Tupac Vibe Magazine April 1995 Ready To Live Interview Un-Edited

[DarkmanX]

At that time, Jack probably had more clout in NY than Pac.They say he was a major cocaine dealer.Star based clientele.

Also how Pac hooked up with Madonna because Jack was her coke dealer.

LMAO of course he did. 2pac is and was a RAPPER, not a political prisoner, not a thug or none of that as hes painted today. His FAMILY was political prisoners & all & 2pac grew up around it, but thats it. Jack had way more clout than 2pac ever had. Plus Jack ran with Henchman & them too. We talking street cats vs rapper here.

2nd quote: Been tryna tell dudes that for years. Wasnt Club Nellz ran by Jack or he had some "clout" in there? Thats where Madonna used to be at the time. She did not only meet 2pac tho. She had met many others rappers & such too, before & after.

But again a re-visited story where people believe that 2pac was so ENORMOUSLY POPULAR & a "ROCKSTAR" in 1994 & thats why Madonna hung with him . He was popular no doubt, but so where many others. In 1993-1995 he was mostly popular due to his controversy (which helped Me Against The World actually).

 

[kingofnyc]

You a delusional ass nikka for real...Im take your word over the dude that was directly involved in the robbery...a video could come out tomorrow with these nikkas plotting it with a close up of puffy snaggle tooth ass dancing in the foreground and you would dismiss it as Cgi or some shyt..l gave you a list of ppl who implicate him..you want direct qoutes too? Let me ask you this..what do YOU think happened? Who was involved?

for the millionth time - that dude who was directly invovled your referring too is (dexter issac) who basically..... said jimmy & him was in the room disgusting the set up thereafter existing from the room/office, puff was the 1st person he saw then stated 'puff had to know what was gonna go down' simply off the facial expression puff had on at the time
if your rolling with that - as guilt for puff - then i dont know what to tell u
but im pretty much sure your smart enough to know that sketchy story wouldnt hold a drip of water in any court/police/legal org

what list of people you posted ?
kirk burrows the disgruntle former employee who sued puff for $25 million - actually i dont even believe he commented on quad shooting he's the nikka who been heavy on the vegas shooting

what do i think happen
simple - pac got set up cause he was in the process of distancing himself from jack & them (he problay wish he listened to biggie & mike tyson when they told him dont fukkz with dem grimey BK nikkaz)


breh - u like da only nikka thats on this shyt
i mean... i disagree with these 2 heavily
-yet- they both on record saying biggie & puff had nothing to do with it
see chuck phillips & detective greg kading

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

LMAO of course he did. 2pac is and was a RAPPER, not a political prisoner, not a thug or none of that as hes painted today. His FAMILY was political prisoners & all & 2pac grew up around it, but thats it. Jack had way more clout than 2pac ever had. Plus Jack ran with Henchman & them too. We talking street cats vs rapper here.

2nd quote: Been tryna tell dudes that for years. Wasnt Club Nellz ran by Jack or he had some "clout" in there? Thats where Madonna used to be at the time. She did not only meet 2pac tho. She had met many others rappers & such too, before & after.

But again a re-visited story where people believe that 2pac was so ENORMOUSLY POPULAR & a "ROCKSTAR" in 1994 & thats why Madonna hung with him . He was popular no doubt, but so where many others. In 1993-1995 he was mostly popular due to his controversy (which helped Me Against The World actually).

Pac was a threat because he had the pedigree of a revolutionary.He was still an extension of the Black Liberation Movement/Shakur family legacy through the vehicle of rap.

I wouldn't refer to him as just a typical rapper.He was young, got sidetracked, and the light bulb never fully switched on.


But I think Afeni instilled the "spirit of the movement" in Pac.People forget that he was the president/chairman of The New Afrikan Black Panthers before he joined DU as a roadie.

It wasn't something he picked up along the way like Ice Cube....That shyt was bone marrow deep with Pac.In his blood.

 

[DarkmanX]

Pac was a threat because he had the pedigree of a revolutionary.He was still an extension of the Black Liberation Movement/Shakur family legacy through the vehicle of rap.

