielsen Strange Love and Flava of Love and I Love New York, etc) So, basically the PE legacy isn't the same so now a lot of people know more about Flava Flav more than PE. I bet you many people knows more NWA songs than PE songs. If you mention any PE songs and they wouldn't know what the f*ck you talk about til you mention PE's name so they gonna "Oh PE and Flava Flav".

More people know NWA than PE songs because NWA was talking about slanging dope and gangster shyt and PE was talking about slavery and killing politicians. Let's keep it 100.

Fred.

 

[The Real]

I actually like PE more than NWA but let's not downplay NWA's production. nikkaz4Life is one of, if not the best produced albums in hip hop. the mixing, quality, layering, etc. were incredible and Dre really brought an element of perfectionism to the hip hop production game with that album.

It's a well-produced album for sure, but I personally wouldn't call the production revolutionary. Russell Simmons didn't even want to sign PE at first because he thought their production was too far outside the norm to sell. Rick Rubin had to convince him that it would work. That's how new what they were doing was at the time.

 

[The_Hillsta]

You gotta love hip hop, gotta love this rap sh1t, as a hip hop fan gotta love or at least respect what PE is STILL bringin to the table. Peep the imagery, and how they're payin homage to not only hip hop but past and present historical icons.......

This video is so muthafvckin dope, the sh1t just makes you feel good!

 

[hex]

You gotta love hip hop, gotta love this rap sh1t, as a hip hop fan gotta love or at least respect what PE is STILL bringin to the table. Peep the imagery, and how they're payin homage to not only hip hop but past and present historical icons.......

This video is so muthafvckin dope, the sh1t just makes you feel good!

Public Enemy - Say it like it really is 2011 MUSIC VIDEO - YouTube

Never heard that song. Was dope.

Bomb Squad no longer exists but after that Killer Mike/El-p album I would pay for an El-p produced PE album.

Fred.

 

[The_Hillsta]

Never heard that song. Was dope.

Bomb Squad no longer exists but after that Killer Mike/El-p album I would pay for an El-p produced PE album.

Fred.

Yeah, its off the new album. Just dropped last week if I'm not mistaken.

 

[semicko82]

And the video was just....

Public Enemy - Can't Truss It - YouTube

this shyt was so jamming. we need another group like public enemy in these days and times.

 

[thaKEAF]

Chuck D just followed me on Twitter.

 

[THE K-MAN]

straight outta compton >

Cut it out!