the cac mamba
Veteran
thats an excellent point, ive said it before
trump plus bernie plus the two establishment picks
although if no one gets 270, i think the house picks or something
Trump supporters, looking at the electoral map what path to victory do you see?
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trump plus bernie plus the two establishment picks
although if no one gets 270, i think the house picks or something
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Sanders Crushing Trump in Polls 53 Percent to 38 Percent, Seen as Strongest General Election Candidate
The Vermont Senator is poised to arrive at the Democratic convention as the stronger candidate to take on Trump.
Senator Bernie Sanders would defeat Donald Trump relatively easily in a general election, according to the latest polls. An average of the three most recent major polls predicts a victory of more than 14 points, which would be a landslide in modern presidential politics.
As the country adjusts to the notion that a xenophobic, racist billionaire will be the Republican candidate for the presidency in November, no doubt many hope the strongest candidate emerges from the Democratic Party to defeat him.
The polls are clear on who that candidate is.
And at this point, it isn’t just the polls. Political analysis of the two Democratic campaigns also indicates Bernie Sanders is the stronger candidate.
@ThreeLetterAgency Just stop posting here, nikka, you are wrong in literally everything you said. You were adamant for pages that Trump would wash Bern, and now evidence shows you don't know your egghead from your ass. Hold yet another L, your 10000th in your coli career.
Sanders Crushing Trump in Polls 53 Percent to 38 Percent, Seen as Strongest General Election Candidate
The Vermont Senator is poised to arrive at the Democratic convention as the stronger candidate to take on Trump.
Senator Bernie Sanders would defeat Donald Trump relatively easily in a general election, according to the latest polls. An average of the three most recent major polls predicts a victory of more than 14 points, which would be a landslide in modern presidential politics.
- CNN/ORC, May 1: Sanders obliterates Trump by 16 points
- IBD/TIPP, April 28: Sanders defeats Trump by 12 points
- USA Today/Suffolk, April 24: Sanders defeats Trump by 15 points
As the country adjusts to the notion that a xenophobic, racist billionaire will be the Republican candidate for the presidency in November, no doubt many hope the strongest candidate emerges from the Democratic Party to defeat him.
The polls are clear on who that candidate is.
And at this point, it isn’t just the polls. Political analysis of the two Democratic campaigns also indicates Bernie Sanders is the stronger candidate.
@ThreeLetterAgency Just stop posting here, nikka, you are wrong in literally everything you said. You were adamant for pages that Trump would wash Bern, and now evidence shows you don't know your egghead from your ass. Hold yet another L, your 10000th in your coli career.
ezrathegreat
Veteran
this is where im at with itnone of us fukkin know
im pretty sure theres not gonna be a third party movement. which is actually a goddamn shame, since both candidates are so awful
The best thing for the country would be for the a second republican ticket and Bernie to run independent. That way every group in the electorate would be represented and all the complaining about Hilary and Trump would cease. The winner would be the true embodiment of the will of American people. And all of this lesser of two evils bullshyt would be over.
the cac mamba
Veteran
word. dudes constantly making these smug assertions based on what his idea of an electable candidate is, with that candidate being hillary clinton
bernie would probably beat trump, and it WOULD at least be neck and neck
bernie appeals to the average voter MUCH more than donald trump
Poll: Clinton, Trump 'dead even' in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania
- FLORIDA: Clinton 43 - Trump 42; Sanders 44 - Trump 42
- OHIO: Clinton 39 - Trump 43; Sanders 43 - Trump 41
- PENNSYLVANIA: Clinton 43 - Trump 42; Sanders 47 - Trump 41
Clinton and Trump both have negative favorability ratings among voters in each state, compared to Sanders' split score, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll finds. The Swing State Poll focuses on Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania because since 1960 no candidate has won the presidential race without taking at least two of these three states.
