Rebuild the Realm: Official 2014 Miami Heat OffSeason Thread

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Woj said it, it happened.

Again, the Cavs didn't have to make that move yesterday, the Sixers would have gladly taken Jack off their hands if it meant that they got Zeller, Karasev and a first. They could have waited for word that LeBron was going to sign, then unloaded those players after, they got pushed into that by his agent. Do you dudes not realize how valuable first rounders and young prospects are or something?

so what woj said it? where did he get it from? a source....he might be a good place for info, but he aint perfect nor always right....

you don't go to bron talking about what you'll be able to do after the fact....once he makes his choice, you gotta be able to show him the money right then and there....the longer the cavs waited, the more desperate they become and other teams know this...so the trading price would've only gotten more steep...this was probably the cheapest price they had to pay right now.....

yea, I understand how valuable 1st rounders/young prospects are, but I also understand having a shot at the best player in the league is more valuable....and doesn't come around as often as 1st rounders/young prospects....they'll be able to get those again next year, the year after that, the year after that, and so on....but that don't mean none of them gonna be worth bron is right now...seriously, not making those moves is like saying no to trading jj hickson for a prime amare that could help you win at that present time cause of jj's potential in the future in your eyes.....wait, the cavs did that dumb shyt....seems they learned they lesson....
 

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seems like Rich Paul still mad that he didn't get front row seats all season long or he trolling Gilbert but Paul will be a marked man in Cleveland. @Malta may be right, but all I hear from the Cavs org is they have hope. Huh ? Nothiung about Lebron wants this or that, or we talked to Lebron.


I rather beleivbe Bron is dissing Gilbert. Dude left same day after Gilbert tweeted he was landing in Hollywood :wow:
 

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so what woj said it? where did he get it from? a source....he might be a good place for info, but he aint perfect nor always right....

Woj said it, it happened.

I'll take his word on it, over your assumption and hope that Rich Paul wasn't contacting the Heat and the Cavs were blindly trading players.

you don't go to bron talking about what you'll be able to do after the fact....once he makes his choice, you gotta be able to show him the money right then and there....the longer the cavs waited, the more desperate they become and other teams know this...so the trading price would've only gotten more steep...this was probably the cheapest price they had to pay right now.....

yea, I understand how valuable 1st rounders/young prospects are, but I also understand having a shot at the best player in the league is more valuable....and doesn't come around as often as 1st rounders/young prospects....they'll be able to get those again next year, the year after that, the year after that, and so on....but that don't mean none of them gonna be worth bron is right now...seriously, not making those moves is like saying no to trading jj hickson for a prime amare that could help you win at that present time cause of jj's potential in the future in your eyes.....wait, the cavs did that dumb shyt....seems they learned they lesson....


Again, the Cavs didn't have to make that move yesterday, the Sixers or any other team near the salary floor would have taken him off the Cavs hands if they could get a first in return. Nobody is making that trade unless they are being directed to do so, you really have no idea how important first rounders are. If LeBron doesn't go to Cleveland they lost 2 prospects and a first rounder, why is this so difficult to grasp?

Why are you bringing up JJ Hickson and Amare, that was Danny Ferry, they have a completely different GM now :wtf:
 

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Woj said it, it happened.

I'll take his word on it, over your assumption and hope that Rich Paul wasn't contacting the Heat and the Cavs were blindly trading players.

Again, the Cavs didn't have to make that move yesterday, the Sixers or any other team near the salary floor would have taken him off the Cavs hands if they could get a first in return. Nobody is making that trade unless they are being directed to do so, you really have no idea how important first rounders are. If LeBron doesn't go to Cleveland they lost 2 prospects and a first rounder, why is this so difficult to grasp?
Why are you bringing up JJ Hickson and Amare, that was Danny Ferry, they have a completely different GM now :wtf:

'woj said it, it happened' lol ok...i'm not saying paul didn't talk to the cavs, we know he did...i'm saying he didn't assure them bron was coming...I bet he said to have a shot at bron, you need to be able to offer the max deal, that's not assurance he's coming....

