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I'm saying calling out Surf for getting help because they both used basketball schemes as your reasoning is beyond a reach. Surf, like A LOT of Black men for that matter, uses basketball references constantly even in regular conversation.

Yeah but its the way hes doing it. Like all that 22 after 12 thats nash like that shyt is convoluted as hell, the laker one was fire and the heat one was only cause of the name flip it made sense u don is haslim but in general ored the only other one that really does those types of schemes so its not that far of a stretch
 

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This is where I struggle.

On one hand, Lux on a ticket sells dumb tickets, and probably gets his opponent a ton of attention.
On the other hand, Lux battles so infrequently that I have a hard time with the "deserve" and "of Lux stature." One battle a year = you better show up with that good shyt. I can't deny that the nikka managed to choke an entire round and still put a bold star on battlerap's timeline in the same battle... but damn I struggle with the pedestal his skills are put on (with regards to matchups).

I guess nigs put Lux as the final boss in that game that only 1-2 nikkas beat. On some Shao Khan on very hard type shyt.
I just see him as Noob Saibot. It's dope that you figured out how to get that match, and even doper if you win and put him on your list.. but there's more game left to play...


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mmmkay?
mmkay?
I swear I always loved this analogy, it fits so well wit da perception of him lol
 

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We can argue all we want. End of day to battle rappers Mook,Lux and Hollow are the final bosses. If you get to battle them your on the top. Cant blame Lux and Hollow for taking advantage of that. fukk Mook tho
 

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in an ideal world I would agree but its just how it is. Daylyt himself was more bars and was getting no love, he saw it was all about image, now he took it to a different place than acting tough or talking shyt I agree but hes not alone in being a gimmick, lux himself is a gimmick and his greediness isnt "good for the culture" to me

There he go with that back then talk.
Daylyt BEEN one of the most popular nikkaa in the game so he's contradicting himself every on the daily
Matterfact he was on record sayin he's the good and the bad in battlerap at the same time.
So why nikkas can't accept when he gets called out for the bad shyt he pulls.

You nikkas have the audacity to call lux greedy Jesus Christ man

Lux was paid 20-25k, went in on Calicoe until he choked cause of crowdreaction and STILL blessed us with the most monumental moment in battlerap history ever!!! FACTS!
This nikka had JAY Z tweeting the shyt my nikka JAY Z
Everybody was calling each other beloved and king.
nikkas started rappin like him.
And lemme not got started on how Daylyt is his son cause that shyt don't even matter

Mook was paid 25k, and put nikkas to SLEEP.
Lux asked for 40K his next which makes sense since he propelled Hiphop to levels it hasn't reached SINCE THEN. Yet nikkas got the audacity to call him greedy.

His next battle him and Hollow both blessed us with one of the GOAT battle of all time.
Both deserved every penny they got paid.

Then he faced Mook, which he got paid MORE for cause of multiple reasons.

the monumental matchup.
But on top off that, the shyt was PPV and was shown on TV, which means you have to pay a BUYOUT. That's how media works so his asking price makes sense.
He was weaker one in a weak battle.
But so what if he lost, it wasn't because of his EFFORT so he can't be compared to Daylyt/Clips/Rex
Should he get paid the same for his next battle, ofcourse not because the platform won't be the
Shyt ain't rocket science

Even tho Mook was weak as hell, i can't do anything but salute him for beating Lux.
With that Said fukk Mook's delusional ass

Anyone that followed battlerap doesn't need me to explain why Hollow is one of the GOATS
No excuses, no complaining, willing to do shyt for the culture STILL like taking Bigg K right now simply because he likes the competition.
That nikka is the definition of a true champ in the game, a MC to the core

Lol again with this lux greed shyt. How is he still being greedy?. From a business standpoint Lux name sells crazy tickets. If you are a fan 9/10 your going to get your moneys worth hearing Lux in a battle. Lets be clear this aint Mook. Battle rap has grew into another playing field its money to be made... serious money. I hate to bring Nba analogy into it but everybody aint The Gawd Tim Duncan, a huge pay cut dont pay bills in battle rap. As long as you give 100% effort when you touch that stage, why would the rest of that shyt still be significance to anybody.

Exactly

This is where I struggle.

On one hand, Lux on a ticket sells dumb tickets, and probably gets his opponent a ton of attention.
On the other hand, Lux battles so infrequently that I have a hard time with the "deserve" and "of Lux stature." One battle a year = you better show up with that good shyt. I can't deny that the nikka managed to choke an entire round and still put a bold star on battlerap's timeline in the same battle... but damn I struggle with the pedestal his skills are put on (with regards to matchups).

I guess nigs put Lux as the final boss in that game that only 1-2 nikkas beat. On some Shao Khan on very hard type shyt.
I just see him as Noob Saibot. It's dope that you figured out how to get that match, and even doper if you win and put him on your list.. but there's more game left to play...
....
mmmkay?
mmkay?

