The November 30, 1994 Quad Shooting - What if it happened for this reasoning?

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He recorded this for Ron G the night of the Quad Studio shooting November 30, 1994 and Ron G put it on a Big L remix and called it “Deadly Combinations” - it’s said Ron G is related to west coast DJ Julio G

He was meant to record another for Little Shawn at Quad Studio and got robbed in the lobby by the elevator (I’ve been in that elevator circa November 2011)

I believe it was a botched robbery set-up by people that Tupac was running with that were even showering him with lavish gifts like Rolex watches (anyone check the validity of that Rolex though)

Tupac recorded for Ron G for free and was attempting to charge Little Shawn $10K - which makes sense because Little Shawn had an album budget. At first Jimmy Henchman expressed displeasure with this but then called back and agreed on the pricing

Nobody has mentioned until now that Little Shawn was also robbed of a Tupac guest appearance on his project that would probably still help push sales and streaming numbers to this day

But here is the gist of my thread



What if Ron G or someone associated had given wind that Tupac was recording for him for free but wanted to charge them. Personally if I or my crew gave you a Rolex and you wanna charge me the price of the Rolex after you just did a verse for free
I’mma feel like I want my Rolex back

People say that they didn’t take the Rolex off of him but alleviated him of all of his other jewelry as a message … well honestly most hoodlums probably don’t know how to take a Rolex off and probably are unlikely to experience that learning curve at close quarters while multiple guns are involved

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

Nah. It happened for the reasons you already know. People have always did mixtape verses for free because they were seen as marketing and they’ve always charged for album verses because they know the label can afford it out of the budget.

The reason why NY nikkas don’t respect 2Pac is because it wasn’t some big secret who shot him. Tut and Jack weren’t even denying it. So him starting a war and blaming big and puff until he could hide behind Suge and talk shyt was lame.

 

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Nah. It happened for the reasons you already know. People have always did mixtape verses for free because they were seen as marketing and they’ve always charged for album verses because they know the label can afford it out of the budget.

The reason why NY nikkas don’t respect 2Pac is because it wasn’t some big secret who shot him. Tut and Jack weren’t even denying it. So him starting a war and blaming big and puff until he could hide behind Suge and talk shyt was lame.

What would you of done in that situation?

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

What would you of done in that situation?

What situation? The charging for the verse or the robbery?

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Who cares

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

What situation? The charging for the verse or the robbery?

In regard to robbery and it’s aftermath


It seemed like when he was running with Stretch, Stretch and his brother were essentially immediately ready to bow down to his enemies. According to recent interviews there were even calls between both factions so it’s obvious Tupac needed new people around him

 

[Tflasha]

New York nikkas with their regularly scheduled programmed DuckTales
.. that L is eternal

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

In regard to robbery and it’s aftermath


It seemed like when he was running with Stretch, Stretch and his brother were essentially immediately ready to bow down to his enemies. According to recent interviews there were even calls between both factions so it’s obvious Tupac needed new people around him

2Pac wasn’t a street dude running with really really street dudes. That never ends well for anyone famous or not so whatever happened in that hotel room got him caught up by association. When shyt gets real that’s when rappers start acting like they were always just rap and distancing themselves from the street nikkas they were getting clout off of. That was the Jeezy/BMF issue.

But in regards to the robbery, PAC didn’t know who to trust right after so everyone became a suspect or could’ve been in on so a guy like stretch telling pac he needs to come to the studio now looks like he was in on it when he really just wanted him to come work. The Quad robbery just showed that 2Pac had ZERO street smarts because his argument that studios full of people minding their business should have warned him about something that they had no knowledge of because they knew the guys who did it, but he didn’t listen to those same people when they told him associating with those dudes would lead to trouble. Jimmy Henchman who was Lil Shawn’s manager put the whole robbery together but pac never accused Lil Shawn of knowing about the set up but somehow puff and big did?

 

[bigde09]

2Pac wasn’t a street dude running with really really street dudes. That never ends well for anyone famous or not so whatever happened in that hotel room got him caught up by association. When shyt gets real that’s when rappers start acting like they were always just rap and distancing themselves from the street nikkas they were getting clout off of. That was the Jeezy/BMF issue.

But in regards to the robbery, PAC didn’t know who to trust right after so everyone became a suspect or could’ve been in on so a guy like stretch telling pac he needs to come to the studio now looks like he was in on it when he really just wanted him to come work. The Quad robbery just showed that 2Pac had ZERO street smarts because his argument that studios full of people minding their business should have warned him about something that they had no knowledge of because they knew the guys who did it, but he didn’t listen to those same people when they told him associating with those dudes would lead to trouble. Jimmy Henchman who was Lil Shawn’s manager put the whole robbery together but pac never accused Lil Shawn of knowing about the set up but somehow puff and big did?

How Pac went about it was wrong. But he was right for feeling he couldn't trust anyone. Dropping Who Shot Ya a few weeks later and then you have Biggie throwing shots in a sneaky way with other NY rappers wasn't a good look. They put Lil Cease on the balcony so Pac would drop his guard going into quad. Lil Shawn was crying after Pac got shot cuz because he felt guilty. Everyone in the studio knew what was gonna happen with Pac that night. They were trying to embarrass him in front of a ton of rappers that night for talking shyt in the news papers about Jack.