I wouldn't refer to him as just a typical rapper.He was young, got sidetracked, and the light bulb never fully switched on.


But I think Afeni instilled the "spirit of the movement" in Pac.People forget that he was the president/chairman of The New Afrikan Black Panthers before he joined DU as a roadie.

It wasn't something he picked up along the way like Ice Cube....That shyt was bone marrow deep with Pac.In his blood.

Again, i said it ran through his fam. Doesnt make HIM that tho. He was mostly a face for it being that he had a platform. No different than Public Enemy & many others, only difference is that he had it running through his fam & wasnt connected with the NOI/FOI or 5% in some way (that i know of).

My point is, 2pac was still an ARTIST. He could be the face of all those movements but we talking about serious street dudes here. Plus, no disrespect to his fam, but those movements were mostly lead in the 60's-70's. 20-30 years later (at the time) it didnt hold as much weight (unfortunately). Most weight-holders from the Panthers were obviously locked up, dead or older.

Btw i love Cube but i think you're right about that.

 

[spliz]

Again, i said it ran through his fam. Doesnt make HIM that tho. He was mostly a face for it being that he had a platform. No different than Public Enemy & many others, only difference is that he had it running through his fam & wasnt connected with the NOI/FOI or 5% in some way (that i know of).

My point is, 2pac was still an ARTIST. He could be the face of all those movements but we talking about serious street dudes here. Plus, no disrespect to his fam, but those movements were mostly lead in the 60's-70's. 20-30 years later (at the time) it didnt hold as much weight (unfortunately). Most weight-holders from the Panthers were obviously locked up, dead or older.

Btw i love Cube but i think you're right about that.

When Pac was gonna do the Panther thing he wasn't even a celebrity. Him ending up being DU's roadie is what stopped him from goin full fledged wit the shyt. He wasn't just the face of anything cause he was a nobody at the time.

 

[Renzo]

for the millionth time - that dude who was directly invovled your referring too is (dexter issac) who basically..... said jimmy & him was in the room disgusting the set up thereafter existing from the room/office, puff was the 1st person he saw then stated 'puff had to know what was gonna go down' simply off the facial expression puff had on at the time
if your rolling with that - as guilt for puff - then i dont know what to tell u
but im pretty much sure your smart enough to know that sketchy story wouldnt hold a drip of water in any court/police/legal org

what list of people you posted ?
kirk burrows the disgruntle former employee who sued puff for $25 million - actually i dont even believe he commented on quad shooting he's the nikka who been heavy on the vegas shooting

what do i think happen
simple - pac got set up cause he was in the process of distancing himself from jack & them (he problay wish he listened to biggie & mike tyson when they told him dont fukkz with dem grimey BK nikkaz)


breh - u like da only nikka thats on this shyt
i mean... i disagree with these 2 heavily
-yet- they both on record saying biggie & puff had nothing to do with it
see chuck phillips & detective greg kading

ill clarify my position. ..do i think puffy set him up or was the mastermind behind? Nope.. do I think he knew in advance what was going down?...Yep...ask yourself why Puffy would even be in the vicinity of some shyt like that being plotted? You think Puffy just happened to be there chillin? Lol yea ok...innocent dudes that dont want no problems dont put 5000 bounties out on rival company's chains..or dap up the guys who are suspects in your rivals death 6 months prior..come on my nikka..and all this shyt bout Pac being a fake tough guy or not street smart dont mean shyt..tough nikkas get set up and shot up every day...having street smarts or bein a official cat don't make you immune to fukkery if nikkas want to get at you..

 

[DarkmanX]

When Pac was gonna do the Panther thing he wasn't even a celebrity. Him ending up being DU's roadie is what stopped him from goin full fledged wit the shyt. He wasn't just the face of anything cause he was a nobody at the time.

