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So yeah, decided to create a Coli incarnation with the purpose of being an all-encompassing thread for the general discussion, latest news, history, videos, infographics, photographs of everything Space Science / Astronomy related. Thread is for people that have everything from the most casual passing interest to a primary passion for the topics at hand to browse, read, post, discuss, learn and/or educate, including but not limited to:

> Earth Science
> Planetary Science
> Astrophysics
> Astronautics
> Space Exploration
> Space Technology

Already got a good chunk of material to post, starting off with some old school stuff.

In October 2015, NASA dumped over 10,000 unprocessed photos in their original form from the Apollo missions out of their archives and onto the internet. All scanned at a resolution of 1800 DPI and even sorted by the roll of film they were on. Funny thing is, the photos have always been available in the public domain albeit not so painstakingly well organized in one place and this effort was actually an independent one by Kipp Teague, a long time employee at the NASA history office

Project Apollo Archive (Link)

 

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When people ask and wonder why there hasn't been any moon missions since the early 1970s, which human-rated SHLLV capable of supporting manned exploration of the moon do they suggest they should have gone back with by now? There hasn't been one in production since 1973. The Saturn V was capable of launching a payload of 140 metric tons (not 130) into low earth orbit and nearly 50 to the moon. By comparison, the Space Shuttle which ran overlong from 1981-2011, ate up a significant portion of NASA's budget and wasn't capable of space travel beyond LEO had max lift capacity of 25 MT.

Put another way: The Saturn V could've theoretically launched the International Space Station in three payloads as opposed to the several dozen it's actually taken to assemble it on far lesser launch vehicles. It did launch an entire space station into orbit (Skylab) in its final mission in one shot. The Russians had four catastrophes on their hands with the N1 attempting to level with Wernher von Braun's masterwork. It's arguably the greatest engineering feat in human history. And they absolutely do not have anywhere near the funding they did in the late 60s and early 70s . If it stayed at peak levels, it would put their 2017 FY budget at over $40 billion (see bottom). It's less than half of that.

 

[V-2]

The rocket that launched humanity into the Space Age:



A sidenote on the aerospace engineer and physicist Wernher von Braun - responsible for both the V-2 and Saturn V - who has become somewhat of an infamous figure in more recent decades as his Nazi-affiliated background prior to emigrating from Germany to the United States after World War II came more into full view.

The fact of the matter is that he used whatever means and avenues necessary to persue his research and achieve his audacious dreams. He achieved them tenfold. That makes him narcissistic, opportunistic and probably not a very good person on the whole. A war criminal though? Hardly.

His own personal views and political allegiance towards the Nazi regime could be considered rather questionable and he was actually arrested in 1944 by the Gestapo and held for two weeks after a spy reported catching a private conversation of his amongst other engineers where he frankly expressed that his only interest rocketry and developing the V-2 was for the purposes of space travel, not weapons systems for the Reich.

Not everything is always so 'black and white'.

NPR: How A Nazi Rocket Scientist Fought For Civil Rights

In Huntsville, von Braun and the other German scientists blatantly ignored racial segregation laws. They played tennis with African Americans on public tennis courts. They went to all-Black juke clubs to see their favorite jazz musicians perform.

“The Germans were able to go to these clubs because if the cops questioned them about it, they would just pretend they didn’t understand or speak German or something, and it was just kind of known that you didn’t mess with them,” McWhorter says.

For the first time in his life, von Braun was on the good side. After NASA threatened to move the space center out of Alabama because of the state’s heinous record on race, von Braun joined the push for civil rights.

“Von Braun, who was sort of a god in the state as well as in the country at the time, he was so glamorous, so popular, that he was able, he had the standing to go around to the business community to try to persuade them to behave,” McWhorter says. He began recruiting minority engineers at NASA, lobbied business leaders on integration, and courted publicity by attending Black-community events.

 

[Starman]

Dope!

 

[AndroidHero]

Great, Keep it up.

 

[morris]

Great stuff!

I'm just very surprised that 50 years later we are still relying on rocket power/fuel. I really thought by now we'd have a completely different way of getting deep into outer space.

