There Havnt Been Any Classic Albums In The Past 10 Years

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tapes like trap or die were around in the '90s. that chit is nothing new.

and even if they weren't, how would that even support the point that you were trying to make?

well that's not true. the mixtapes you hear now are just free albums that aren't barcoded. That's not how mixtapes were being made back in the day. If you had 14 brand new songs, that shyt was going on an album, getting released, and that's that (and if you had less than that, EP's were out all the time). Now you need to put out those songs on a mixtape to keep your buzz up. It's not the same thing.
 

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well that's not true. the mixtapes you hear now are just free albums that aren't barcoded. That's not how mixtapes were being made back in the day. If you had 14 brand new songs, that shyt was going on an album, getting released, and that's that (and if you had less than that, EP's were out all the time). Now you need to put out those songs on a mixtape to keep your buzz up. It's not the same thing.

yes, joints like that were being made in the '90s as well.

2pac's crowning achievement was supposed to be released as a mixtape or underground street album. whichever classification floats your boat.

it may not have been a regular occurrence like it is now, but so what? its nothing new. and I still don't see the point that youre trying to make.
 

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you don't decide if an album is a classic or not.

the culture is what gives the classic status to an album and a lot of them have been in the classic debates. The culture changes, for better or for worse, so let's stop with the "it's not respectful for the history"

Just to name a few:

The Documentary
College Dropout
Food and Liquor
Below The Heavens
Good Kid mAAd City
Be
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
The Cool
Cuban Linx 2
...


no one cares if you agree or not, what is "considered" as classic will be classic, they represent a generation, point blank.

Here's the problem. From who? For example calling Good Kid Maad City a classic even though it's not even a year old and we haven't yet seen the lasting impact that album will make is premature and the opposite of what I'm trying to tell @Wacky D. There's people that will never call anything they didn't grow up on a classic and then there's people that will call something a classic within 5 minutes of hearing it. Some shyt we just gotta let breathe (and even the albums in music that were hailed monumental instantly, you saw an immediate impact on the culture of the music taking place.)

It's like sports and the hall of fame. Even if you feel they'll be hall of famers one day, they make your ass wait 5 years so we can REFLECT and take in what you've accomplished. Hip-hop doesn't seem to wanna just let shyt marinate.
 

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yes, joints like that were being made in the '90s as well.

2pac's crowning achievement was supposed to be released as a mixtape or underground street album. whichever classification floats your boat.

it may not have been a regular occurrence like it is now, but so what? its nothing new. and I still don't see the point that youre trying to make.

But it wasn't. You made my point for me.
 

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Here's the problem. From who? For example calling Good Kid Maad City a classic even though it's not even a year old and we haven't yet seen the lasting impact that album will make is premature and the opposite of what I'm trying to tell @Wacky D. There's people that will never call anything they didn't grow up on a classic and then there's people that will call something a classic within 5 minutes of hearing it. Some shyt we just gotta let breathe (and even the albums in music that were hailed monumental instantly, you saw an immediate impact on the culture of the music taking place.)

It's like sports and the hall of fame. Even if you feel they'll be hall of famers one day, they make your ass wait 5 years so we can REFLECT and take in what you've accomplished. Hip-hop doesn't seem to wanna just let shyt marinate.

and im saying, don't put me in either of those groups, cuz its not the case with me.

and yes, some classics are immediate. there havnt been any of those since the '90s tho.

and some hall of famers, you can call in real-time. Adrian Peterson for example. this is just his 6th season, but we knew he was a lock for the hall like a year or 2 ago.

BUT you can tell which albums will never be a real classic. and that's basically everything that dropped in the past 10 years. toby gerhart will never be a hall of famer.
 

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you don't decide if an album is a classic or not.

the culture is what gives the classic status to an album and a lot of them have been in the classic debates. The culture changes, for better or for worse, so let's stop with the "it's not respectful for the history"

Just to name a few:

The Documentary
College Dropout
Food and Liquor
Below The Heavens
Good Kid mAAd City
Be
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
The Cool
Cuban Linx 2
...


no one cares if you agree or not, what is "considered" as classic will be classic, they represent a generation, point blank.

lol @ acting like its just me saying this. get around some people that know their chit and what they might say could crush your spirit buddy.:beli:

youre listing chit that's generally considered classic by people that don't even know what a classic is.

and some of these albums youre listing aren't even good, let alone classic.

the culture clowned MDTF a classic? what culture would that be? CERTAINLY NOT THE HIP-HOP CULTURE.
 

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and im saying, don't put me in either of those groups, cuz its not the case with me.

and yes, some classics are immediate. there havnt been any of those since the '90s tho.

and some hall of famers, you can call in real-time. Adrian Peterson for example. this is just his 6th season, but we knew he was a lock for the hall like a year or 2 ago.

BUT you can tell which albums will never be a real classic. and that's basically everything that dropped in the past 10 years. toby gerhart will never be a hall of famer.

Adrian Peterson has a body of work to support that kind of distinction. This will be his seventh year and he'll have 10,000 career yards. We've seen it play out over time. Jumping the gun woulda been you calling him a hall of fame lock after his rookie year, and even then, he'll still have to keep putting in work just so we can see if he gets in first ballot.

and even calling it in real time could burn you. Ask anyone that thought Penny Hardaway was gonna be a lock

Some shyt you can "tell" but other times, things take on a life of their own, and even the shyt you can tell, you gotta be sure about, because nowadays everyone's gonna have a "feeling" about some shyt they like one day being a classic album.
 

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Adrian Peterson has a body of work to support that kind of distinction. This will be his seventh year and he'll have 10,000 career yards. We've seen it play out over time. Jumping the gun woulda been you calling him a hall of fame lock after his rookie year, and even then, he'll still have to keep putting in work just so we can see if he gets in first ballot.

and even calling it in real time could burn you. Ask anyone that thought Penny Hardaway was gonna be a lock

Some shyt you can "tell" but other times, things take on a life of their own, and even the shyt you can tell, you gotta be sure about, because nowadays everyone's gonna have a "feeling" about some shyt they like one day being a classic album.

true dat. but he was a lock by year 5. that would be the equivalent of an instant classic album imho.

penny got hurt tho. that's a bad comparison.

the bolded I agree with. that's because the term classic has become a trendy phenomenon.

back in the day, we weren't even concerned with something being a classic.

but sometimes you just had that feeling right off the bat. when I 1st heard the chronic & doggystyle, I knew they were gonna go down as classics. while dogg food is an album that didn't give you that feeling, but it was still a great album and its status never got ruled out, which allowed it to become a classic over time unlike most of the many other hot albums that were just that......hot but will never contend for classic status.

I know you know what I mean, but I bet I lost most of the thread's detractors midway thru this post.
 
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