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You telling me Jacoby Brissett would've even sniffed a good contract with these numbers; 3,498-13-7. He had it harder given that he got traded and had to play immediately with no time to sit like Jimmy G. The Colts are a worse team then the 9ers with a lame duck coach so he couldn't do much to lift them but he was solid and showed signs. If he was a free agent he'd get a shyt contract.

We've seen Brock get paid off mediocre play. I believe he had 5tds 6ints. Matt Flynn was caking off one game. It's whiteness more than it is on the field play. I understand Jimmy G has promise but that's an insane amount of money for someone with a minimal resume.
We lawst to the Colts breh. We we're trash. Brissett had a good game too. Our team is just as bad as them......until the gawd got under center:Hubbygrapp:

Brock made his money off the strength of that defense in Denver and the Texans being desperate asf. He never elevated that team. The same for Matt Flynn. Guwop was highly sought after by Shanahan himself during the draft. I think he knows that he found his guy.
 

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Comparing Jimmy Garoppolo's 2017 to Colin Kaepernick's final five games in 2016


Colin Kaepernick last five full games in 2016:
  • 64.6 completion percentage on 164 attempts
  • 1,093 passing yards for 9 TD, 2 INT and passer rating of 96.9
  • 27 rushes for 188 yards and 1 TD
Jimmy Garoppolo last five full games in 2017:
  • 67.1 completion percentage on 176 attempts
  • 1,542 passing yards for 6 TD, 5 INT and passer rating of 94.0
  • 14 rushes for 7 yards and 1 TD
Garoppolo entered those games with no pressure to save the team or their season. Essentially, all of his starts were in garbage time. Meanwhile, Kaepernick was playing under immense stress brought on by the scrutiny of a nation full of people who all seemed to have an opinion about the kind of football player he was, the kind of person he was and the kind of American he was.

He was already realizing his time in San Francisco was coming to an end. After all, Kaepernick had watched that very franchise give up on a 44-19-1 head coach who’d led the team to a Super Bowl two seasons prior. If Jim Harbaugh hadn’t been worth their time and aggravation, by the end of last season, Kaep would’ve been crazy to think he would be.

Those were the circumstances he was dealing with – one of the most toxic environments in the NFL – when he put together 9 passing touchdowns to 2 interceptions in his final five games.

If Kaepernick had played his last two NFL seasons under a decent head coach rather than Jim Tomsula (now a defensive line coach in Washington) and Chip Kelly (now back in college football where he belongs), would he have been able to win those five games against the Bears, Texans, Titans, Jaguars and the Rams’ backups? Of course he could have. The evidence is all there.

When the team and the coaching was great, so was Kaepernick. And when the team had given up on him and on themselves, he was still pretty damned good. It’s insulting to pretend like the 49ers were the Browns or the Texans, suffering mercilessly while bad quarterbacks cycled through their starting lineup like the world’s crappiest parade. They needed better general managing and a real head coach, not a new QB.

Comparing Jimmy Garoppolo's 2017 to Colin Kaepernick's final five games in 2016
 

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This argument is really tired.. unless you've watched the majority of each of those games, you can't make a real comparison.

On top of that, Kap played with the same pressure that Jimmy did. Extra scrutiny did not add more pressure on him, especially considering how bad he was the year before.

I do think some of the coaches that tried to tinker with his delivery and the remedial offense he was forced to run, affected him overall.

But the things we saw from Jimmy G are franchise QB traits. Mainly, his precision (more than completion %), his quick release, and his ability to feel pressure and make plays (something that was a weakness for Kap). It's always a risk when signing a guy to big money after a small sample size of games, but the thiings Jimmy G has shown, are the types of things that aren't the type of things that will be eliminated once teams have more tape on him.
 

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Comparing Jimmy Garoppolo's 2017 to Colin Kaepernick's final five games in 2016


Colin Kaepernick last five full games in 2016:



    • 64.6 completion percentage on 164 attempts
    • 1,093 passing yards for 9 TD, 2 INT and passer rating of 96.9
    • 27 rushes for 188 yards and 1 TD
Jimmy Garoppolo last five full games in 2017:



    • 67.1 completion percentage on 176 attempts
    • 1,542 passing yards for 6 TD, 5 INT and passer rating of 94.0
    • 14 rushes for 7 yards and 1 TD
Garoppolo entered those games with no pressure to save the team or their season. Essentially, all of his starts were in garbage time. Meanwhile, Kaepernick was playing under immense stress brought on by the scrutiny of a nation full of people who all seemed to have an opinion about the kind of football player he was, the kind of person he was and the kind of American he was.

He was already realizing his time in San Francisco was coming to an end. After all, Kaepernick had watched that very franchise give up on a 44-19-1 head coach who’d led the team to a Super Bowl two seasons prior. If Jim Harbaugh hadn’t been worth their time and aggravation, by the end of last season, Kaep would’ve been crazy to think he would be.

