SHANE MOSLEY SPARS 6 HARD ROUNDS WITH SHAWN PORTER; GIVES HIM ADVICE FOR KEITH THURMAN CLASH

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There's no such thing as a competitive Boxing lesson imo breh:yeshrug:



A lesson aka clinic is always domination by 1 side over the other.
I disagree entirely. Activity and aggression are enough to win rounds in a fight, and even be competitive from round to round, doesn't stop a lesson from being doled out. My biggest measure is if a lesson was taught/someone was outclassed, is what would happen in a rematch. Brook beats Porter 10 out of 10 times.
 

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I disagree entirely. Activity and aggression are enough to win rounds in a fight, and even be competitive from round to round, doesn't stop a lesson from being doled out. My biggest measure is if a lesson was taught/someone was outclassed, is what would happen in a rematch. Brook beats Porter 10 out of 10 times.

Name me another fight to you, outside of Brook vs Porter, that was competitive round to round....but a Boxing lesson/clinic was delivered.
 

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Jirov/Toney

You had that fight close?:dwillhuh:


Yeah, I thought James Toney clearly dominated him and put on a masterful performance. Fight wasn't close at all imo. I don't see Kell Brook vs Porter in that fashion, but it's cool. Different opinions:yeshrug:
 
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You had that fight close?:dwillhuh:


Yeah, I thought James Toney clearly dominated him and put on a masterful performance. Fight wasn't close or competitive at all imo.
Where do I say that I had that fight close? :dwillhuh: It wasn't close, and Brook/Porter wasn't close either. But in both cases the guy getting outclassed came to compete in every round
 

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Where do I say that I had that fight close? :dwillhuh: It wasn't close, and Brook/Porter wasn't close either. But in both cases the guy getting outclassed came to compete in every round

That's the problem...you had Shawn Porter losing 117-111 in a fight & I had it 115-113. You don't think it was close, I do...and my card is on pace with the average score from 61 media members who scored it as well:manny:



Difference in opinion. It's cool:yeshrug:
 

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That's the problem...you had Shawn Porter losing 117-111 in a fight & I had it 115-113. You don't think it was close, I do...and my card is on pace with the average score from 61 media members who scored it as well:manny:



Difference in opinion. It's cool:yeshrug:
Seeing as how that median also includes people who scored a fight we both have with a clear winner as a draw or with Porter even winning , I'mma have to throw that average in the bushes. 28 out of the 61 had it 116-112 or better in Kell's favor, so majority of people saw it my way.
 

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Seeing as how that median also includes people who scored a fight we both have with a clear winner as a draw or with Porter even winning , I'mma have to throw that average in the bushes. 28 out of the 61 had it 116-112 or better in Kell's favor, so majority of people saw it my way.

How you gonna count 116-112 as your favor?:mjlol:

You had it 117-111 for Brook...that would mean 117-111 or better would be in your favor, because you had Brook winning at least 9 rounds while 115-113 Brook or less would be in MY favor because I had Brook winning at max 7 rounds. You didn't even think the fight was close while I did.

116-112 is an in-between of BOTH of our scores, you don't get to have that mark breh.


Now that we have clarified that:


8 out of the 61 had it 117-111 or better in Kell's favor...which is on par with YOUR card:sas1:


31 out of the 61 had it 115-113 or worse for Kell...which is on par with MY card.:sas1:


21 out of the 51 had it 116-112 for Kell which was the median (1 round away) of BOTH of our cards:sas2:
 

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How you gonna count 116-112 as your favor?:mjlol:

You had it 117-111 for Brook...that would mean 117-111 or better would be in your favor, while 115-113 Brook or less would be in MY favor. 116-112 is an in-between of BOTH of our scores, you don't get to have that mark breh.


8 out of the 61 had it 117-111 or better in Kell's favor...which is on par with YOUR card:sas1:


31 out of the 61 had it 115-113 or worse for Kell...which is on par with MY card.:sas1:


21 out of the 51 had it 116-112 for Kell which was the median (1 round away) of BOTH of our cards:sas2:
Because 8-4 is the common sense tipping point for a lopsided fight.
 

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Because 8-4 is the common sense tipping point for a lopsided fight.

nah breh.


115-113 or 116-112 are similar scores just like 116-112 and 117-111 are.


If you can see a fight scored 7 rounds to 5, you can *give* an extra round either way (6 to 6 at worst or 8 to 4 at max)...same as if you see a fight 9 rounds to 3, you should be able to see the fight being scored 8 to 4 at worst or 10 to 2 at max.


You cant say 117-111 is = to 116-112, but 115-113 isn't when only 1 round separates the scores:comeon:
 

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nah breh.


115-113 or 116-112 are similar scores just like 116-112 and 117-111 are.


If you can see a fight scored 7 rounds to 5, you can *give* an extra round either way (6 to 6 at worst or 8 to 4 at max)...same as if you see a fight 9 rounds to 3, you should be able to see the fight being scored 8 to 4 at worst or 10 to 2 at max.


You cant say 117-111 is = to 116-112, but 115-113 isn't when only 1 round separates the scores:comeon:
You can, because there is a massive difference between saying the fight was slightly less lopsided, versus saying the fight could be a draw. If you see a fight 7-5, you can't both also say it was a 8-4 bout with a guy winning double the amount of rounds as the other, and thus a resounding clear victory...but also potentially a draw.
 

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You can, because there is a massive difference between saying the fight was slightly less lopsided, versus saying the fight could be a draw. If you see a fight 7-5, you can't both also say it was a 8-4 bout with a guy winning double the amount of rounds as the other, and thus a resounding clear victory...but also potentially a draw.

Yes you can.


If I score a fight 7-5, I could see it being a draw OR see it being 116-112 because you give leeway for a "swing round" (rounds that could go either way) which means anything between 114-114 and 116-112 I could see without a problem. That's a close fight imo.


If I scored a fight 117-111, and gave leeway for a swing round, I should be able to see anything between 116-112 and 118-110.


Me and you differ because we are 2 rounds away, but 116-112 is exactly in the middle of your score & mine. You call it a domination, me and others thought it was a Kell Brook win but it was close. Difference in what we saw.


Even sticking to the media cards: Only 8 of the 61 sided with you & gave Kell Brook 9 rounds, while 19 of the 61 sided with me and gave Kell Brook only 7 rounds:manny:


It's cool though breh, you seen what you seen & I seen it a different way
 

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But lets get a bet going; Porter has NO chance of winning. Avy bets, coli cash whatever.:jawalrus:
 
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