The presidential matchups show:
- Florida - Clinton at 43 percent, with 42 percent for Trump and Sanders at 44 percent to Trump's 42 percent;
- Ohio - Trump edges Clinton 43 - 39 percent, while Sanders gets 43 percent to Trump's 41 percent;
- Pennsylvania - Clinton at 43 percent to Trump's 42 percent, while Sanders leads Trump 47 - 41 percent.
"At this juncture, Trump is doing better in Pennsylvania than the GOP nominees in 2008 and 2012. And the two candidates are about where their party predecessors were at this point in Ohio and Florida."
"This election may be good for divorce lawyers. The gender gap is massive and currently benefits Trump," Brown added. "In Pennsylvania, Clinton's 19-point lead among women matches Trump's 21-point margin among men. In Ohio, she is up 7 points among women but down 15 points with men. In Florida she is up 13 points among women but down 13 points among men."
"Trump would do a better job handling the economy, voters say. He also would do a better job handling terrorism, voters in Florida and Ohio say. Pennsylvania voters are divided.
"By wide margins, voters in all three states say Clinton is more intelligent than Trump and by smaller margins, voters in all three states say she has higher moral standards."
Florida
A 48 - 35 percent lead among women gives Clinton an overall score of 43 percent. Trump's 49 - 36 percent lead among men gives him 42 percent of all voters.
Independent voters are divided 39 - 39 percent. White voters go Republican 52 - 33 percent, while non-white voters go Democratic 63 - 20 percent. Voters 18 to 34 years old back Clinton 49 - 27 percent, while voters over 65 years old back Trump 50 - 37 percent.
Clinton and Trump each get a negative 37 - 57 percent favorability rating.
Florida voters say 54 - 40 percent that Trump would do a better job than Clinton handling the economy, and say 49 - 43 percent that he would be better on terrorism.
Voters say 52 - 38 percent that Clinton is more intelligent than Trump and 46 - 41 percent that she has higher moral standards. Clinton has the temperament to handle an international crisis, Florida voters say 54 - 44 percent. Trump does not, voters say 62 - 34 percent.
Florida voters support 77 - 20 percent, including 60 - 36 percent among Democrats, requiring voters to show photo ID.
Illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the U.S. and apply for citizenship, 57 percent of voters say, while 11 percent say they can stay but not apply for citizenship and 25 percent say they should be required to leave the U.S.
Florida voters split 48 - 48 percent on whether the U.S. should build a wall along the Mexican border. Men support the wall 54 - 44 percent, with women opposed 52 - 43 percent. White voters want a wall 55 - 41 percent, with non-white voters opposed 65 - 31 percent.
"Republicans' weakness among minority voters is well known. But the reason this race is so close overall is Clinton's historic weakness among white men. In Florida, she is getting just 25 percent from white men," Brown said.
Ohio
The gender and racial gaps are wide in Ohio, where Trump edges Clinton 43 - 39 percent. He leads 51 - 36 percent among men, while she takes women 43 - 36 percent. White voters go Republican 49 - 32 percent, as non-white voters vote Democratic 76 - 14 percent.
The age gap narrows as voters 18 to 34 years old go 43 percent for Clinton and 39 percent for Trump, while voters over 65 go 46 percent for Trump and 40 percent for Clinton.
Independent voters go 40 percent for Trump and 37 percent for Clinton.
Clinton gets a negative 34 - 62 percent favorability, compared to Trump's negative 36 - 57 percent.
Trump would do a better job than Clinton handling the economy, Ohio voters say 52 - 40 percent. He also would be better on terrorism, voters say 48 - 43 percent.
Ohio voters say 47 - 39 percent Clinton is more intelligent than Trump and by a narrow 43 - 39 percent that she has higher moral standards.
Clinton has the temperament to handle an international crisis, Ohio voters say 51 - 46 percent, while Trump does not, voters say 63 - 29 percent.
Voters support 75 - 22 percent requiring voters to show photo ID. Democrats are divided with 50 percent in favor of photo ID and 48 percent opposed.
Illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the U.S. and apply for citizenship, 54 percent of voters say, while 9 percent say they can stay but not apply for citizenship and 31 percent say they should be required to leave the U.S.
Ohio voters oppose 52 - 45 percent building a wall along the border with Mexico. White voters are divided as 50 percent want a wall, with 46 percent opposed. Non-white voters are opposed 79 - 19 percent.
"Ohioans oppose 'The Wall' 52 - 45 percent, while they are overwhelmingly in favor of requiring a photo ID for anyone wanting to vote," Brown said. "They are happy with the economy and satisfied with the way things are going in the state - all of which is a nice testament to Gov. John Kasich, who dropped out of the White House race last week, but might be back as Trump's running mate."
Pennsylvania
It's the same story of gender and racial gaps in Pennsylvania, where Clinton gets 43 percent to Trump's 42 percent. Women back Clinton 51 - 32 percent, while men go to Trump 54 - 33 percent. White voters go Republican 48 - 37 percent, while non-white voters go Democratic 74 - 14 percent.
Clinton edges Trump 43 - 36 percent among voters 18 to 34 years old, while Trump has a slim 49 - 42 percent lead among voters over 65 years old.
Clinton and Trump both have negative favorability ratings, 37 - 58 percent for her and 39 - 55 percent for him.
Pennsylvania voters say 51 - 42 percent that Trump would do a better job than Clinton handling the economy. They are divided on who best would handle terrorism, as 47 percent say Trump and 46 percent say Clinton.
Clinton is more intelligent than Trump, Pennsylvania voters say 52 - 35 percent and she has higher moral standards, voters say 48 - 39 percent.
Clinton has the temperament to handle an international crisis, Pennsylvania voters say 55 - 42 percent, while Trump does not, voters say 62 - 33 percent.
Voters support 64 - 34 percent requiring voters to show photo ID. Support is 94 - 6 percent among Republicans and 63 - 35 percent among independent voters. Democrats are opposed 56 - 40 percent.
Illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the U.S. and apply for citizenship, 58 percent of voters say, while 10 percent say they can stay but not apply for citizenship and 27 percent say they should be required to leave the U.S.
Pennsylvania voters oppose 51 - 45 percent building a wall along the border with Mexico. White voters are divided as 49 percent want a wall with 47 percent opposed. Non-white voters are opposed 71 - 26 percent.
"Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are locked in Pennsylvania and they have similar, awful numbers on honesty and favorability," said Tim Malloy, assistant Director of the Quinnipiac University Poll. "The one glaring difference: Trump is crushed on the question of which candidate has the temperament and personality to handle an international crisis. It's a vote of confidence the Clinton camp can dine out on and Trump supporters have to see as a red flag."
From April 27 - May 8 Quinnipiac University surveyed:
- 1,051 Florida voters with a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points;
- 1,042 Ohio voters with a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points;
- 1,077 Pennsylvania voters with a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points.
The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, Colorado and the nation as a public service and for research.
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the cac mamba
Veteran
hillary is an awful candidate that people dont want to vote for
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Poll: Clinton, Trump 'dead even' in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania
In a race marked by wide gender, age and racial gaps, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are running neck and neck in the key presidential Swing States of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, but Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont runs stronger against the likely Republican nominee, according to a Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll released today.
- FLORIDA: Clinton 43 - Trump 42; Sanders 44 - Trump 42
- OHIO: Clinton 39 - Trump 43; Sanders 43 - Trump 41
- PENNSYLVANIA: Clinton 43 - Trump 42; Sanders 47 - Trump 41
Clinton and Trump both have negative favorability ratings among voters in each state, compared to Sanders' split score, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll finds. The Swing State Poll focuses on Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania because since 1960 no candidate has won the presidential race without taking at least two of these three states.
