Want to change your career, get into Quality Assurance....

[Apollo Creed]

the cert game aint what some make it out to be. you can't just get a cert and get a great paying job. in addition for jobs like the ones the OP is talking about. Analyst stuff. You need WORK experience. Especially BUsiness Analyst. you can learn all the programs you want. but you wont know how to apply that to real world stuff unless you're actually doing the job and someone makes constant requests for you to do analyst work.

But usually they are asking for 5 years exp, sometimes 3 for Bus Analyst. now granted a lot of times the actual job isnt even that difficult. and i tell people all the time. most of these office jobs aint that hard. its just a matter of you getting a shot at doing them to the point it becomes 2nd nature. once that happens is smooth sailing. very few office gigs are really difficult when we're talking about analyst work.

lol dudes need to realize certs dont mean s damn think in Software Dev, experience does. I`m a BA and once you get experience you will be straight the biggest thing is learning tools, the issue at hand is when you are in a company they may have their own way of doing things and when you are there too long you can miss out on the new Methodologies and tools out there.

For example nobody cares if you have Agile Certs but never applied these skills, the most Certs will do is get you past HR screeners. In Software Dev PMP can help though if you want to be a PM.

What city you in OP? I`m a BA now.

 

[PaperEnterprise]

the cert game aint what some make it out to be. you can't just get a cert and get a great paying job. in addition for jobs like the ones the OP is talking about. Analyst stuff. You need WORK experience. Especially BUsiness Analyst. you can learn all the programs you want. but you wont know how to apply that to real world stuff unless you're actually doing the job and someone makes constant requests for you to do analyst work.

But usually they are asking for 5 years exp, sometimes 3 for Bus Analyst. now granted a lot of times the actual job isnt even that difficult. and i tell people all the time. most of these office jobs aint that hard. its just a matter of you getting a shot at doing them to the point it becomes 2nd nature. once that happens is smooth sailing. very few office gigs are really difficult when we're talking about analyst work.

I agree with you. Quality Assurance is an easier career to get into. I have gotten offers from places that required 10 years of BA experience but I aced the interview...it all depends on who is interviewing you and if they see you fitting into the work environment.

Even brothers working dead end jobs can start entry level for QA. just have to learn the talk and network. it's all possible.

i know people from india who learned QA shyt from online and make 100k plus. them nikkas don't have degrees and years of experience but one thing i give them, they study technical shyt like their life depends on it. they don't care for no social gatherings, no gossip, no rap beefs or how many bytches one has fukked...they go for the money and come out on top.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

the cert game aint what some make it out to be. you can't just get a cert and get a great paying job. in addition for jobs like the ones the OP is talking about. Analyst stuff. You need WORK experience. Especially BUsiness Analyst. you can learn all the programs you want. but you wont know how to apply that to real world stuff unless you're actually doing the job and someone makes constant requests for you to do analyst work.

But usually they are asking for 5 years exp, sometimes 3 for Bus Analyst. now granted a lot of times the actual job isnt even that difficult. and i tell people all the time. most of these office jobs aint that hard. its just a matter of you getting a shot at doing them to the point it becomes 2nd nature. once that happens is smooth sailing. very few office gigs are really difficult when we're talking about analyst work.

How many years IT experience you got

 

[Apollo Creed]

I agree with you. Quality Assurance is an easier career to get into. I have gotten offers from places that required 10 years of BA experience but I aced the interview...it all depends on who is interviewing you and if they see you fitting into the work environment.

Even brothers working dead end jobs can start entry level for QA. just have to learn the talk and network. it's all possible.

i know people from india who learned QA shyt from online and make 100k plus. them nikkas don't have degrees and years of experience but one thing i give them, they study technical shyt like their life depends on it. they don't care for no social gatherings, no gossip, no rap beefs or how many bytches one has fukked...they go for the money and come out on top.

You gotta remember Indians look out for their people. Hell if the interviewer is indian you better believe you aint getting that job if one of their countrymen are interviewing also

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Ya'll act like this shyt is so damn easy

Be a coder breh...
Get your certs breh...

Everybody learns differently. Hell, you can learn a language like Farsi and be a translator. Or you can learn a language in your dream country of choice and live over their teaching English. At the end of the day there are hundreds of things you can learn but if it doesn't interest you and you don't love it, its not gonna work.