 

[V-2]

Great stuff!

I'm just very surprised that 50 years later we are still relying on rocket power/fuel. I really thought by now we'd have a completely different way of getting deep into outer space.

They're working on it, man. Just this past Winter, the long doubted (and even maligned) EM Drive passed peer-review and the paper was published in the AIAA's Journal of Propulsion and Power. Doesn't get more legitimate than that really, although we're still quite a way from being able to utilize it for practical space exploration purposes. Crazy part is that it's been done fairly low key and really without much hype or more importantly: funding. Just dedicated work from a small group at the JSC facility in Houston.

Article: NASA's 'Impossible' EM Drive Passes Peer-Review

Research Paper: https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/10.2514/1.B36120

 

[morris]

They're working on it, man. Just this past Winter, the long doubted (and even maligned) EM Drive passed peer-review and the paper was published in the AIAA's Journal of Propulsion and Power. Doesn't get more legitimate than that really, although we're still quite a way from being able to utilize it for practical space exploration purposes. Crazy part is that it's been done fairly low key and really without much hype or more importantly: funding. Just dedicated work from a small group at the JSC facility in Houston.

Article: NASA's 'Impossible' EM Drive Passes Peer-Review

Research Paper: https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/10.2514/1.B36120

Shape-shifting ‘4D’ printed objects could pave the way for outer space structures

 

[The axe murderer]

Subs.Good stuff OP

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=s...2kkL1R5w0RuZcTWtxjZaYOR7WK69wL7EEj8AtwD&hl=en

 

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https://www.google.com/search?tbs=s...2kkL1R5w0RuZcTWtxjZaYOR7WK69wL7EEj8AtwD&hl=en

About time someone said something.

Pretty mean-looking artwork too, especially for the 1940s. Unfortunately, this particular piece isn't really "propaganda" but the truth as it pertains to the WW2 Allied firebombing of targets with little to no military or war-supporting industrial value. They just straight up incinerated hundreds of thousands of civilians in an effort to break the populace's will. My paternal grandparents were born in Würzburg and Schwabach respectively, thankfully both had already emigrated as kids at different times with their 'rents. Their direct fam - uncles, aunts, cousins - who stayed behind, not as lucky.

 

[lace434]

The rocket that launched humanity into the Space Age:



A sidenote on the aerospace engineer and physicist Wernher von Braun - responsible for both the V-2 and Saturn V - who has become somewhat of an infamous figure in more recent decades as his Nazi-affiliated background prior to emigrating from Germany to the United States after World War II came more into full view.

The fact of the matter is that he used whatever means and avenues necessary to persue his research and achieve his audacious dreams. He achieved them tenfold. That makes him narcissistic, opportunistic and probably not a very good person on the whole. A war criminal though? Hardly.

His own personal views and political allegiance towards the Nazi regime could be considered rather questionable and he was actually arrested in 1944 by the Gestapo and held for two weeks after a spy reported catching a private conversation of his amongst other engineers where he frankly expressed that his only interest rocketry and developing the V-2 was for the purposes of space travel, not weapons systems for the Reich.

Not everything is always so 'black and white'.

NPR: How A Nazi Rocket Scientist Fought For Civil Rights

In Huntsville, von Braun and the other German scientists blatantly ignored racial segregation laws. They played tennis with African Americans on public tennis courts. They went to all-Black juke clubs to see their favorite jazz musicians perform.

“The Germans were able to go to these clubs because if the cops questioned them about it, they would just pretend they didn’t understand or speak German or something, and it was just kind of known that you didn’t mess with them,” McWhorter says.

For the first time in his life, von Braun was on the good side. After NASA threatened to move the space center out of Alabama because of the state’s heinous record on race, von Braun joined the push for civil rights.

