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Hello everyone,

For the past few days, I have discussed the creation of a 'think tank' on the Coli. Specifically, in the Root. I've come across so many posts which have great ideas for uplifting Africa and the global Black diaspora as a whole. This thread, perhaps can be a place where we post these ideas and explain how they can work. Moreover, this thread can be a place where we discuss the merits of ideas for our betterment. I shall start by posting an idea below.
 

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The Afro-Atlantic Network

  • A union of majority Black states and regions around the periphery of the Atlantic with the purpose of supporting economic, educational and cultural development of Black peoples. The eventual goal should be a customs union, however it should start by participating countries having agreements recognizing the legitimacy of licenses and academic degrees. Thus, enabling greater economic freedoms.

    Furthermore, the basis of the agreement should be these following freedoms for the citizens of this network: Freedom of travel, work, study.

    Moreover, there should be a uniform system of contract law and commercial arbitration across participating states.
  • Another goal of this network should be the setting up of an 'Afro-Atlantic University'. It should have sattelite campuses across the region. For example, Lagos, Atlanta, Havana, Kingston and Monrovia could have sattellite campuses. Thus, forming the 'spine' of an Afro-Atlantic elite who could carry out the work of the network. The network could expand to further academic study for Black uplift.
  • Cultural centres can be a part of this network too.
 

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Afro-Atlantic University System

  • Satellite universities around the Black Atlantic. Flagship campuses could be in places like Monrovia, Havana and Port of Spain as well as three in the United States (Charleston, Atlanta and Houston for example)
  • Goal should be the development of an Afro-Atlantic mercantile, cultural and political elite.
 

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Afro-Atlantic University System

  • Satellite universities around the Black Atlantic. Flagship campuses could be in places like Monrovia, Havana and Port of Spain as well as three in the United States (Charleston, Atlanta and Houston for example)
  • Goal should be the development of an Afro-Atlantic mercantile, cultural and political elite.
This actually sounds interesting...
 

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The African Freedom Congress

(I've posted this idea before but I might as well share it again)

  • First, it's not strange or unethical for ethnic groups to have their own party vehicles for their political interests. African-Americans are actually an ethnic group within the United States that has been formed by the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and shaped by the American Apartheid (Jim Crow). In other countries, ethnic groups have their own parties. In the UK, there's the Scottish Nationalist Party. In Canada, there's the Parti Quebecois. In India, there's the Sikh political party of SAD.

    These ethnic groups have their own political parties because they recognize that their interests are unique and distinct. Moreover, their ability to obtain public goods and services are harmed by joining other political parties. Although African-Americans are a key voting bloc for the Democrats, very few of our concerns are addressed. Even when the US President IS a self-identified African-American (Barack Obama). We need a political party which will cater to our interests in order to gain what is ours!

    Let's construct the hypothetical African-American political party.
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Goals should be simple, for now: Increased political autonomy for African-Americans. Stronger social safety net to address poor socio-economic conditions geared towards Black people. Reparations for stolen land, labour and wealth. Increased connections with the African diaspora and African continent. Entice Black people to become the majority of states such as South Carolina, Mississippi and Georgia via migration.

The party should operate solely in municipal, gubernatorial and congressional elections.

Why not Presidential elections?
We can't win. African Americans are 13 per cent of the US population and will rise to 15 per cent by mid-century. What we can do is our political leverage in an increasingly polarizing US to move at least one major political party towards us.

Why municipal elections?
We are the demographic majority in major cities.

Why gubernatorial elections?
To protect our gains in the pockets of black political autonomy located in cities. To act as a spoiler vote similar to how we'd function during Presidential elections.

Why congressional elections?
To incentivize more legislation which will directly benefit us. They (at least one party) will need our votes in order to pass bills.
 

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A few questions?

what would be the institute's position on private firearm ownership?
what would be the institute's position with regard to certification for its educational bodies, would it seek to creat its own accreditation body or would it try to piggy back of more established bodies?
 

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A few questions?

what would be the institute's position on private firearm ownership?
what would be the institute's position with regard to certification for its educational bodies, would it seek to creat its own accreditation body or would it try to piggy back of more established bodies?

- Personally, I'm for the possession of firearms.

- Unfortunately, I'm not too familiar with the various systems which can be adopted for accreditation. How do governments like the United States and France set up state-sponsored schools in other countries (ex. The American University of Cairo)? Let's look at their models first, then propose a system which can be funded primarily by a body of Afro-Atlantic states and private sponsors.

However, we must be careful not to relinquish control to private sponsors (Soros) or Washington backed institutions (World Bank). Or even states (China).

That may mean starting small but autonomy is more important than initial size.