 

[PaperEnterprise]

You gotta remember Indians look out for their people. Hell if the interviewer is indian you better believe you aint getting that job if one of their countrymen are interviewing also

BRUHHHHHHH i've been a victim of this. I'm a fukking BA, i've had technical indian guys interview me and i'm like man what the fukk that got to do with me...one asked me what were my roles in the last phase of development...i told him what my experience was and he goes you have no domain knowledge...i was like man you accusing me of lying...shyt got tense lol...he backed off and never heard from him. he was just being a dikk, asking about skills a developer would possess. just because i worked in a work environment where Java is used doesn't mean I was coding HAHAHA...sometimes these interview guys are the most non professionals that will interview you.

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

I'm a ISO9001 certified auditor. I have literally never used those skills, but it's a great selling point. I just took a job for 115K and used that as a marketing tool since that particular company was looking for ISO certification.

 

[rapbeats]

I'm not a QA, i'm a Business Analyst...i have to do everything QA's do and my role...I am familiar with the tools and what QA's do, so I thought I'd share the info for anyone wanting to get a foot in the door and make a decent earning..

the IT world is filled with foreigners, especially Indians that master these tools on Youtube and Google and get paid 100k plus...they can barely speak english.

just sucks that many people think this shyt is too hard, it isn't, just requires focus and commitment.

the indians are not mastering it. They are ok at it. but because whites are more prone to hire foreigners for less vs hiring blacks that are americans that wont go for the bs pay. in addition, our government gives those indians special incentives to go to school and come here and get jobs/start businesses in those fields. for all i know these companies might be getting government kick backs for hiring these indians that are fresh from overseas. so the more indians get hired. the more they hire their own. They aint hiring you and i.

and if by luck we do get in. they are making darn sure we are not in the position to hire us.

 

[rapbeats]

BRUHHHHHHH i've been a victim of this. I'm a fukking BA, i've had technical indian guys interview me and i'm like man what the fukk that got to do with me...one asked me what were my roles in the last phase of development...i told him what my experience was and he goes you have no domain knowledge...i was like man you accusing me of lying...shyt got tense lol...he backed off and never heard from him. he was just being a dikk, asking about skills a developer would possess. just because i worked in a work environment where Java is used doesn't mean I was coding HAHAHA...sometimes these interview guys are the most non professionals that will interview you.

read my above post, thank you for confirming what i said. those indians are not trying to hire you. thats why they going at you like that.

 

[PaperEnterprise]

Ya'll act like this shyt is so damn easy :mpls:

Be a coder breh...
Get your certs breh...

Everybody learns differently. Hell, you can learn a language like Farsi and be a translator. Or you can learn a language in your dream country of choice and live over their teaching English. At the end of the day there are hundreds of things you can learn but if it doesn't interest you and you don't love it, its not gonna work.

Right that's why if it interests you, you will make the effort. I didn't say hey everyone "DO THIS", that is why I wrote "want to change your career" its optional...also nothing is easy...sometimes people aren't introduced to careers that can benefit them, i'm just introducing the information, rest is up to anyone who chooses to do something with it...

 

[beaniemac]

Sup Coli brother and sisters...

I see a lot of people on this site that work regular jobs and maybe struggling with bills and sick of living check to check...

Get into the Quality Assurance Engineer/Analyst, it pays well.

Quality Assurance Analyst Salary

To get started learn:
- Software Development Life Cycle (google this for now, I will update with notes)
SDLC: SOFTWARE DEV LIFE CYCLE: The process of formal, logical steps to develop quality software. 8 phases:

1 - PLANNING
- Conducted by project managers
- DEFINE THE SYS TO BE DEVELOPED
- SCOPE OF PROJECT
- PROJECT PLAN
- Who is involved
- what they are doing
- when they should be done

2- ANALYSIS: End users and IT specialists working to gather understand, and document biz req's. Once requirements defined, end-users sign off indicating approval.

3- DESIGN: build a technical blueprint of how the proposed system will work
- Technical architects perform most of this step
- Compile:
- Hardware
- software
- supporting systems

4 - DEVELOPMENT
- Take design docs from the design phase and transform them into an actual system
- create Dbases and write any necessary software programs.

5- TESTING:
- Verifies system works and meets biz req's as defined in analysis
- develop detailed test conditions (the detailed steps the sys must perform and expected results of each step)
- conduct the test.