“Von Braun, who was sort of a god in the state as well as in the country at the time, he was so glamorous, so popular, that he was able, he had the standing to go around to the business community to try to persuade them to behave,” McWhorter says. He began recruiting minority engineers at NASA, lobbied business leaders on integration, and courted publicity by attending Black-community events.

wow

 

[lace434]

NASA telescope finds 10 more planets that could have life

• By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP SCIENCE WRITER

WASHINGTON — Jun 19, 2017, 4:35 PM ET

The Associated Press
This artist rendering provided by NASA/JPL-Caltech/T. Pyle, taken in 2015, depicts one possible appearance of the planet Kepler-452b, the first near-Earth-size world to be found in the habitable zone of a star that is similar to our sun. NASA says its planet-hunting telescope has found 10 new planets outside our solar system that are likely the right size and temperature to potentially have life on them. (NASA/JPL-Caltech/T. Pyle via AP)

NASA's planet-hunting telescope has found 10 new planets outside our solar system that are likely the right size and temperature to potentially have life on them, broadly hinting that we are probably not alone.

After four years of searching, the Kepler telescope has detected a total of 49 planets in the Goldilocks zone. And it only looked in a tiny part of the galaxy, one quarter of one percent of a galaxy that holds about 200 billion of stars.

Seven of the 10 newfound Earth-size planets circle stars that are just like ours, not cool dwarf ones that require a planet be quite close to its star for the right temperature. That doesn't mean the planets have life, but some of the most basic requirements that life needs are there, upping the chances for life.

"Are we alone? Maybe Kepler today has told us indirectly, although we need confirmation, that we are probably not alone," Kepler scientist Mario Perez said in a Monday news conference.

Outside scientists agreed that this is a boost in the hope for life elsewhere.

"It implies that Earth-size planets in the habitable zone around sun-like stars are not rare," Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb, who was not part of the work, said in an email.

The 10 Goldilocks planets are part of 219 new candidate planets that NASA announced Monday as part of the final batch of planets discovered in the main mission since the telescope was launched in 2009. It was designed to survey part of the galaxy to see how frequent planets are and how frequent Earth-size and potentially habitable planets are. Kepler's main mission ended in 2013 after the failure of two of its four wheels that control its orientation in space.

It's too early to know how common potentially habitable planets are in the galaxy because there are lots of factors to consider including that Kepler could only see planets that move between the telescope vision and its star, said Kepler research scientist Susan Mullally of the SETI Institute in Mountain View, California.

It will take about a year for the Kepler team to come up with a number of habitable planet frequency, she said.

Kepler has spotted more than 4,000 planet candidates and confirmed more than half of those. A dozen of the planets that seem to be in the potentially habitable zone circle Earth-like stars, not cooler red dwarfs.

Circling sun-like stars make the planets "even more interesting and important," said Alan Boss, an astronomer at the Carnegie Institution, who wasn't part of the Kepler team.

One of those planets — KOI7711 — is the closest analog to Earth astronomers have seen in terms of size and the energy it gets from its star, which dictates temperatures.

Before Kepler was launched, astronomers had hoped that the frequency of Earth-like planets would be about one percent of the stars. The talk among scientists at a Kepler conference in California this weekend is that it is closer to 60 percent, he said.

Kepler isn't the only way astronomers have found exoplanets and even potentially habitable ones. Between Kepler and other methods, scientists have now confirmed more than 3,600 exoplanets and found about 62 potentially habitable planets .

"This number could have been very, very small," said Caltech astronomer Courtney Dressing. "I, for one, am ecstatic."

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wi...nasa-telescope-finds-10-planets-life-48135250

 

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NASA telescope finds 10 more planets that could have life

• By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP SCIENCE WRITER

WASHINGTON — Jun 19, 2017, 4:35 PM ET

The Associated Press
This artist rendering provided by NASA/JPL-Caltech/T. Pyle, taken in 2015, depicts one possible appearance of the planet Kepler-452b, the first near-Earth-size world to be found in the habitable zone of a star that is similar to our sun. NASA says its planet-hunting telescope has found 10 new planets outside our solar system that are likely the right size and temperature to potentially have life on them. (NASA/JPL-Caltech/T. Pyle via AP)

NASA's planet-hunting telescope has found 10 new planets outside our solar system that are likely the right size and temperature to potentially have life on them, broadly hinting that we are probably not alone.