Those were the circumstances he was dealing with – one of the most toxic environments in the NFL – when he put together 9 passing touchdowns to 2 interceptions in his final five games.

If Kaepernick had played his last two NFL seasons under a decent head coach rather than Jim Tomsula (now a defensive line coach in Washington) and Chip Kelly (now back in college football where he belongs), would he have been able to win those five games against the Bears, Texans, Titans, Jaguars and the Rams’ backups? Of course he could have. The evidence is all there.

When the team and the coaching was great, so was Kaepernick. And when the team had given up on him and on themselves, he was still pretty damned good. It’s insulting to pretend like the 49ers were the Browns or the Texans, suffering mercilessly while bad quarterbacks cycled through their starting lineup like the world’s crappiest parade. They needed better general managing and a real head coach, not a new QB.

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Compare a players last season with a team to a younger players first 5 games with a team after a trade brehs.
 

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This argument is really tired.. unless you've watched the majority of each of those games, you can't make a real comparison.

On top of that, Kap played with the same pressure that Jimmy did. Extra scrutiny did not add more pressure on him, especially considering how bad he was the year before.

I do think some of the coaches that tried to tinker with his delivery and the remedial offense he was forced to run, affected him overall.

But the things we saw from Jimmy G are franchise QB traits. Mainly, his precision (more than completion %), his quick release, and his ability to feel pressure and make plays (something that was a weakness for Kap). It's always a risk when signing a guy to big money after a small sample size of games, but the things Jimmy G has shown, are the types of things that aren't the type of things that will be eliminated once teams have more tape on him.
1-11, same roster except swapping the QB goes 5-0 with 2 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives.

Watch the game with your eyes not the stat sheet brehs. It was visible and tangible.
 

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:wtf: are you cool with this shyt?

of course it's an ITWAN, but we have a shyt ton of cap room, the deal is front loaded, and we don't have to play the franchising QB game a la the Washington Football team every year.

I did like what I saw from him in the 5 games, so I believe in him. The deal is bullshyt though because no way would a black QB even with the same stats get a deal like that. :yeshrug:

Of course it's dat privilege. But again, that's our QB and I see the potential. He was beasting with subpar WRs without training camp and extended time with the team.

GGKTA

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of course it's an ITWAN, but we have a shyt ton of cap room, the deal is front loaded, and we don't have to play the franchising QB game a la the Washington Football team every year.

I did like what I saw from him in the 5 games, so I believe in him. The deal is bullshyt though because no way would a black QB even with the same stats get a deal like that. :yeshrug:

Of course it's dat privilege. But again, that's our QB and I see the potential. He was beasting with subpar WRs without training camp and extended time with the team.

GGKTA

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Comparing Jimmy Garoppolo's 2017 to Colin Kaepernick's final five games in 2016


Colin Kaepernick last five full games in 2016:



    • 64.6 completion percentage on 164 attempts
    • 1,093 passing yards for 9 TD, 2 INT and passer rating of 96.9
    • 27 rushes for 188 yards and 1 TD
Jimmy Garoppolo last five full games in 2017:



    • 67.1 completion percentage on 176 attempts
    • 1,542 passing yards for 6 TD, 5 INT and passer rating of 94.0
    • 14 rushes for 7 yards and 1 TD
Garoppolo entered those games with no pressure to save the team or their season. Essentially, all of his starts were in garbage time. Meanwhile, Kaepernick was playing under immense stress brought on by the scrutiny of a nation full of people who all seemed to have an opinion about the kind of football player he was, the kind of person he was and the kind of American he was.

He was already realizing his time in San Francisco was coming to an end. After all, Kaepernick had watched that very franchise give up on a 44-19-1 head coach who’d led the team to a Super Bowl two seasons prior. If Jim Harbaugh hadn’t been worth their time and aggravation, by the end of last season, Kaep would’ve been crazy to think he would be.

Those were the circumstances he was dealing with – one of the most toxic environments in the NFL – when he put together 9 passing touchdowns to 2 interceptions in his final five games.

If Kaepernick had played his last two NFL seasons under a decent head coach rather than Jim Tomsula (now a defensive line coach in Washington) and Chip Kelly (now back in college football where he belongs), would he have been able to win those five games against the Bears, Texans, Titans, Jaguars and the Rams’ backups? Of course he could have. The evidence is all there.

When the team and the coaching was great, so was Kaepernick. And when the team had given up on him and on themselves, he was still pretty damned good. It’s insulting to pretend like the 49ers were the Browns or the Texans, suffering mercilessly while bad quarterbacks cycled through their starting lineup like the world’s crappiest parade. They needed better general managing and a real head coach, not a new QB.

Comparing Jimmy Garoppolo's 2017 to Colin Kaepernick's final five games in 2016

Breh, we already had this argument. You aren’t being nothing new to the table. This argument is trite and lacks all context. Jimmy G is a better qb period.
 
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