He was rapping since the 80s & he always acted & wanted to become an actor. So even tho he was "nobody" then he was definitely on his way. But i was talking about at the time he did become a rapper. Regardless theres no way he would have any more clout than a Henchman, Jack, Tut & others in NY. He didnt really have any more or less clout than any other rapper. shyt was just based on who he affiliated himself with, who did security for him, who held him down etc etc..same as every rapper. Yeah he had fam in places like Queens etc but why would that matter? He was an artist.

 

[spliz]

He was rapping since the 80s & he always acted & wanted to become an actor. So even tho he was "nobody" then he was definitely on his way. But i was talking about at the time he did become a rapper. Regardless theres no way he would have any more clout than a Henchman, Jack, Tut & others in NY. He didnt really have any more or less clout than any other rapper. shyt was just based on who he affiliated himself with, who did security for him, who held him down etc etc..same as every rapper. Yeah he had fam in places like Queens etc but why would that matter? He was an artist.

nikka what u talkin bout? Pac wasnt on his way to shyt in the 80s. He was just a local kid rapping then. There wasnt anything remotely implying he was gonna blow up then. His name ain't mean shyt to nobody. And he wasn't acting in anything at the time. nikka went to school of the arts in B More but that shyt was in the hood nikka. Noone would've predicted Pac was gonna be shyt in the 80s. Not even Pac. nikka was fukkin homeless at one point bruh. U trippin. All the other shyt u sayin about clout has nothing to do with me so I don't even know why u talkin to me bout that. That's a conversation I'm not even having with u bring that my post has nothing to do with that whatsoever.

 

[DarkmanX]

nikka what u talkin bout? Pac wasnt on his way to shyt in the 80s. He was just a local kid rapping then. There wasnt anything remotely implying he was gonna blow up then. His name ain't mean shyt to nobody. And he wasn't acting in anything at the time. nikka went to school of the arts in B More but that shyt was in the hood nikka. Noone would've predicted Pac was gonna be shyt in the 80s. Not even Pac. nikka was fukkin homeless at one point bruh. U trippin. All the other shyt u sayin about clout has nothing to do with me so I don't even know why u talkin to me bout that. That's a conversation I'm not even having with u bring that my post has nothing to do with that whatsoever.

First off calm down. Where did i say he was famous or hot? That wasnt what i was saying. I said he was on his way to become what he eventually did. So he did plays, rapped locally & all that as any rapper/actor do. And he would rap & etc at a few places where they would have their political agendas (for lack of better word) for example when he lived in Marin City & they were tryna start that "New Panthers" or whatever it was called.

 

[spliz]

First off calm down. Where did i say he was famous or hot? That wasnt what i was saying. I said he was on his way to become what he eventually did. So he did plays, rapped locally & all that as any rapper/actor do. So what you saying is just as irrelevant to what i said too. Bringing up how he was homeless & all that & where he went to school with when u misunderstood what i was saying.

Calm your p*ssy down.

fukk outta here wit the disrespect. U said he was on his way. Basically saying he was the face of The Panthers cause of his name and who he was. When I'm tryna tell u his name ain't mean shyt when he was tryna start up the new Panthers. Actually if anything. It wasn't his name as a rapper. It was his cause of his family line that got him in wit it. But instead of pointing out obvious shyt like that u choose to focus on some irrelevant shyt like him being a struggling rapper from the hood. Like that really helped him into any organization. What I'm sayin is ur point makes no sense.

 

[DarkmanX]

fukk outta here wit the disrespect. U said he was on his way. Basically saying he was the face of The Panthers cause of his name and who he was. When I'm tryna tell u his name ain't mean shyt when he was tryna start up the new Panthers. Actually if anything. It wasn't his name as a rapper. It was his cause of his family line that got him in wit it. But instead of pointing out obvious shyt like that u choose to focus on some irrelevant shyt like him being a struggling rapper from the hood. Like that really helped him into any organization. What I'm sayin is ur point makes no sense.

I didnt say he was THE face in the 80s tho. I said he was on his way (to become what he eventually became, an actor/rapper) cuz he was already acting since he was a child, & then rapping (locally) since the 80s.

The children was definitely supposed to carry tradition. Afeni herself has stated that for years.