Thoughts?
 

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- The point on firearms requires further nuance. We have seen the negative drawbacks of a society which has weak gun-control regulation like the United States. Yet, we must balance that with the knowledge that Afro diasporic populations live in societies which are often white supremacist/tyrannical. Individuals should have the means to protect themselves. How a balance is carved out should be based upon the needs, desires, cultural practices of Black/Black diaspora states, but I'm personally for firearms and I would advocate for us to adopt a position which would promote such an idea.
 

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- Personally, I'm for the possession of firearms.

- Unfortunately, I'm not too familiar with the various systems which can be adopted for accreditation. How do governments like the United States and France set up state-sponsored schools in other countries (ex. The American University of Cairo)? Let's look at their models first, then propose a system which can be funded primarily by a body of Afro-Atlantic states and private sponsors.

However, we must be careful not to relinquish control to private sponsors (Soros) or Washington backed institutions (World Bank). Or even states (China).

That may mean starting small but autonomy is more important than initial size.

Thoughts?
Well its cool that firearm ownership in private hands is accepted.

As for accreditation I don't know how european nations start them, but I would think the nation model wouldn't be appropriate, the institute itself could develop the standard required for membership initially and for more schools to enter in teh future. That said as long as the institutional body of accreditation stayed in black hands, more importantly black hands dedicated to the movement, things would be fine.

One more question, what type of economics is supported by this instituted, is it socialist leaning or more free market leaning?
 

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Well its cool that firearm ownership in private hands is accepted.

As for accreditation I don't know how european nations start them, but I would think the nation model wouldn't be appropriate, the institute itself could develop the standard required for membership initially and for more schools to enter in teh future. That said as long as the institutional body of accreditation stayed in black hands, more importantly black hands dedicated to the movement, things would be fine.

One more question, what type of economics is supported by this instituted, is it socialist leaning or more free market leaning?

- Cool.

- I'm wary of socialism given how it's been used on the African continent (funnily enough Nkrumah's name is mentioned in the Institute's name!). But I think there should be some measure of de-commodification for important things like public utilities (water, electricity) and healthcare. Individuals should feel free to advocate ideas which they believe would work in various African/Global African diaspora contexts.

At the end of the day....

"It doesn't matter whether a cat is white or black, as long as it catches mice." - Deng Xiaoping

:yeshrug:
 

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- The point on firearms requires further nuance. We have seen the negative drawbacks of a society which has weak gun-control regulation like the United States. Yet, we must balance that with the knowledge that Afro diasporic populations live in societies which are often white supremacist/tyrannical. Individuals should have the means to protect themselves. How a balance is carved out should be based upon the needs, desires, cultural practices of Black/Black diaspora states, but I'm personally for firearms and I would advocate for us to adopt a position which would promote such an idea.

I would argue that US gun ownership and the crime in the US isn't a product of gun control itself, but war on drugs more than anything else. There is billions of dollars spent in the drug trade in the US, if there is no way to settle disputes legally, violence will be the result, just like it was with the violent crime explosion during alcohol prohibition. I believe if it was removed the gun homicides would drop soundly to a rate more aligned with Europe while having same low rate. I believe switzerland and germany have very similar laws as the US in reality, and in some instances for more liberal with the avaiablability of short barrels and silencers and they have lower gun violent crime rates than the US, while Mexico and latin american countries have more gun restrictions than the US with higher gun crimes and higher violent crime rate overall.
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That said would your group's objective be to one day have the ability to confiscate and ban private arms or are you hoping that one day people will still have the right to ownership but just decide not to purchase?

That said I don't want to get off track and sthanks for going deeper in your explanation with me.
 

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I would argue that US gun ownership and the crime in the US isn't a product of gun control itself, but war on drugs more than anything else. There is billions of dollars spent in the drug trade in the US, if there is no way to settle disputes legally, violence will be the result, just like it was with the violent crime explosion during alcohol prohibition. I believe if it was removed the gun homicides would drop soundly to a rate more aligned with Europe while having same low rate. I believe switzerland and germany have very similar laws as the US in reality, and in some instances for more liberal with the avaiablability of short barrels and silencers and they have lower gun violent crime rates than the US, while Mexico and latin american countries have more gun restrictions than the US with higher gun crimes and higher violent crime rate overall.
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That said would your group's objective be to one day have the ability to confiscate and ban private arms or are you hoping that one day people will still have the right to ownership but just decide not to purchase?

That said I don't want to get off track and sthanks for going deeper in your explanation with me.

- You raise very good points regarding the US "War on Drugs". I think you're largely correct.

- Re: the future of gun ownership; Latter, but it would never occur.
 
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