Pressure the gov. of the Dominican Republic to stop its planned "cleaning" of 250k black Dominicans

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Maybe the can invite more whites and whiten the Dominican republic. Then they can become Puerto Rico part 2 like they always wanted to. As long as them rape babies dont keep coming here Im cool.

 

[Savior]

yea they love black people in mexico breh have fun

Firstly every non-black country has individual racism against black people. Does that mean Im gonna stop travelling? I dont think so. Theres a difference between that and the government of a country taking away the rights of their black citizens.

 

[BigMan]

im not even co-signing it. its fukked up to revoke birthright citizenship. but a weak 3rd world country with massive corruption problems is going to do whatever it feels necessary to avoid adding another country's problems. if it was up to me i would revoke it as of 2010 or something like that, not 1929.

im just saying, before u pull out the racism pitchforks, realize that everybody in the carribean, black countries included, is doing their best to get rid of haitian immigrants. even ones born there to illegal parents.

we both know DR is very xenophobic/racist against Haitians . and i support a nation restricting/regulating immigration but this is way too far. if DR doesn't want Haitians in their nation, they should stop attracting them. in my mom's country, we have many Dominicans and people complain buts its like who invited them

 

[karim]

im not even co-signing it. its fukked up to revoke birthright citizenship. but a weak 3rd world country with massive corruption problems is going to do whatever it feels necessary to avoid adding another country's problems. if it was up to me i would revoke it as of 2010 or something like that, not 1929.

im just saying, before u pull out the racism pitchforks, realize that everybody in the carribean, black countries included, is doing their best to get rid of haitian immigrants. even ones born there to illegal parents.

we're not talking immigrants here. we're talking about people who lived in the country as dominicans for generations. this has nothing to do with haitis current problems, this is purely a racist issue. if they want to prevent immigrants from comming to your country or get rid of those who came because of the eartquake the already have the necessary legal tools to do so. stripping people whose great great grant parents might or might not have entered the dr illegally has nothing to do with that. this is about whitening the social structure of the country.

if you look at the history of the dr, there is a certain group of white santo domingo elite who promotes a dominican version of white supremacy and managed to construct the countries identity around that. balaguer was one of the main protagonists of this group. before the 1937 massacre, one of the main problems for the dominican central state was, that people identified locally, and that because of that, the legitimacy and the reach of the central state was extremely limited. this also meant that in the border regions, dominicans and haitians lived together, intermarried, traded and identified with each other. their identity wasn't dominican or haitian, but based on the campo or village they lived in. trujillo, influenced by balaguer and people like him, then used the massacre to create a dominican national identity and to extend the reach of the central state. before the massacre, people in the border region resented military or police being stationed where they lived, because the collected taxes on cross border trade. with the massacre, the government constructed a haitian thread, against which the population had to be protected, giving them a reason to deploy troops. this constrcuted threat of an external and internal haitian enemy, and the construction of a dominican identity which is largely based on a demarcation from haiti still resonates in dominican society and is behind the constitutional court decision.

 

[beanz]

this is about whitening the social structure of the country.

 

[Blackout]

Immigration sweeps, eh?

That's an uncommon practice worldwide





They have a path to get their documentation.

If and when the DR enforces their law as long as they do it humanely its their sovereign right.

It's not like being born in Haiti automatically makes you a Haitian citizen, either

This is really not anything outrageous in the world

I just wonder how youd react if the US did this to you aka Dominicans lol.

 

[beanz]

we both know DR is very xenophobic/racist against Haitians . and i support a nation restricting/regulating immigration but this is way too far. if DR doesn't want Haitians in their nation, they should stop attracting them. in my mom's country, we have many Dominicans and people complain buts its like who invited them

DR isnt attracting them. ya acting like DR is a rich country. cant even take care of our own citizens properly and we under some moral obligation to take care of haitians too?

 

[beanz]

I just wonder how youd react if the US did this to you aka Dominicans lol.

they can kick out all the illegal dominicans they want and if the US is under such economical strain that they wanna revoke birthright citizenship too, we aint gonna be feeling it but its their country

 

[newarkhiphop]

you right i forgot about the black solidarity being shown from the non spanish speaking carribean nations towards the haitians

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/31/w...up-as-bahamas-tightens-immigration-rules.html



http://antiguaobserver.com/jamaica-immigration-haitian-refugees-sent-back-home/

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[karim]

if you'd do your reading and critically reflected on your own countries history, you would know that this is true. it's also about deflection from other issues such as government corruption. but go on, focus on the haitians.

 

[beanz]

Firstly every non-black country has individual racism against black people. Does that mean Im gonna stop travelling? I dont think so. Theres a difference between that and the government of a country taking away the rights of their black citizens.

they arent taking away rights of black citizens. this is how ya mind works. like a game of telephone in grade school. they are taking away birthright citizenship of haitians born to illegal immigrants. again, i dont co-sign it, but if they feel its necessary its their right as a sovereign nation.

 

[karim]

they can kick out all the illegal dominicans they want and if the US is under suck economical strain that they wanna revoke birthright citizenship too, we aint gonna be feeling it but its their country

these people are not illegal. how would you react if the us constitutional court made a decision that meant that hundreds of thousends of us citizens with dominican heritage were stripped of their citizenship and to be deported?

 

[Arianne Martell]

@beanz

don't feed into this propaganda...see how the mod who is haitian made this a sticky and a feature?

nothing to see here just another day to fill in the Dom/hai faux outrage quota in the coli

and the mofos talkin bout suspending their vacation as if Black Americans are an economic power that DR needs to woo to the island

I can't take these threads seriously anymore...not even to troll

 

[beanz]

if you'd do your reading and critically reflected on your own countries history, you would know that this is true. it's also about deflection from other issues such as government corruption. but go on, focus on the haitians.

i know our history and i know all about trujillo, but that whitening shyt is no longer the case. yea there are many racist dominicans and colorism exists within my people i wont deny it. a lot of us are fukked up in the head racially because we never had a black power movement out there and racial identity has never made it far up on list of priorities for the day to day trying to survive dominican, but at the government level it isnt about whitening the country.

its about corrupt politicians deflecting the blame on our economy onto haitians instead of attacking the real problem which is corruption. i personally dont blame the haitians for anything, its our shytty fukking leadership just like haitis shytty fukking leadership. its not a black and white issue its a green issue.

 

[beanz]

@beanz

don't feed into this propaganda...see how the mod who is haitian made this a sticky and a feature?

nothing to see here just another day to fill in the Dom/hai faux outrage quota in the coli

and the mofos talkin bout suspending their vacation as if Black Americans are an economic power that DR needs to woo to the island

I can't take these threads seriously anymore...not even to troll

im bored prima