Time isn't real
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Huellz Santana
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Domingo Halliburton
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what's with you guys upping these old threads?
Namekian Maranantha
...Ammmeeeen.
I've always considered the possibility of slowing down aging by simply losing track of time and going into the mind state that it's always the same time. Would it work on a super minor level?
I'm convinced it could work
I'm afraid time doesnt exist as such in the natural world of phenomenon.
Lets not confuse rythm for "time." There is such a thing as rythm: Rythm of the tides, stars, moon, various biological processes . What we call time is a social convention on measuring those rythms and motions - In the same way inches is used for length, money is used for "wealth", thoughts and concepts are used for what is interpreted as "reality."
Or to put it anoter way, Time is nothing less than the product of thought; with thought being the product of working-memory.
So time = the process of an abstracted image or memory of a an event (rythm, motion etc.), contrasting itself to what it perceives as happening "now," and then contrasting that to the projection it "hopes" or anticipates in the "future.” From all that the idea of time is born...only as an idea - not as a 'direct' experience of its own.
Do we in our daily life experience time as in "the past" or "the future"? Or do we simply experience "Now" and continue to experience NOW? Its only when we start to make mental images and "remember" what happened and contrast it to some future mental projection does time shows its face. That is start thinking.
Or when we observe our clocks.
If we are not thinking the very concept of time is none existent...it would not even be an issue - we would jus "be."
So I am suggesting, as far as I can perceive, time is strictly within the mechanics of thought.
Outside the mechanics of thought (or the brain) time does not seem to exist.
When thought is not, time is not. Things just "are.”
I see you don't know much about physics, time is real (yet, relative), though if you were around 200+ years ago you probably would've made a good cult leaderI'm convinced it could work
I'm afraid time doesnt exist as such in the natural world of phenomenon.
Lets not confuse rythm for "time." There is such a thing as rythm: Rythm of the tides, stars, moon, various biological processes . What we call time is a social convention on measuring those rythms and motions - In the same way inches is used for length, money is used for "wealth", thoughts and concepts are used for what is interpreted as "reality."
Or to put it anoter way, Time is nothing less than the product of thought; with thought being the product of working-memory.
So time = the process of an abstracted image or memory of a an event (rythm, motion etc.), contrasting itself to what it perceives as happening "now," and then contrasting that to the projection it "hopes" or anticipates in the "future.” From all that the idea of time is born...only as an idea - not as a 'direct' experience of its own.
Do we in our daily life experience time as in "the past" or "the future"? Or do we simply experience "Now" and continue to experience NOW? Its only when we start to make mental images and "remember" what happened and contrast it to some future mental projection does time shows its face. That is start thinking.
Or when we observe our clocks.
If we are not thinking the very concept of time is none existent...it would not even be an issue - we would jus "be."
So I am suggesting, as far as I can perceive, time is strictly within the mechanics of thought.
Outside the mechanics of thought (or the brain) time does not seem to exist.
When thought is not, time is not. Things just "are.”
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
My whole life I've never let my life be ruled by this thing time. I'm aware of seasons and day and night but that's where it truly ends for me as far as I can tell. I would be hard pressed to tell you the date of nearly any Federal holiday.
I eat whenever I want, I wake up whenever I want. I've honestly never had much invested in the concept.
What I'm aware of is that the bars close sometime around 4 and I can get a good meal until around 2, the US market closes at 4pm and I shouldn't expect a same day wire after 3pm.
Don't let time rule you.
I eat whenever I want, I wake up whenever I want. I've honestly never had much invested in the concept.
What I'm aware of is that the bars close sometime around 4 and I can get a good meal until around 2, the US market closes at 4pm and I shouldn't expect a same day wire after 3pm.
Don't let time rule you.
HacksawJimThuggin
All Star
I've always looked at time as an infinite collection of "now", as in present moments. Basically every moment in your life is happening "now", and how you perceive that event is relative to where you are on the linear course of "now".
That probably doesn't make any sense, so I'm going to sleep now.
That probably doesn't make any sense, so I'm going to sleep now.
telomeresI'm convinced it could work
entropyI'm afraid time doesnt exist as such in the natural world of phenomenon.
Lets not confuse rythm for "time." There is such a thing as rythm: Rythm of the tides, stars, moon, various biological processes . What we call time is a social convention on measuring those rythms and motions - In the same way inches is used for length, money is used for "wealth", thoughts and concepts are used for what is interpreted as "reality."