 

[kingofnyc]

ill clarify my position. ..do i think puffy set him up or was the mastermind behind? Nope.. do I think he knew in advance what was going down?...Yep...ask yourself why Puffy would even be in the vicinity of some shyt like that being plotted? You think Puffy just happened to be there chillin? Lol yea ok...innocent dudes that dont want no problems dont put 5000 bounties out on rival company's chains..or dap up the guys who are suspects in your rivals death 6 months prior..come on my nikka..and all this shyt bout Pac being a fake tough guy or not street smart dont mean shyt..tough nikkas get set up and shot up every day...having street smarts or bein a official cat don't make you immune to fukkery if nikkas want to get at you..

i'm glad you clarified your position with that said I take it back to one of my previous post where I stated why in the world with puff be in the same building and have his biggest / most valuable artist in the same building as well if he knew pac was about to get got just doesn't make any damn sense because who knows the type of fukkery could happen in that situation and I'm not even talking about the jimmy's goons or pac's entourage I'm talking about the NYPD with all them drugs and illegal guns up there is no telling what would happen so I don't understand how you or anybody else would believe this

and the other point is how did puff know and who told him ? Jimmy ?


again at the end of the day overwhelming amount of people have stated biggie and puff had nothing to do with it , see below

mark 12:50 - 15:45

 

[Renzo]

i'm glad you clarified your position with that said I take it back to one of my previous post where I stated why in the world with puff be in the same building and have his biggest / most valuable artist in the same building as well if he knew pac was about to get got just doesn't make any damn sense because who knows the type of fukkery could happen in that situation and I'm not even talking about the jimmy's goons or pac's entourage I'm talking about the NYPD with all them drugs and illegal guns up there is no telling what would happen so I don't understand how you or anybody else would believe this

and the other point is how did puff know and who told him ? Jimmy ?


again at the end of the day overwhelming amount of people have stated biggie and puff had nothing to do with it , see below

mark 12:50 - 15:45

Im not taking Prodigy word on that situation lol Pac said he knew for a fact they knew...his word bout as good as theres since he was the victim in the situation and most everything he said has come to be true..ask yourself if they plotting a nikka to be robbed...they just goin let some random square like Puffy even be in the vicinity wandering around? You see it one way..i see it another..agree to disagree

 

[kingofnyc]

Im not taking Prodigy word on that situation lol Pac said he knew for a fact they knew...his word bout as good as theres since he was the victim in the situation and most everything he said has come to be true..ask yourself if they plotting a nikka to be robbed...they just goin let some random square like Puffy even be in the vicinity wandering around? You see it one way..i see it another..agree to disagree

the problem with you saying you going to take pac version or account of what happened because it happened to him rather than anybody else makes you lose credibility

why you ask... because pac lied about that night, he repeatedly stated he got shot five times when in reality he only shot himself
this is not my opinion this is strictly factual

so the only other question is if you if you know he lied about being shot multiple times what makes you think he's telling the truth about biggie and puff being part of the set up or knowing about it

 

[Renzo]

the problem with you saying you going to take pac version or account of what happened because it happened to him rather than anybody else makes you lose credibility

why you ask... because pac lied about that night, he repeatedly stated he got shot five times when in reality he only shot himself
this is not my opinion this is strictly factual

so the only other question is if you if you know he lied about being shot multiple times what makes you think he's telling the truth about biggie and puff being part of the set up or knowing about it

You should be the last talking about credibility as much caping you do...and them nikkas couldnt even keep they story straight wont nothing factual about they said.....Was he not shot at all? shot just once by his own gun? or was it when lil cease said he got shot 3 times? oh nah must be when biggie said ''I understand you get shot 5 times, ya head is spinning''.....The drs who treated him noted the bullet wounds or you think they lying too, why would they do that? or you saying he shot himself 5 times on some Issac Hayes Im going get you sucka type shyt....against all logic you really believe that?! lol come back to earth my nikka...if he said it repeatedly bout being shot 5 times..not 3 or 1, ever think he might be telling the truth?! wtf..lying ass nikkas..