CEITEDMOFO
Banned
This is easily one of my favorite rap stories, one I've been telling for years, but have yet to see it just straight up typed out. So today I'm setting out to be the change I wish to see in the world. The short version is that Pimp C disliked the "Big Pimpin" beat so much he initially refused to rap on it and then no-showed on the video shoot. Here's the long version.
Close followers of Pimp's story have known that he wasn't exactly jumping at the chance to work on "Big Pimpin for a while." As he told MTV way back in 2005:
"It sounded like a pop record to me. I didn’t want to do it. It scared me, because I didn’t know how people was going to take us going in that direction. But I remember Jay telling me, ’Look, family: It’s going to be the biggest record of your career. If you don’t do it for yourself, just do it for me.’ That was good enough for me, so I jumped on it.”
But that's only scratching the surface of the story. Here's the more complete story, as told by Bun B on the now dearly-departed "Hype Men" podcast I was involved in back in the day:
Jay Z, coming off his 5 times platinum Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life album, calls Bun B out of the blue, but Bun at first hangs up on him, believing it's a prank call. Jay calls back again, convinces Bun it's really him, and says there's a song for his upcoming album he wants UGK on.
Right off the bat Pimp is unimpressed. He was originally supposed to be on Jay's "Just a Week Ago" but Pimp refused to fly to New York City to record it. If Jay Z wanted him on the song so bad, let Jay fly to Houston, and so the song never happened. Pimp moved for no man.
Bun convinces Pimp to at least give the song a listen, but when the tapes arrive in the mail (yes, tapes, this was way before email) Pimp's adamant. fu*k that. There's no way he's rapping on such a weird beat.
Bun's not about to let the opportunity pass, so he flies to New York, gets a taste of Roc-A-Fella at its peak, records his verse and then slowly but surely wears Pimp down and convinces him to get on the song, if only as a favor to him. Pimp relents, but on one condition - he's only giving Jay eight bars. Not a word more.
"'I said that's cool, eight bars, no problem, just get on the fu*king record. This song's gonna be a big deal. He sent it [his verse] back to me and I listened....eight bars. I just rapped for something like 20 bars trying to out rap Jay Z, and this motherfu*ker just did it in eight bars." - Bun B
"Things U Do" with Mariah Carey was initially supposed to be the big lead single off Vol. 3, but when that song fails to catch on Jay and Dame decide to change plans and give "Big Pimpin" the full single treatment. Plans for a huge video shoot in Trinidad with Hype Williams get underway.
Bun B misses his first flight and arrives at the video shoot in Trinidad a little late, expecting to see Pimp already there. Nope. Pimp has once again refused to leave Houston. At first Hype Williams can't believe Pimp would actually bail on the video shoot, keeps trying to convince him to come to no avail, and they leave Trinidad with a massive video for a massive single that has exactly and precisely zero seconds of Pimp C in it.
Close followers of Pimp's story have known that he wasn't exactly jumping at the chance to work on "Big Pimpin for a while." As he told MTV way back in 2005:
"It sounded like a pop record to me. I didn’t want to do it. It scared me, because I didn’t know how people was going to take us going in that direction. But I remember Jay telling me, ’Look, family: It’s going to be the biggest record of your career. If you don’t do it for yourself, just do it for me.’ That was good enough for me, so I jumped on it.”
But that's only scratching the surface of the story. Here's the more complete story, as told by Bun B on the now dearly-departed "Hype Men" podcast I was involved in back in the day:
Jay Z, coming off his 5 times platinum Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life album, calls Bun B out of the blue, but Bun at first hangs up on him, believing it's a prank call. Jay calls back again, convinces Bun it's really him, and says there's a song for his upcoming album he wants UGK on.
Right off the bat Pimp is unimpressed. He was originally supposed to be on Jay's "Just a Week Ago" but Pimp refused to fly to New York City to record it. If Jay Z wanted him on the song so bad, let Jay fly to Houston, and so the song never happened. Pimp moved for no man.
Bun convinces Pimp to at least give the song a listen, but when the tapes arrive in the mail (yes, tapes, this was way before email) Pimp's adamant. fu*k that. There's no way he's rapping on such a weird beat.
Bun's not about to let the opportunity pass, so he flies to New York, gets a taste of Roc-A-Fella at its peak, records his verse and then slowly but surely wears Pimp down and convinces him to get on the song, if only as a favor to him. Pimp relents, but on one condition - he's only giving Jay eight bars. Not a word more.
"'I said that's cool, eight bars, no problem, just get on the fu*king record. This song's gonna be a big deal. He sent it [his verse] back to me and I listened....eight bars. I just rapped for something like 20 bars trying to out rap Jay Z, and this motherfu*ker just did it in eight bars." - Bun B
"Things U Do" with Mariah Carey was initially supposed to be the big lead single off Vol. 3, but when that song fails to catch on Jay and Dame decide to change plans and give "Big Pimpin" the full single treatment. Plans for a huge video shoot in Trinidad with Hype Williams get underway.
Bun B misses his first flight and arrives at the video shoot in Trinidad a little late, expecting to see Pimp already there. Nope. Pimp has once again refused to leave Houston. At first Hype Williams can't believe Pimp would actually bail on the video shoot, keeps trying to convince him to come to no avail, and they leave Trinidad with a massive video for a massive single that has exactly and precisely zero seconds of Pimp C in it.
Why all the real ones got to die young.