After four years of searching, the Kepler telescope has detected a total of 49 planets in the Goldilocks zone. And it only looked in a tiny part of the galaxy, one quarter of one percent of a galaxy that holds about 200 billion of stars.

Seven of the 10 newfound Earth-size planets circle stars that are just like ours, not cool dwarf ones that require a planet be quite close to its star for the right temperature. That doesn't mean the planets have life, but some of the most basic requirements that life needs are there, upping the chances for life.

"Are we alone? Maybe Kepler today has told us indirectly, although we need confirmation, that we are probably not alone," Kepler scientist Mario Perez said in a Monday news conference.

Outside scientists agreed that this is a boost in the hope for life elsewhere.

"It implies that Earth-size planets in the habitable zone around sun-like stars are not rare," Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb, who was not part of the work, said in an email.

The 10 Goldilocks planets are part of 219 new candidate planets that NASA announced Monday as part of the final batch of planets discovered in the main mission since the telescope was launched in 2009. It was designed to survey part of the galaxy to see how frequent planets are and how frequent Earth-size and potentially habitable planets are. Kepler's main mission ended in 2013 after the failure of two of its four wheels that control its orientation in space.

It's too early to know how common potentially habitable planets are in the galaxy because there are lots of factors to consider including that Kepler could only see planets that move between the telescope vision and its star, said Kepler research scientist Susan Mullally of the SETI Institute in Mountain View, California.

It will take about a year for the Kepler team to come up with a number of habitable planet frequency, she said.

Kepler has spotted more than 4,000 planet candidates and confirmed more than half of those. A dozen of the planets that seem to be in the potentially habitable zone circle Earth-like stars, not cooler red dwarfs.

Circling sun-like stars make the planets "even more interesting and important," said Alan Boss, an astronomer at the Carnegie Institution, who wasn't part of the Kepler team.

One of those planets — KOI7711 — is the closest analog to Earth astronomers have seen in terms of size and the energy it gets from its star, which dictates temperatures.

Before Kepler was launched, astronomers had hoped that the frequency of Earth-like planets would be about one percent of the stars. The talk among scientists at a Kepler conference in California this weekend is that it is closer to 60 percent, he said.

Kepler isn't the only way astronomers have found exoplanets and even potentially habitable ones. Between Kepler and other methods, scientists have now confirmed more than 3,600 exoplanets and found about 62 potentially habitable planets .

"This number could have been very, very small," said Caltech astronomer Courtney Dressing. "I, for one, am ecstatic."

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wi...nasa-telescope-finds-10-planets-life-48135250

Aye, good to see you come through. I hadn't even noticed your signature quotes before now, haha. Carl Sagan was a real one and NDT is a fitting successor who also knew him personally before he checked out. When you let yourself catch that Science bug, it has a way of influencing your entire perspective on life and even worldview if you go deep enough on it.



^ Legendary shot taken by Voyager 1 in 1990 btw, without a doubt the greatest space exploration mission ever undertaken IMO for what the twin spacecraft achieved and how long they've survived into deep space. Launched in the Summer of '77 and still going as an active mission 40 years on even as instrument panels start to give out and are shutdown to preserve power. I have tons of material and info on that one for later on. JPL in Pasadena is THAT field center for the interplanetary and deep space robotic stuff.

 

[lace434]

Aye, good to see you come through. I hadn't even noticed your signature quotes before now, haha. Carl Sagan was a real one and NDT is a fitting successor who also knew him personally before he checked out. When you let yourself catch that Science bug, it has a way of influencing your entire perspective on life and even worldview if you go deep enough on it.



^ Legendary shot taken by Voyager 1 in 1990 btw, without a doubt the greatest space exploration mission ever undertaken IMO for what the twin spacecraft achieved and how long they've survived into deep space. Launched in the Summer of '77 and still going as an active mission 40 years on even as instrument panels start to give out and are shutdown to preserve power. I have tons of material and info on that one for later on. JPL in Pasadena is THAT field center for the interplanetary and deep space robotic stuff.

haha yea fam to be fair i just added Carl Sagan its only right since i had Neil.... but yea science is a beautiful thing so much out there to learn.


all this info is amazing to me gonna have to make some notes haha i love this