PhonZhi
Veteran
"Pac aint even close to my top 30-40"
Tupac's Technical Skills As A Rapper
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He's spending too much time hating on Pac. So many essays
"MATW is alright but not on the level of commons 3 best albums. AEOM has to many wack songs and filler."
that nikka he quoting Michael Connor said changes was weak becasue it didn't have diverse schemes, and Pac used way as a end rhyme twice.Dude said Changes might be Pac's most technical songHe definitely haven't heard Pac's discography.
see this is why Pac detractors make their case weak against Pac these nikkas are really using a song that Pac obiviously is message driven more than lyrically driven. To say a song is weak becasue have of the lack of technical rhymes, metaphors, wordplay in it
if your gonna do that then atleast go and try to critique songs where he is trying to flex lyrically and has tons
street fame
troublesome 96
first to bomb
bomb first
All out
tha lunatic
got my mind made up
Hold ya head
As the world turns
nikkaz in the pen
etc
And yet your fav rapper Biggie said Pac can get busy with the lyrics.
And some of you Pac haters stay exaggerating acting like Pac was a bum technically. None of us is rewriting history just showing some of you dectractors Pac knew had to rhyme more words than just Henessey and enemy.
Most of yall dont listen to pacs catalog pass AEOM and MATW so most yall opinion can be taken as a grain of salt
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
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maybe if they tried to understaaaand me ....what should i do?/
i had to feed my fukkin faaaamily....what else could i do?/
But be a thug/
out slangin wit da homies/
fukk hangin wit them phonies/
in da clubs/
Got my mind on daaaanger/
neva been a straaaanger/
to homocide/
my cities' full of gang baaaangers/
and drive-bys
come on man u the fam but so many syllables in these lines rhymed.
Maybe if they tried to understand me; what should I do?
I had to feed my fukkin' family; what else could I do
But be a thug? Out slangin' with the homies
fukk hangin' with them phonies in the club!
Got my mind on danger; never been a stranger to homicide
My city's full of gang bangers and drive bys
that u missed.
Real shyt..these nikkas talkin dumb shyt..fukk all that..I'd put 96 pac up against all them nikkas with confidence...he was blacking out on everything he was touching..and by time he hit Deathrow, his flow was on some next level shyt, check cali love remix or the last verse on made nikkas..nikkas was spazzing..
PhonZhi
Veteran
Oh shyt!! I didn't even notice "slanging" and "hangin" rhymed too
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
Oh shyt!! I didn't even notice "slanging" and "hangin" rhymed too
homie what about the other vowel sounds he rhymed like these sounds.
short a sound (had) under(stand)(fam)ily
short u sound (fuk)kin (un)derstand (what)
Maybe if they tried to understand me; what should I do?
I had to feed my fukkin' family; what else could I do
Techniec
Drugs and Kalashnikovs
This the kind of shyt that allows white folks to come in and appropriate the culture.Bars, technicalities, graphs, and shyt.Much ado about nothing.
It's all about what moves your soul.
"The big 3" combined could never make a song more socially relevant/powerful as this one
A simple truth>>>>>Technical rhyme scheme jargon.
Next they'll be saying Tyrese is "technically" better than James Brown....his density is greater
Lol these clowns kill me
Pac was too big and too dope for that lyrical myrical shyt
Yall keep your canibus and papoose
Im good with Pacs poetrt
Techniec
Drugs and Kalashnikovs
Techniec
Drugs and Kalashnikovs
Im not even gonna entertain the technical lyrical argument cuz its nonsense but whats this talk of flow?
That first verse on ambitions?
The way he rode the beat on 2 of Amerikkkaz Most Wanted? All Eyez On Me? All About U? How Do U Want It?
His verse on check out time?
Holla at me?
Im just naming AEOM tracks here....Pac killed beats..these cats expecting Twista flows
Not to.mention Pac had the GOAT voice
That first verse on ambitions?
