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This thread is one of the saddest things I’ve ever seen. Kyle Lowry better than Jason Kidd 


15-5 41% career playoff performer. You can spin it however you want. Saying he is the 2nd best point guard after Steph is idiotic.Last year he was 19/7/5 in the playoffs.
He wasnt the reason they got swept,the main reason is in San Antonio now...
2015-16 the year the Raptors went to the ECF Lowry had some MVP type performances...
It never gets talked about cuz of the narratives but when it really counted Game 7 vs Miami he was dominant and he was also dominant in games 3-4 against the Cavs to tie the series...
These nikkas simply choose what they want to remember, not what actually happened.Last year he was 19/7/5 in the playoffs.
He wasnt the reason they got swept,the main reason is in San Antonio now...
2015-16 the year the Raptors went to the ECF Lowry had some MVP type performances...
It never gets talked about cuz of the narratives but when it really counted Game 7 vs Miami he was dominant and he was also dominant in games 3-4 against the Cavs to tie the series...

These nikkas simply choose what they want to remember, not what actually happened.
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no point in arguing with him. Hes delusional wont ever admit it.The question isn't whether Lowry is crap. The question is whether he is better than Jason Kidd. As somebody who thought Kidd was overrated when he actually played, the answer is still NO.
I get the thought process, but let’s examine what Kidd’s skill set was for a moment. Up until maybe the last 4-5 seasons of his career, he couldn’t shoot worth a damn. He never became a good finisher either. The overwhelming majority of the credit he gets comes from leading the nets to the finals in 2002 and 2003. We need to consider how bad the rest of the east was that he could lead them to a top 2 seed while shooting 39% from the field on an entire season and that maybe the nets success had as much to do with how bad the east was, if not moreso than anything Kidd was doing. It’s not like he had any real playoff success in the west aside from 2011 either. With the exception of the two trips to the finals in New Jersey, that’s the only other time he reached the conference finals. That comes from his limited scoring ability. Since he couldn’t shoot or finish, he couldn’t play off the ball. This limits, and therefore hurts any offense he plays in off the strength that there isn’t a lot the offense can do since he needs the ball in his hands to be effective. It’s pretty much the same issue as rondo has these days except Kidd was better at the lineThe question isn't whether Lowry is crap. The question is whether he is better than Jason Kidd. As somebody who thought Kidd was overrated when he actually played, the answer is still NO.

That says more about how bad the spurs were besides Duncan. The kings or Mavericks should’ve won the west that year, but Webber and Dirk both blew out their knee in the playoffs. The spurs were really the third or fourth best team in the west that season.Jason kidd went to the finals with J.Collins as his starting center......Let that sink in for a second....They took San Antonio to 6 games....NJ was up by 10 points (69-59) early in the 4th qt of gm 6.......Kidd shot 4-9 in 4th qt and the rest of his teammates shot 1-15........NJ could have easily taken the Spurs to game 7 if someone other than Kidd had stepped up.
Stockton’s scoring totals were low by a product of his style of play, not an inability to score. Same as with Steve Nash. Kidd’s scoring totals were low because he straight up couldn’t put the ball in the basket. You had to guard Stockton for the jumper and the drive. You didn’t have to do either with Kidd.Some of you dudes are too caught up into scoring.......I guess Marbury was greater than Kidd......And Westbrook is better than Stockton.
I get the thought process, but let’s examine what Kidd’s skill set was for a moment. Up until maybe the last 4-5 seasons of his career, he couldn’t shoot worth a damn. He never became a good finisher either. The overwhelming majority of the credit he gets comes from leading the nets to the finals in 2002 and 2003. We need to consider how bad the rest of the east was that he could lead them to a top 2 seed while shooting 39% from the field on an entire season and that maybe the nets success had as much to do with, if not more, than anything Kidd was doing. It’s not like he had any real playoff success in the west aside from 2011 either. With the exception of the two trips to the finals in New Jersey, that’s the only other time he reached the conference finals. That comes from his limited scoring ability. Since he couldn’t shoot or finish, he couldn’t play off the ball. This limits, and therefore hurts any offense he plays in off the strength that there isn’t a lot the offense can do since he needs the ball in his hands to be effective. It’s pretty much the same issue as rondo has these days except Kidd was better at the line![]()
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Jason kidd went to the finals with J.Collins as his starting center......Let that sink in for a second....They took San Antonio to 6 games....NJ was up by 10 points (69-59) early in the 4th qt of gm 6.......Kidd shot 4-9 in 4th qt and the rest of his teammates shot 1-15........NJ could have easily taken the Spurs to game 7 if someone other than Kidd had stepped up.
Averaged 12 points and shot 32% while getting swept by the Wizards a year prior.
Kyle Lowry earned his rep.
And @Malta would be right. This version of Lowry is better than Kidd ever was.![]()