NPR: Discrimination in USA temp industry; Illegals preferred over black citizens; Update: Gov't sues

[Bugatti Biceps]

there will always be a segment of our society that prefers working with their hands and there is nothing wrong with that. throughout the 50s, 60s, and 70s many AA men were able to support their families and live decent lives with these inner-city blue-collar jobs.

Yes, those were trade and union jobs. nikkas didn't want to pay into the union and folks think they are above trade jobs while flipping burgers, which makes no fukking sense to me. nikkas don't want to put in the time to become an electrician or a pipe-fitter, aka, the shyt you can't pay an illegal to do due to unions and permits and all of that shyt. nikkas want the job where they throw some drywall up, swing a hammer for a bit, put down some tile, then call it a day and get a check, but that shyt aint gonna fly. It's 2016. Those bullshyt jobs aint guaranteed no more. I love working with my hands, that's why I build shyt in my free time as a hobby, because I understand how money works.

My step brother started a moving company and only wants to hire black folks, but 2/3rds of the folks he hires don't want to show up even for that, which is part of why companies hire illegals, because there is no safety net for them to fall back on and to be lazy.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Salute. This is what happens when brehs don't politicize basic concepts, words, and ideologies, but instead objectively view the reality of a situation

Over the years, the three main reasons that changed my views on illegal immigration:
- the direct impact it has on employment opportunities for black folks
- I felt like a hypocrite to defend illegal immigration because we could take advantage of folks, "who will do jobs american won't," while then later complaining about Americans being taking advantage of and/or their civil rights being violated by corporations, police, judicial systems etc
- Every country has the right and duty to defend their borders. The moment I called another person or country anti immigrant for wanting to defend their border, then I'm being intellectual dishonesty and using labels to bully/intimidate others

I knew shyt was fukked up when you had guys out here saying "well you shouldn't be doing low wage work"

Well look, despite my views on minimum wage, a job is a fukking job. That develops skills, experience, and ultimately assets.

These jobs can't be THAT bad if millions are getting that money to send back home and raise huge families.

Our own parents and friends we know worked those jobs to raise our generation.

 

[Danktoker94]

Why the fukk are our expectations so low that we're fighting illegals over bullshyt jobs? Those jobs, by and large, and BULLshyt. I'm not seeing Africans angry about this. Is always some nikkas arguing about some minimum wage job as if we should be first pick for some bullshyt ass job, but wont catch yall (black men) asses at any of the resume writing workshops, small business workshops, career transition workshops, none of that, but wanna be mad at some Mexicans because they took a job that didn't even require the ability to read.

So with your logic we shouldn't help black people with low education skills obtain those low jobs??? Ya because everybody in the hood wants to be a doctor and lawyer be realistic we've been oppressed OVER 400 YEARS!!!!

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yes, those were trade and union jobs. nikkas didn't want to pay into the union and folks think they are above trade jobs while flipping burgers, which makes no fukking sense to me. nikkas don't want to put in the time to become an electrician or a pipe-fitter, aka, the shyt you can't pay an illegal to do due to unions and permits and all of that shyt. nikkas want the job where they throw some drywall up, swing a hammer for a bit, put down some tile, then call it a day and get a check, but that shyt aint gonna fly. It's 2016. Those bullshyt jobs aint guaranteed no more. I love working with my hands, that's why I build shyt in my free time as a hobby, because I understand how money works.

My step brother started a moving company and only wants to hire black folks, but 2/3rds of the folks he hires don't want to show up even for that, which is part of why companies hire illegals, because there is no safety net for them to fall back on and to be lazy.

Its not just about you. We're talking about millions and millions of people.

Stop thinking you're better than the next man who isn't getting a call back.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Why the fukk are our expectations so low that we're fighting illegals over bullshyt jobs? Those jobs, by and large, and BULLshyt. I'm not seeing Africans angry about this. Is always some nikkas arguing about some minimum wage job as if we should be first pick for some bullshyt ass job, but wont catch yall (black men) asses at any of the resume writing workshops, small business workshops, career transition workshops, none of that, but wanna be mad at some Mexicans because they took a job that didn't even require the ability to read.

Bruh, thats like saying every white dude is a lawyer or doctor.

The problem is that the bar for us is so high that you're either some elite ass dude or you're a bum. It shouldn't be that way. There ARE jobs out there for everyone, but we're not getting them.

Its like you refuse to acknowledge racism.

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

Mexicans look out for Mexicans.. it's that simple

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Mexicans look out for Mexicans.. it's that simple

At our expense.

Remember, these temp agencies ALWAYS lose these class action lawsuits because they keep doing this racist shyt.

 

[Bugatti Biceps]

So with your logic we shouldn't help black people with low education skills obtain those low jobs???

We should help them get more education. The main issue is that THAT HELP ALREADY EXISTS BUT nikkaS DON'T WANT TO SHOW UP FOR shyt.