He gave us good shyt against Calicoe
And against Hollow, what's the problem?
He was weak against Mook, but Arsonal aka Mr Filler was the only one that showed out on that card
And that card had Lux, Mook, Hollow on it so that's not a strong argument imo

Lux is the final boss because nikkas respect his talent, legendary performances, stature and what he brought to the game with Lionz Den
nikkas gotta respect him

There was a time where NOBODY wanted to face him.
His notoriety spoke for himself

Lux/Hollow/Mook will be the final level bosses wether nikkas like it or not
 

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At what point does Xcel begin to feel shame about what is happening to his career?

He has a name, and the talent is there, regardless of whether people think he's boring or not. He seems to have confidence & a strong sense of self. But he can't possibly believe he is putting his best foot forward, can he?
 

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At what point does Xcel begin to feel shame about what is happening to his career?

He has a name, and the talent is there, regardless of whether people think he's boring or not. He seems to have confidence & a strong sense of self. But he can't possibly believe he is putting his best foot forward, can he?

he got what he wanted, this is the consequences to deal with. Not everyone is built to cleanly battle at the rate he was trying to do without fukking up.

Has there been anyone to do that? to battle so frequently and put on nothing but choke/stumble free performances.
 

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Has there been anyone to do that? to battle so frequently and put on nothing but choke/stumble free performances.

Unless I'm forgetting an obvious choke JC comes to mind

Dude takes a lot of battles and is consistently good

Math also had that crazy run leading up to SM3 and besides that awful 2nd round against shotty horror was extremely consistent

You could probably throw Bigg K in there too, he hasn't lost or choked in a while unless I'm forgetting something. But too a lesser extent because he doesn't battle that often

Side note; why is every talking about Lux being greedy again? (Which I agree with). what prompted that. Is he not taking the clips battle?
 

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At what point does Xcel begin to feel shame about what is happening to his career?

He has a name, and the talent is there, regardless of whether people think he's boring or not. He seems to have confidence & a strong sense of self. But he can't possibly believe he is putting his best foot forward, can he?

A Guy like Xcel isnt supposed to have a career in hip hop though. An MC is still a master of ceremonies. Xcel couldn't rock a chair at a nursing home.
 

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There he go with that back then talk.
Daylyt BEEN one of the most popular nikkaa in the game so he's contradicting himself every on the daily
Matterfact he was on record sayin he's the good and the bad in battlerap at the same time.
So why nikkas can't accept when he gets called out for the bad shyt he pulls.

You nikkas have the audacity to call lux greedy Jesus Christ man

Lux was paid 20-25k, went in on Calicoe until he choked cause of crowdreaction and STILL blessed us with the most monumental moment in battlerap history ever!!! FACTS!
This nikka had JAY Z tweeting the shyt my nikka JAY Z
Everybody was calling each other beloved and king.
nikkas started rappin like him.
And lemme not got started on how Daylyt is his son cause that shyt don't even matter

Mook was paid 25k, and put nikkas to SLEEP.
Lux asked for 40K his next which makes sense since he propelled Hiphop to levels it hasn't reached SINCE THEN. Yet nikkas got the audacity to call him greedy.



His next battle him and Hollow both blessed us with one of the GOAT battle of all time.
Both deserved every penny they got paid.

Then he faced Mook, which he got paid MORE for cause of multiple reasons.

the monumental matchup.
But on top off that, the shyt was PPV and was shown on TV, which means you have to pay a BUYOUT. That's how media works so his asking price makes sense.
He was weaker one in a weak battle.
But so what if he lost, it wasn't because of his EFFORT so he can't be compared to Daylyt/Clips/Rex
Should he get paid the same for his next battle, ofcourse not because the platform won't be the
Shyt ain't rocket science

Even tho Mook was weak as hell, i can't do anything but salute him for beating Lux.
With that Said fukk Mook's delusional ass

Anyone that followed battlerap doesn't need me to explain why Hollow is one of the GOATS
No excuses, no complaining, willing to do shyt for the culture STILL like taking Bigg K right now simply because he likes the competition.
That nikka is the definition of a true champ in the game, a MC to the core



Exactly



He gave us good shyt against Calicoe
And against Hollow, what's the problem?
He was weak against Mook, but Arsonal aka Mr Filler was the only one that showed out on that card
And that card had Lux, Mook, Hollow on it so that's not a strong argument imo

Lux is the final boss because nikkas respect his talent, legendary performances, stature and what he brought to the game with Lionz Den
nikkas gotta respect him

There was a time where NOBODY wanted to face him.
His notoriety spoke for himself

Lux/Hollow/Mook will be the final level bosses wether nikkas like it or not

How was Daylyt always popular ? He didnt get popular until the philly swain/rich dollaz battles and even THAT was a gimmick cause he purposely was extra aggressive. He was never popular before that even though he always had bars like vs cocky,blackheart, pass, locksmith but he had no gimmick behind him he wasnt even that aggressive especially the grindtime battles. Now hes easily what top 5 in popularity.
 
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