The presidential matchups show:
"Six months from Election Day, the presidential races between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the three most crucial states, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, are too close to call," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac Poll.
- Florida - Clinton at 43 percent, with 42 percent for Trump and Sanders at 44 percent to Trump's 42 percent;
- Ohio - Trump edges Clinton 43 - 39 percent, while Sanders gets 43 percent to Trump's 41 percent;
- Pennsylvania - Clinton at 43 percent to Trump's 42 percent, while Sanders leads Trump 47 - 41 percent.
"At this juncture, Trump is doing better in Pennsylvania than the GOP nominees in 2008 and 2012. And the two candidates are about where their party predecessors were at this point in Ohio and Florida."
"This election may be good for divorce lawyers. The gender gap is massive and currently benefits Trump," Brown added. "In Pennsylvania, Clinton's 19-point lead among women matches Trump's 21-point margin among men. In Ohio, she is up 7 points among women but down 15 points with men. In Florida she is up 13 points among women but down 13 points among men."
"Trump would do a better job handling the economy, voters say. He also would do a better job handling terrorism, voters in Florida and Ohio say. Pennsylvania voters are divided.
"By wide margins, voters in all three states say Clinton is more intelligent than Trump and by smaller margins, voters in all three states say she has higher moral standards."
Florida
A 48 - 35 percent lead among women gives Clinton an overall score of 43 percent. Trump's 49 - 36 percent lead among men gives him 42 percent of all voters.
Independent voters are divided 39 - 39 percent. White voters go Republican 52 - 33 percent, while non-white voters go Democratic 63 - 20 percent. Voters 18 to 34 years old back Clinton 49 - 27 percent, while voters over 65 years old back Trump 50 - 37 percent.
Clinton and Trump each get a negative 37 - 57 percent favorability rating.
Florida voters say 54 - 40 percent that Trump would do a better job than Clinton handling the economy, and say 49 - 43 percent that he would be better on terrorism.
Voters say 52 - 38 percent that Clinton is more intelligent than Trump and 46 - 41 percent that she has higher moral standards. Clinton has the temperament to handle an international crisis, Florida voters say 54 - 44 percent. Trump does not, voters say 62 - 34 percent.
Florida voters support 77 - 20 percent, including 60 - 36 percent among Democrats, requiring voters to show photo ID.
Illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the U.S. and apply for citizenship, 57 percent of voters say, while 11 percent say they can stay but not apply for citizenship and 25 percent say they should be required to leave the U.S.
Florida voters split 48 - 48 percent on whether the U.S. should build a wall along the Mexican border. Men support the wall 54 - 44 percent, with women opposed 52 - 43 percent. White voters want a wall 55 - 41 percent, with non-white voters opposed 65 - 31 percent.
"Republicans' weakness among minority voters is well known. But the reason this race is so close overall is Clinton's historic weakness among white men. In Florida, she is getting just 25 percent from white men," Brown said.
Ohio
The gender and racial gaps are wide in Ohio, where Trump edges Clinton 43 - 39 percent. He leads 51 - 36 percent among men, while she takes women 43 - 36 percent. White voters go Republican 49 - 32 percent, as non-white voters vote Democratic 76 - 14 percent.
The age gap narrows as voters 18 to 34 years old go 43 percent for Clinton and 39 percent for Trump, while voters over 65 go 46 percent for Trump and 40 percent for Clinton.
Independent voters go 40 percent for Trump and 37 percent for Clinton.
Clinton gets a negative 34 - 62 percent favorability, compared to Trump's negative 36 - 57 percent.
Trump would do a better job than Clinton handling the economy, Ohio voters say 52 - 40 percent. He also would be better on terrorism, voters say 48 - 43 percent.
Ohio voters say 47 - 39 percent Clinton is more intelligent than Trump and by a narrow 43 - 39 percent that she has higher moral standards.
Clinton has the temperament to handle an international crisis, Ohio voters say 51 - 46 percent, while Trump does not, voters say 63 - 29 percent.