This was filmed before Hit Em Up iirc.

They were all throwing shots.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

The main question I've had about that 2pac/Ron G recording is what kind of equipment did Ron G have in his house back in 1994? This was the tape era. For Ron G to get crystal clear vocals like that back in 1994 IN HIS HOME, wtf was he using??? And more importantly, how did a mixtape DJ have access to a high-quality studio equipment in his home, but 2pac and other rappers didn't?

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

How Pac went about it was wrong. But he was right for feeling he couldn't trust anyone. Dropping Who Shot Ya a few weeks later and then you have Biggie throwing shots in a sneaky way with other NY rappers wasn't a good look. They put Lil Cease on the balcony so Pac would drop his guard going into quad. Lil Shawn was crying after Pac got shot cuz because he felt guilty. Everyone in the studio knew what was gonna happen with Pac that night. They were trying to embarrass him in front of a ton of rappers that night for talking shyt in the news papers about Jack.



This was filmed before Hit Em Up iirc.

They were all throwing shots.

All the rappers in NYC knew hanging with those dudes wasn't going to end good and they all warned him. He didn't listen and decided to slander Jack. Outside of Henchmen and probably Lil Shawn nobody knew what was going to happen that night. People say the studio like Quad is just one big studio. There's multiple studios there. Bad boy and Lil Shawn sessions were in different rooms so when they make it seem like everyone was in one room plotting on pac that's not true. Nobody put cease on the balcony. The way the quad lobby is set up makes it perfect to ambush anyone. If all the rappers were in on it and they wanted to embarrass him they would've let him go upstairs into the session with Jimmy Henchmen. Tupac did all that extra shyt to sell records and cover up that he had ZERO street smarts.

 

[Stick Up Kid]

Nah. It happened for the reasons you already know. People have always did mixtape verses for free because they were seen as marketing and they’ve always charged for album verses because they know the label can afford it out of the budget.

The reason why NY nikkas don’t respect 2Pac is because it wasn’t some big secret who shot him. Tut and Jack weren’t even denying it. So him starting a war and blaming big and puff until he could hide behind Suge and talk shyt was lame.

Pac got love in NY breh

 

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The main question I've had about that 2pac/Ron G recording is what kind of equipment did Ron G have in his house back in 1994? This was the tape era. For Ron G to get crystal clear vocals like that back in 1994 IN HIS HOME, wtf was he using??? And more importantly, how did a mixtape DJ have access to a high-quality studio equipment in his home, but 2pac and other rappers didn't?

I would assume that the man ran a home studio of some sorts

 

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How Pac went about it was wrong. But he was right for feeling he couldn't trust anyone. Dropping Who Shot Ya a few weeks later and then you have Biggie throwing shots in a sneaky way with other NY rappers wasn't a good look. They put Lil Cease on the balcony so Pac would drop his guard going into quad. Lil Shawn was crying after Pac got shot cuz because he felt guilty. Everyone in the studio knew what was gonna happen with Pac that night. They were trying to embarrass him in front of a ton of rappers that night for talking shyt in the news papers about Jack.



This was filmed before Hit Em Up iirc.

They were all throwing shots.

This was before Hit ‘Em Up? Then why did Biggie say if Faith had twins she’s probably have “two Pac’s?”

2Pac wasn’t a street dude running with really really street dudes. That never ends well for anyone famous or not so whatever happened in that hotel room got him caught up by association. When shyt gets real that’s when rappers start acting like they were always just rap and distancing themselves from the street nikkas they were getting clout off of. That was the Jeezy/BMF issue.

But in regards to the robbery, PAC didn’t know who to trust right after so everyone became a suspect or could’ve been in on so a guy like stretch telling pac he needs to come to the studio now looks like he was in on it when he really just wanted him to come work. The Quad robbery just showed that 2Pac had ZERO street smarts because his argument that studios full of people minding their business should have warned him about something that they had no knowledge of because they knew the guys who did it, but he didn’t listen to those same people when they told him associating with those dudes would lead to trouble. Jimmy Henchman who was Lil Shawn’s manager put the whole robbery together but pac never accused Lil Shawn of knowing about the set up but somehow puff and big did?

There’s also the financial aspect of this group extorting Bad Boy so it was his intention to destroy the value

I remember this group of people referred to as the Black Mafia … is this the same BMF that’s known for Big Meech?

Wasn’t Jimmy Henchman moving coke on Interscope artist tour buses in recent years?

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

This was before Hit ‘Em Up? Then why did Biggie say if Faith had twins she’s probably have “two Pac’s?”

There’s also the financial aspect of this group extorting Bad Boy so it was his intention to destroy the value

I remember this group of people referred to as the Black Mafia … is this the same BMF that’s known for Big Meech?

Wasn’t Jimmy Henchman moving coke on Interscope artist tour buses in recent years?

BMF wasn’t extorting puff. BMF weren’t extortionist. BMF was protecting puff. Why he was always in Atlanta all the time in the early years of bad boy. It’s why there’s a Justin’s in Atlanta. It’s why he felt comfortable enough to scream at Suge to his face in Atlanta. It didn’t go sour until BMF killed Wolf.