6- DEPLOYMENT:
- distribute systm to knowledge workers (usu. end-users, proj. managers, etc) and begin using the sys to perform their jobs
- provide user documentation to KWs which explain how to use the system
- provide training
- Stress/Load testing

7- PRODUCTION:
- release date
- creation of systems to be released to end-user

8- MAINTENANCE:
- monitor and support system
- help desk is set up
- change sys as biz changes

Will Add more info periodically...
- Software Testing Life Cycle
- Learn different methodologies used to develop software (focus on waterfall and Agile Scrum)
- Learn What are requirements? both functional and non functional requirements?
- Learn how to create a test strategy, test plan and test cases/scenarios

Learn the following tools:

-HP ALM HP Quality Center Tutorials - Learn HP ALM/QC in 7 Days
-JAVA (Basic concepts) Java Tutorial
-http://qtpselenium.com/selenium-training/selenium-tutorial/selenium-training-java-part-1
- JIRA (what it's used for and how to use it in Agile Methodology)
-JAWS, WAVE and 508 Compliance

I suggest you study for 6 months (including interview questions they ask) and dig deep and get yourself a nice resume and start digging up jobs on Dice.com and Indeed.com

By no means am I saying this is easy but I will say this, I know people getting 70k jobs, 95 k jobs, 115 k jobs...from entry to senior level...beautiful thing about this, as much as you study, the more you can ask for in pay.

Also helps if you are willing to relocate.

Hope my coli fam appreciates this.

P.S. Reason I'm sharing this is because I am currently on the market for a business analyst job and mastering QA tools because i will get more money...industry is seeking Business System Analyst...the more I know the more I get paid. I hope to land a position within the next 3 to 6 months...

this sounds like project management to me.

all I know is the PM's at my job don't really have any experience with our products or our client's processes. they are simply there get everyone together and "drive" the meeting to it's end goal and make sure the client gets all their deliverables.

 

[PaperEnterprise]

read my above post, thank you for confirming what i said. those indians are not trying to hire you. thats why they going at you like that.

I'm Pakistani. I look like them. The reason they don't hire me is because of my MUSLIM name.

But I won't deviate from my original message. Nothing comes easy, you want it, have to not quit without trying.

 

[Apollo Creed]

BRUHHHHHHH i've been a victim of this. I'm a fukking BA, i've had technical indian guys interview me and i'm like man what the fukk that got to do with me...one asked me what were my roles in the last phase of development...i told him what my experience was and he goes you have no domain knowledge...i was like man you accusing me of lying...shyt got tense lol...he backed off and never heard from him. he was just being a dikk, asking about skills a developer would possess. just because i worked in a work environment where Java is used doesn't mean I was coding HAHAHA...sometimes these interview guys are the most non professionals that will interview you.

yup had an Interview not too long ago where mofos were playing Good Cop bad cop and I was super straight on the vibe after that interview, ended up turning down the position because it was far out and I didnt like the culture.

That said there was some super cool Indians, my last boss was an indian woman and was the best manager I ever had because she was smart as hell and didnt give a damn as long as work was done. I dont blame Indians for looking out for there people because you are suppose to do that, but sometimes it seems they'd rather just put their people on even if they are incompetent opposed to doing whats best for the company.

I`m in a position now where its gravy is hell but I already got the itch to do something better because I want to use some new tools and methodologies and this current role isn't challenging, but the pay is great and its so chill I can focus more on my school work (getting my masters) and self teaching myself some stuff. I need to get some Agile experience though because while I know it in theory and concept I haven't gone through any development cycles using it and right now Agile is the in thing and Waterfall is becoming a thing of the past for the most part.

 

[PaperEnterprise]

this sounds like project management to me.

all I know is the PM's at my job don't really have any experience with our products or our client's processes. they are simply there get everyone together and "drive" the meeting to it's end goal and make sure the client gets all their deliverables.

QA's are responsible for analyzing business requirements and writing test cases...understanding test plans and milestones. 5th phase

in order to do waht they are suppose to they have to know certain manual and automation tools...

 

[PaperEnterprise]

lol dudes need to realize certs dont mean s damn think in Software Dev, experience does. I`m a BA and once you get experience you will be straight the biggest thing is learning tools, the issue at hand is when you are in a company they may have their own way of doing things and when you are there too long you can miss out on the new Methodologies and tools out there.

For example nobody cares if you have Agile Certs but never applied these skills, the most Certs will do is get you past HR screeners. In Software Dev PMP can help though if you want to be a PM.

What city you in OP? I`m a BA now.

I'm in DE right now. Where do you work?