that's cool, you can take his word over mine...i'm not hoping for shyt (I don't root for any nba team, I just dig the sport/players) nor am I trying to get you to change your mind, just having a discussion....just saying, before I believe something, i'm need more than just a 'source'....especially when there have been so many conflicting 'sources' out there....you would figure all these sources stories would start aligning right?...but they haven't....

they did have to make that move yesterday, cause according to 'sources' bron was gonna make his announcement yesterday....and like I said, you don't go after the best player saying 'thanks for choosing us, but you gotta wait on that max deal while we make moves'.....it's not difficult for me to grasp at all, I understand they are valuable...but what's so hard for you to grasp that those 2 prospects and that 1st rounder isn't as valuable as a shot at bron?....you really telling me that 1st rounder, zeller, and the foreign player is worth more than a shot at having bron now?....even if they don't get bron, I don't see zeller nor that foreign guard (I think he is) becoming so damn good that the cavs regret trading them....why? cause they'll replace them next year or the year after that with 2 new young prospects, that are probably better....seriously, its not like they gave up wiggins, kyrie, waiters...they gave up zeller and a guard that barely played lol.....

I bring it up cause it shows the cavs learned they lesson about sitting on prospects with potential instead of making the team better right now....if they make that trade, who knows, bron might have never left in the first place....it would've shown the organization cared about winning ships, and not just selling out arenas and getting money....which is the image they trying to portray to show bron they've changed....but if you look at it, since bron left, what have the cavs really done to change that image and show they about winning ships?...they on their 3rd coach; keep getting high draft pick after pick, yet haven't got close to the offs in the shytty east; nor despite stacking young talent, shown any improvement to the degree that makes you think they bron away from the ship...
 
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'woj said it, it happened' lol ok...i'm not saying paul didn't talk to the cavs, we know he did...i'm saying he didn't assure them bron was coming...I bet he said to have a shot at bron, you need to be able to offer the max deal, that's not assurance he's coming....

that's cool, you can take his word over mine...i'm not hoping for shyt (I don't root for any nba team, I just dig the sport/players) nor am I trying to get you to change your mind, just having a discussion....just saying, before I believe something, i'm need more than just a 'source'....especially when there have been so many conflicting 'sources' out there....you would figure all these sources stories would start aligning right?...but they haven't....

they did have to make that move yesterday, cause according to 'sources' bron was gonna make his announcement yesterday....and like I said, you don't go after the best player saying 'thanks for choosing us, but you gotta wait on that max deal while we make moves'.....it's not difficult for me to grasp at all, I understand they are valuable...but what's so hard for you to grasp that those 2 prospects and that 1st rounder isn't as valuable as a shot at bron?....you really telling me that 1st rounder, zeller, and the foreign player is worth more than a shot at having bron now?....even if they don't get bron, I don't see zeller nor that foreign guard (I think he is) becoming so damn good that the cavs regret trading them....why? cause they'll replace them next year or the year after that with 2 new young prospects, that are probably better....seriously, its not like they gave up wiggins, kyrie, waiters...they gave up zeller and a guard that barely played lol.....

I bring it up cause it shows the cavs learned they lesson about sitting on prospects with potential instead of making the team better right now....if they make that trade, who knows, bron might have never left in the first place....it would've shown the organization cared about winning ships, and not just selling out arenas and getting money....which is the image they trying to portray to show bron they've changed....but if you look at it, since bron left, what have the cavs really done to change that image and show they about winning ships?...they on their 3rd coach; keep getting high draft pick after pick, yet haven't got close to the offs in the shytty east; nor despite stacking young talent, shown any improvement to the degree that makes you think they bron away from the ship...
1st rd picks our valuable but it depends on the draft class. We all know some draft classes really have no franchise changing players just good players..
 

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1st rd picks our valuable but it depends on the draft class. We all know some draft classes really have no franchise changing players just good players..

true....

well, seems he going back...I was wrong, have no problem saying so.....more power to the brotha...
 
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