The way he rode the beat on 2 of Amerikkkaz Most Wanted? All Eyez On Me? All About U? How Do U Want It?
His verse on check out time?
Holla at me?
Im just naming AEOM tracks here....Pac killed beats..these cats expecting Twista flows
Not to.mention Pac had the GOAT voice
productofrakim
Rookie
DI got a shyt load of replies. I ahvent been on the in weeks and didnt expect like 3-4 pages worht of replies. I can understand alot of the reactions and wish I could reply to them all. I'mma just take an L for this thread lmao.
BTW I saw some repleis pointing out that I used similar/exact repleis on rap genius. I a on RG most of the time, and wish i could get on the coli more. Here are some examples of the type of threads that I have made on RG, that I can hopefully bring to the coli:
Kool G Rap Appreciation Thread (ULTIMATE OPINION PIECE) | Genius
Jay Z has THE GOAT legacy in all of hip hop | Genius
http://genius.com/discussions/225341-Dmx-appreciation-thread
BTW I saw some repleis pointing out that I used similar/exact repleis on rap genius. I a on RG most of the time, and wish i could get on the coli more. Here are some examples of the type of threads that I have made on RG, that I can hopefully bring to the coli:
Kool G Rap Appreciation Thread (ULTIMATE OPINION PIECE) | Genius
Jay Z has THE GOAT legacy in all of hip hop | Genius
http://genius.com/discussions/225341-Dmx-appreciation-thread
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
u a good poster keep making them
'Hold ya Head' is full of technical skill and gems.... That 2nd and especially 3rd verse though
Verse 1:
I wake up early in the mornin', mind state so military
Suckers fantasizin' pictures of a young brother buried
Was it me, the weed or this life I lead?
If daytime is for suckers then tonight we breathe
Out for all that, knowin' that this world bring drawbacks
Look how they shiver once I deliver these raw raps
Meet me at the cemetery, dressed in black
Tonight we honor the dead, those who won't be back
So if I die, do the same for me, shed no tears
An Outlaw, thug livin' in this game for years
Why worry? Hope to God, get me high when I'm buried
Knowin' deep inside only a few love me
Don't rush me to the gates of heaven
Let me picture for a while, how I lived for my days as a child
I wonder now, how do we outlast?
Always get cash, stay strong if we all mash; hold ya head!
Verse 2:
These felonies be like prophecies, beggin' me to stop,
cause these lawyers gettin money every time they knock us
Snatchin' pockets lyrically, suckers flea when they notice
Switched my name to Makaveli, half the rap game ghost
Exposed foes with my hocus-pocus flows, they froze
Now suckers idolize my chosen blows
And mo' money mean litigatin', mo' playa hatin'
Got a cell at the Pen' for me waitin'; is this my fate?
Miss me with that misdemeanor thinkin', me fall back?
Never that, too much tequila drinkin, we all that
Make them understand me? Hell nah, this ain't my posse
Everyone with me is family, ‘cause everybody's got me
Watch me paint a perfect vision, this life we livin'
Got us all meetin' up in prison
Last week I got a letter from my road dog, written in blood
Sayin', "Please show a playa love", hold ya head! (Hold it!)
Verse 3:
God bless the child that can hold his own
Indeed, enemies bleed when I hold my chrome
Let these words be the last to my unborn seeds
Hope to raise my young nation in this world of greed
Currency means nothin' if you still ain't free
Money breeds jealousy, take the game from me
I hope for better days, trouble comes naturally
Runnin' from authorities 'til they capture me
And my aim is to spread mo' smiles than tears
Utilize lessons learned from my childhood years
Maybe Mama had it all right, rest yo' head
Tradin' conversations all night, bless the dead
To the homies that I used to have that no longer roll
Catch a brother at the crossroads
Plus nobody knows my soul, watchin' time pass
Through the glass of my drop-top Rolls; hold ya head!