 

[Bugatti Biceps]

The problem is that the bar for us is so high that you're either some elite ass dude or you're a bum. It shouldn't be that way. There ARE jobs out there for everyone, but we're not getting them.

Its like you refuse to acknowledge racism.

You must be new here if you think I don't acknowledge racism.

In fact, all yall caping for these dumb nikkas are the ones that don't acknowledge racism, and here's how:

1. Racism is everywhere
2. We ALL grew up knowing we had to be twice as better to get half of what white folks got
3. We all knew wasn't shyt gonna be handed to us. Not a job, not an education, not money, nothing.

And yet:

Yall caping for these folks that KNEW this, and still decided to half-ass school, not show up for any of the attempts to better their lives, but folks who just want a bullshyt job 8 hours a day that they thought was guaranteed. It's 2016. If you're still jockeying for the same jobs your grandfather worked in the 50s, you fukked up. Period.

I know racism is everywhere, hence why I but my ass to put myself in a position where aint no outsourcing bytch. Nah, not everyone can be a doctor or a plumber but nikkas can stop eating bad food and go be a firefighter, a plumber, a good car mechanic, a pipefitter, etc, all these trade jobs hurting for people paying 60-80k after 2 years and nikkas turn their noses up because it aint in an office for it aint flashy or some shyt. It's like nikkas believe if they can't be famous, they'll do bullshyt until their big break comes. shyt is silly.

 

[OfTheCross]

It IS us versus them. And they made it that way.

And I'm not an indian either, so miss me with this bullshyt.

Stop defending criminals.

I'm not defending illegal immigrants and their status here. Stop creating fake disagreements.

I agree it's Us vs. Them, but that don't mean Black vs. Brown, that means poor vs. rich, bruh. The system is fukked up.

1. You had temp agencies saying they didn't want black workers
2. You had temp workers sharing their experiences saying they never got hired
3. You had temp agency employees saying they didn't hire black workers
4. You had temp agencies rejecting laws that would hire black workers.

What else do you need in a 50 minute podcast?

1. You had temp agencies say that Employers requested they didn't send them black workers
2. Of course black temp workers are going to have the terrible experience of not being hired when the Employers are specifically requesting they not be hired. That's fukked up and needs fixing.
3. Temp Agency employees were saying that employers didn't want them to send black workers
4. You're right. And that's fukked up. But it's not surprising. They're looking out for their best interests. And it's in their best interests to keep their customers happy. And their customers (some of them) are specifically requesting they not send Black workers.

So again, what I've been saying the whole time is that we need industry to have better oversight from the Federal Gov't.

I'm glad I've exposed the apathy and insensitivity latinos have for black americans and their plight thanks to @OfTheCross

He's an apologist for illegal behavior and doesn't care that blacks are on the chopping board as a result of his selfishness.

You're confused. You've read my tempered responses as apathy, when they're clear-headed thinking. You're all worked up and mad about immigrants crossing the border to find work as if that doesn't happen all over the world.

Hold your politicians accountable. The lesson in this thread is that we may need to reform our Capitalist system, the Temp Agency industry, and our Immigration laws/enforcement

 

[Pazzy]

And to think, you read this story and the other story about entrepreneurs using white folks as the face of their company to secure more business, but you would still have mofos willing to solely blame black folks for their plight

bu bu what's keeping black folks behind is that defeatist attitude of thinking that the boogey man is trying to get you
bu bu I know black folks with businesses that are getting white clients, so these stories are BS, it's about your quality of service
bu bu I know black folks at temp agencies getting jobs, so these stories are exaggerated, it's about your work ethics

Yep... truth.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You must be new here if you think I don't acknowledge racism.

In fact, all yall caping for these dumb nikkas are the ones that don't acknowledge racism, and here's how:

1. Racism is everywhere
2. We ALL grew up knowing we had to be twice as better to get half of what white folks got
3. We all knew wasn't shyt gonna be handed to us. Not a job, not an education, not money, nothing.

And yet:

Yall caping for these folks that KNEW this, and still decided to half-ass school, not show up for any of the attempts to better their lives, but folks who just want a bullshyt job 8 hours a day that they thought was guaranteed. It's 2016. If you're still jockeying for the same jobs your grandfather worked in the 50s, you fukked up. Period.

I know racism is everywhere, hence why I but my ass to put myself in a position where aint no outsourcing bytch. Nah, not everyone can be a doctor or a plumber but nikkas can stop eating bad food and go be a firefighter, a plumber, a good car mechanic, a pipefitter, etc, all these trade jobs hurting for people paying 60-80k after 2 years and nikkas turn their noses up because it aint in an office for it aint flashy or some shyt. It's like nikkas believe if they can't be famous, they'll do bullshyt until their big break comes. shyt is silly.