Voters support 75 - 22 percent requiring voters to show photo ID. Democrats are divided with 50 percent in favor of photo ID and 48 percent opposed.
Illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the U.S. and apply for citizenship, 54 percent of voters say, while 9 percent say they can stay but not apply for citizenship and 31 percent say they should be required to leave the U.S.
Ohio voters oppose 52 - 45 percent building a wall along the border with Mexico. White voters are divided as 50 percent want a wall, with 46 percent opposed. Non-white voters are opposed 79 - 19 percent.
"Ohioans oppose 'The Wall' 52 - 45 percent, while they are overwhelmingly in favor of requiring a photo ID for anyone wanting to vote," Brown said. "They are happy with the economy and satisfied with the way things are going in the state - all of which is a nice testament to Gov. John Kasich, who dropped out of the White House race last week, but might be back as Trump's running mate."
Pennsylvania
It's the same story of gender and racial gaps in Pennsylvania, where Clinton gets 43 percent to Trump's 42 percent. Women back Clinton 51 - 32 percent, while men go to Trump 54 - 33 percent. White voters go Republican 48 - 37 percent, while non-white voters go Democratic 74 - 14 percent.
Clinton edges Trump 43 - 36 percent among voters 18 to 34 years old, while Trump has a slim 49 - 42 percent lead among voters over 65 years old.
Clinton and Trump both have negative favorability ratings, 37 - 58 percent for her and 39 - 55 percent for him.
Pennsylvania voters say 51 - 42 percent that Trump would do a better job than Clinton handling the economy. They are divided on who best would handle terrorism, as 47 percent say Trump and 46 percent say Clinton.
Clinton is more intelligent than Trump, Pennsylvania voters say 52 - 35 percent and she has higher moral standards, voters say 48 - 39 percent.
Clinton has the temperament to handle an international crisis, Pennsylvania voters say 55 - 42 percent, while Trump does not, voters say 62 - 33 percent.
Voters support 64 - 34 percent requiring voters to show photo ID. Support is 94 - 6 percent among Republicans and 63 - 35 percent among independent voters. Democrats are opposed 56 - 40 percent.
Illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the U.S. and apply for citizenship, 58 percent of voters say, while 10 percent say they can stay but not apply for citizenship and 27 percent say they should be required to leave the U.S.
Pennsylvania voters oppose 51 - 45 percent building a wall along the border with Mexico. White voters are divided as 49 percent want a wall with 47 percent opposed. Non-white voters are opposed 71 - 26 percent.
"Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are locked in Pennsylvania and they have similar, awful numbers on honesty and favorability," said Tim Malloy, assistant Director of the Quinnipiac University Poll. "The one glaring difference: Trump is crushed on the question of which candidate has the temperament and personality to handle an international crisis. It's a vote of confidence the Clinton camp can dine out on and Trump supporters have to see as a red flag."
From April 27 - May 8 Quinnipiac University surveyed:
Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones.
- 1,051 Florida voters with a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points;
- 1,042 Ohio voters with a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points;
- 1,077 Pennsylvania voters with a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points.
The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, Colorado and the nation as a public service and for research.
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That's one Quinnipiac poll, Cac. Talk to me when the aggregates of each state show a tie or Trump lead. In the meantime let these burn.RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Florida: Trump vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton
I did not see that type of gap coming.
This has to be an outlier poll.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Florida: Trump vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton
Hey Curry, Quinnipiac is the only poll taken after #TrumpSet got the nomination last week and he is ahead in all of the swing states polled. By the time the other polls catch up #TrumpSet will be tied or ahead in those other polls as well so keep reaching bytch :trumpmad:
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
So like I said, talk to me when the poll aggregates show a Trump lead or tie. Until then, stop nutting your plantation robes because 1 poll show a statistical tie. It's wise to look at rolling averages of polls because it makes up for potential outliers.