Or to put it anoter way, Time is nothing less than the product of thought; with thought being the product of working-memory.
So time = the process of an abstracted image or memory of a an event (rythm, motion etc.), contrasting itself to what it perceives as happening "now," and then contrasting that to the projection it "hopes" or anticipates in the "future.” From all that the idea of time is born...only as an idea - not as a 'direct' experience of its own.
Do we in our daily life experience time as in "the past" or "the future"? Or do we simply experience "Now" and continue to experience NOW? Its only when we start to make mental images and "remember" what happened and contrast it to some future mental projection does time shows its face. That is start thinking.
Or when we observe our clocks.
If we are not thinking the very concept of time is none existent...it would not even be an issue - we would jus "be."
So I am suggesting, as far as I can perceive, time is strictly within the mechanics of thought.
Outside the mechanics of thought (or the brain) time does not seem to exist.
When thought is not, time is not. Things just "are.”
the growling in your stomach
you are not immune to entropy, just in a constant futile dash from it
@tmonster
what about the dying muons experiment?
and whats your stance on the rest-mass of light/ photons not experiencing time (in simplistic terms)?
if photons dont experience time yet are still determined to be the best means to carry quantum information..doesnt that have some sort of ramification on time? to me, it would indicate that information exists simultaneously in multiple frames in a relatively time-less state...and if it is assumed that the universe/matter can be reduced to information...?
forgive my ignorance..legitimately asking your opinion on this and not just trying to argue really. ive been trying to piece some of these things together since i made this thread in 2012 lol. i dont have the background in science that you do.
what about the dying muons experiment?
and whats your stance on the rest-mass of light/ photons not experiencing time (in simplistic terms)?
if photons dont experience time yet are still determined to be the best means to carry quantum information..doesnt that have some sort of ramification on time? to me, it would indicate that information exists simultaneously in multiple frames in a relatively time-less state...and if it is assumed that the universe/matter can be reduced to information...?
forgive my ignorance..legitimately asking your opinion on this and not just trying to argue really. ive been trying to piece some of these things together since i made this thread in 2012 lol. i dont have the background in science that you do.
I have more questions
beautiful experiment that supports time dilatation and space contraction as core theoretical precepts of relativity, but how does that translate to such heavy objects as lifeforms? like how many g's can the human body tolerate and therefore how long would it take to decelerate our first FTL or LS spaceship? so we could land on an alien planet?
what does it mean that a photon (or not) "experiences" time? I know what it means that it experiences a surface or a black hole, but time?
how do you propose a single photon carry information? polarization state?
I have more questions
beautiful experiment that supports time dilatation and space contraction as core theoretical precepts of relativity, but how does that translate to such heavy objects as lifeforms? like how many g's can the human body tolerate and therefore how long would it take to decelerate our first FTL or LS spaceship? so we could land on an alien planet?
what does it mean that a photon (or not) "experiences" time? I know what it means that it experiences a surface or a black hole, but time?
how do you propose a single photon carry information? polarization state?
Yes. Superdense coding theorem and in qubits. Usually one qubit but theoretically could be more. Plus an experiment showed that photons could collide in extreme conditions to create molecules. Forget the name of it but it was a Harvard/MIT study.
Things slow as their travel reaches light speed.. and particles moving at light speed travel without the relative experience of time. So doesnt that mean photons travel without the experience of time? And..as such...they are still traveling particles that hold information..that is now theorized to being crucial for quantum computers etc.
So then, depending on the macro view of the universe...if the universe can be looked at in a simplistic sense of "being information"...then could it also be looked at as being relatively timeless? Sure, there is still time within a planet as a measure of decay and with the moon/sun and inertia/entropy and more..but we do not have a grasp of a big enough sample size within the universe to make our laws of science truly universal down to those small specifics. A lot of it is perspective..so for us there is obviously time. But if theres an alien out there just looking at earth from a distance..they generally just see the same ball of matter rotating for however many hundreds of years...and their sense of "time" will be far different due to their environmental conditions..specifically the amount of light/photons/information they can receive.
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Dope thread..the way i see it time doesnt seem to exist because without adding space it doesnt make sense.
Time without motion doesnt mean anything..think of it this way if you were on a planet that didnt rotate or revolve so there was no day and night the concept of time would be meaningless
but you would still age over time.