I bet you won't clear 100k this year so watch your tone and acting like blacks ain't facing racism even going for the positions you advocate for.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm not defending illegal immigrants and their status here. Stop creating fake disagreements.

I agree it's Us vs. Them, but that don't mean Black vs. Brown, that means poor vs. rich, bruh. The system is fukked up.



1. You had temp agencies say that Employers requested they didn't send them black workers
2. Of course black temp workers are going to have the terrible experience of not being hired when the Employers are specifically requesting they not be hired. That's fukked up and needs fixing.
3. Temp Agency employees were saying that employers didn't want them to send black workers
4. You're right. And that's fukked up. But it's not surprising. They're looking out for their best interests. And it's in their best interests to keep their customers happy. And their customers (some of them) are specifically requesting they not send Black workers.

So again, what I've been saying the whole time is that we need industry to have better oversight from the Federal Gov't.



You're confused. You've read my tempered responses as apathy, when they're clear-headed thinking. You're all worked up and mad about immigrants crossing the border to find work as if that doesn't happen all over the world.

Hold your politicians accountable. The lesson in this thread is that we may need to reform our Capitalist system, the Temp Agency industry, and our Immigration laws/enforcement

If it's not black vs brown, why did they restrict legislation meant to remove discrimination?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Yes, those were trade and union jobs. nikkas didn't want to pay into the union and folks think they are above trade jobs while flipping burgers, which makes no fukking sense to me. nikkas don't want to put in the time to become an electrician or a pipe-fitter, aka, the shyt you can't pay an illegal to do due to unions and permits and all of that shyt. nikkas want the job where they throw some drywall up, swing a hammer for a bit, put down some tile, then call it a day and get a check, but that shyt aint gonna fly. It's 2016. Those bullshyt jobs aint guaranteed no more. I love working with my hands, that's why I build shyt in my free time as a hobby, because I understand how money works.

My step brother started a moving company and only wants to hire black folks, but 2/3rds of the folks he hires don't want to show up even for that, which is part of why companies hire illegals, because there is no safety net for them to fall back on and to be lazy.

stop it. Some unions are themselves full of shyt with nepotism and half azz efforts, so folks not wanting to pay into them were not due to their dislike of the profession
Noway a mofo flipping burgers wouldn't want to be an electrician if they had the opportunity and confidence to buildup their math skills
Nobody would be naive to suggest that there are no lazy black folks, like there are lazy whites, mexicans, indians etc...so because your step father encountered those types, why generalize other black folks

You must be new here if you think I don't acknowledge racism.

In fact, all yall caping for these dumb nikkas are the ones that don't acknowledge racism, and here's how:

1. Racism is everywhere
2. We ALL grew up knowing we had to be twice as better to get half of what white folks got
3. We all knew wasn't shyt gonna be handed to us. Not a job, not an education, not money, nothing.

And yet:

Yall caping for these folks that KNEW this, and still decided to half-ass school, not show up for any of the attempts to better their lives, but folks who just want a bullshyt job 8 hours a day that they thought was guaranteed. It's 2016. If you're still jockeying for the same jobs your grandfather worked in the 50s, you fukked up. Period.

I know racism is everywhere, hence why I but my ass to put myself in a position where aint no outsourcing bytch. Nah, not everyone can be a doctor or a plumber but nikkas can stop eating bad food and go be a firefighter, a plumber, a good car mechanic, a pipefitter, etc, all these trade jobs hurting for people paying 60-80k after 2 years and nikkas turn their noses up because it aint in an office for it aint flashy or some shyt. It's like nikkas believe if they can't be famous, they'll do bullshyt until their big break comes. shyt is silly.

Personal responsibility means nothing if its not complimented by societal responsibility, vice versa
Again, lazy is not a racial term

To focus on those individuals that fit your argument, while not factoring in your argument those that don't, does nothing to prove whether illegal immigration is wrong or whether temp agencies are practicing institutional racism
I would assume that folks speaking on this topic would acknowledge certain realities as facts, so there's no reason to mention lazy black folks, while derailing the topic of the thread and the side discussion about the impact illegal immigration has on black employment

 

[Deutsche Bank]

nikkas have been tricked into adopting an anti-establishment culture and now the free market is filling the void economically. Amnesty and citizenship is the second political wing of this takeover, the break's over, nikka, latinos getting preferable bank loans, housing, and jobs over blacks, nikka.

nikkas getting fooled into voting against their own best interests cause Marxist Jews bribe em with free shyt and racist fearmongering. Hard as fukk to get a loan on gubmint benefits, even without criminal a$$hole banks like Wells Fargo preferring to lend to OG Juan and Chuey to the point where they start up a hundred and twenty five billion dollar program just for that.

The little gay socialists on this site should love this shyt. Black folk being forced to depend on state subsidies for basic survival, as a whole population is instantly imported and legitimized over them in the evil free market economy. This is happening under a black Democratic administration, bozos.