Do these drop at midnight or am I confusing them with kanan ?
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They took Abby muscles away to make her more likable. In the game you was supposed to sympathize with Abby over Joel and Ellie but fans still hated her and often made comments about her brolic disposition
Abby it's on site brolic bench!
You're arguing that the vaccine is just a nice-to-have.Like what in the hell are you talking about
besides people getting infected (which obviously is the most important factor) the vaccine , like literally does nothing to change the current society as it is
so your bullet points really don’t even make any sense
and to take a line from the first game, Joel does tell Ellie somewhere down the line that even though she’s immune, these infected significantly stronger & can still kill you
I’m arguing it was the only game-changing tool humanity had left.
Not a magic wand.
Not a full reset.
Just a door.
nuking the planet would’ve killed every single infected = stalkers , runners , clickers & bloaters etc. etc. …
as far the fungus/cordyceps itself— that’s why your brightest people would identify spores locations and avoid those areas and obviously don’t eat grains/wheat which we all know got this shyt started
and yes, it would be a very, very tough decision to nuke the planet with so many innocent people
But what is the difference from the current situation they wind it up with ; where damn near 70% of the entire world‘s population either died or became infected from the initial outbreak
and I still don’t understand why you think a vaccine changes everything in this iteration when you still have to deal with the current infected that’s literally trying to kill you at all cost
Other than a nuclear planet that eliminates all infected
1. “Nuking the planet would’ve killed every infected.”
Let’s pause there.Here’s why that wouldn’t work cleanly:
- Infected are everywhere.
You’re assuming they’re clustered in city centers or military zones. But in-game, we see infected in sewers, caves, tunnels, snowy mountains, forests — they’re dispersed.
- Nukes don’t guarantee spore death.
Cordyceps is airborne and heat-resistant in the lore.
Nuking would blow spores into the upper atmosphere and unintentionally spread them, unless the entire globe was glassed and irradiated. - Survivability of the “bunkers” plan is sci-fi level.
If 30% of the population is still uninfected (maybe 2 billion people worldwide), you're talking about wiping out billions of innocent survivors in hopes that maybe a few chosen elites last 50+ years in a bunker, repopulate the Earth, and maybe don’t bring Cordyceps back.
2. “The vaccine doesn’t solve the existing infected problem.”
That’s true — and here's the honest reply:Here's what changes:
- People stop turning.
- Survivors can travel, build, and form communities without risk of infection.
- You stop multiplying the threat.
Think about it like rats:
- If you stop feeding them (i.e., stop getting infected), their population dies off.
- You don’t need to cure the rats — just cut off the supply chain.
3. “What’s the difference between nuking everyone and what happened anyway?”
You’re saying: "70% died anyway — may as well have nuked them and rebuilt from scratch."But here’s the answer:
The Fireflies, FEDRA, Jackson, Abby’s camp — they’re all trying.
You don’t wipe them out just because a cleaner plan exists on paper.
Imagine telling Dina, Tommy, or Ellie:
That’s inhuman.
Nukes remove the infection by removing the people. The vaccine removes the infection while giving people a future.
You want a final solution.But The Last of Us isn’t about wiping the board.
It’s about how much we’re willing to do to preserve something — even when the world says it’s too late.
And Joel?
He preserved one person at the cost of the future.
You’re proposing preserving none to maybe build one 100 years later.
So tell me honestly:
If you were in that bunker and walked out 50 years later…
Would you be proud of what you saved?
so was just a typo
vaccine = 1. a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease
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vaccine = 1. a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease
that american multiple choice driven education system ... 
taught to do stuff but not how to think.
quote an official reference in FULL.
link and all.
but you won't
You're arguing that the vaccine is just a nice-to-have.
I’m arguing it was the only game-changing tool humanity had left.
Not a magic wand.
Not a full reset.
Just a door.
1. “Nuking the planet would’ve killed every infected.”
Let’s pause there.
Here’s why that wouldn’t work cleanly:
- Infected are everywhere.
You’re assuming they’re clustered in city centers or military zones. But in-game, we see infected in sewers, caves, tunnels, snowy mountains, forests — they’re dispersed.
That’s not utilitarianism. That’s selective genocide dressed up as strategy.
- Nukes don’t guarantee spore death.
Cordyceps is airborne and heat-resistant in the lore.
Nuking would blow spores into the upper atmosphere and unintentionally spread them, unless the entire globe was glassed and irradiated.- Survivability of the “bunkers” plan is sci-fi level.
If 30% of the population is still uninfected (maybe 2 billion people worldwide), you're talking about wiping out billions of innocent survivors in hopes that maybe a few chosen elites last 50+ years in a bunker, repopulate the Earth, and maybe don’t bring Cordyceps back.
That’s true — and here's the honest reply:
Here's what changes:
- People stop turning.
- Survivors can travel, build, and form communities without risk of infection.
- You stop multiplying the threat.
Think about it like rats:
- If you stop feeding them (i.e., stop getting infected), their population dies off.
- You don’t need to cure the rats — just cut off the supply chain.
You’re saying: "70% died anyway — may as well have nuked them and rebuilt from scratch."
But here’s the answer:
The Fireflies, FEDRA, Jackson, Abby’s camp — they’re all trying.
You don’t wipe them out just because a cleaner plan exists on paper.
Imagine telling Dina, Tommy, or Ellie:
That’s inhuman.
Nukes remove the infection by removing the people. The vaccine removes the infection while giving people a future.
You want a final solution.
But The Last of Us isn’t about wiping the board.
It’s about how much we’re willing to do to preserve something — even when the world says it’s too late.
And Joel?
He preserved one person at the cost of the future.
You’re proposing preserving none to maybe build one 100 years later.
So tell me honestly:
If you were in that bunker and walked out 50 years later…
Would you be proud of what you saved?
A simple Google = asking would a nuclear explosion kill cordyceps
Seems to me that you are moving the goal post when it comes to this nuclear explosion theory
So I ask you …. do you remember season 1 episode 2 the beginning/flashback from that episode ?
Where you had the Indonesian female scientist, is picked up by the military while she’s eating a lunch at a local restaurant where they take her to the facility to examine the specimen, then the dead individual as she pulls out a bunch of living/moving fungi outta their mouth
In the next scene, she’s sitting talking to the general telling him there’s no medication there’s no vaccine. There’s nothing. The only thing left is to bomb bomb bomb.
So no disrespect, you can come up with a whole bunch of mental gymnastics as you want, but the fact is I am and the overwhelming majority of intelligent/sane people are going to side with the female scientist who’s spent her whole career studying these type of cordyceps fungal disease
taught to do stuff but not how to think.
quote an official reference in FULL.
link and all.
but you won't
troll someone else
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Abby on the show looking more like Ellie in the game then Ellie on the show.