Why can't black female r&b/pop artists get on?

[dora_da_destroyer]

Spin off from that tinashe thread, while I don't think she's special, i do take exception to that fact that there hasn't been a successful black female r&b/pop star to debut this decade (2010+ for the dummies). When I say successful, I'm not talking beyonce or rihanna level success, altho there should be at least someone near that range - Alicia keys - I'm talking chris brown, weeknd (great example of becoming a breakout artist), trey songz levels. You'll have an artist drop and they may do ok on one album - keri hilson, k michelle - and/or may get a few singles popping, but they can't sustain it. Jhene Aiko is like the only one to halfway make it, we'll see if/when she puts out a second album. But there's a huge hole in the game as far as black female singers.

shyt is fukked up...releases from OG's like Jill Scott are being overlooked, chicks like jazmine Sullivan are putting out a fire albums and can't get any rotation on the radio, unique sounding chicks like Elle Varner can't get a release, and dope urban r&b from chicks like teyana taylor and tiara thomas gets no spins or coverage. at us being erased from the industry.

Beyonce and rihanna debuted 10-20 years ago and you're telling me we don't have at least one other star poised to break out?

 

[Blackout]

White people control the sound.

Word to J Cole

 

[KravenMorehead™]

you know how that shyt go

 

[Vonte3000]

The R&B game just ain't fair anymore, Elle Varner should be in Rihanna's spot right now, everything is pop now and K. Michelle

 

[Hood Critic]

People got to buy the records (physical, digital, etc)...the labels don't want to spend the money because the fans ain't spending the money on R&B.

 

[Mr.Logic]

Spin off from that tinashe thread, while I don't think she's special, i do take exception to that fact that there hasn't been a successful black female r&b/pop star to debut this decade (2010+ for the dummies). When I say successful, I'm not talking beyonce or rihanna level success, altho there should be at least someone near that range - Alicia keys - I'm talking chris brown, weeknd (great example of becoming a breakout artist), trey songz levels. You'll have an artist drop and they may do ok on one album - keri hilson, k michelle - and/or may get a few singles popping, but they can't sustain it. Jhene Aiko is like the only one to halfway make it, we'll see if/when she puts out a second album. But there's a huge hole in the game as far as black female singers.

shyt is fukked up...releases from OG's like Jill Scott are being overlooked, chicks like jazmine Sullivan are putting out a fire albums and can't get any rotation on the radio, unique sounding chicks like Elle Varner can't get a release, and dope urban r&b from chicks like teyana taylor and tiara thomas gets no spins or coverage. at us being erased from the industry.

Beyonce and rihanna debuted 10-20 years ago and you're telling me we don't have at least one other star poised to break out?

(1) Black people don't support it...
(2) The majority of the material is GARBAGE not worth supporting...The Nina Simones, Arethra Franklin, and such don't exist anymore...

Black culture has become one of prostitution, crime and drug abuse...Damn shame...

 

[K.Dot]

Because black's decided it was a good idea to allow your oppressors to control or at least have their hands involved in everything they do. This is the results. @ 3 white owned labels having a monopoly on the music industry when we are ones that create all the music.

 

[Cynic]

(1) Black people don't support it...
(2) The majority of the material is GARBAGE not worth supporting...The Nina Simones, Arethra Franklin, and such don't exist anymore...

Black culture has become one of prostitution, crime and drug abuse...Damn shame...

Why would you want a Nina Simone, Aretha for this era ? We have Beyonce and that British chick...

90s had Mariah.....

80s had Whitney and Janet...


Music evolves breh.....


Ledisi, Janelle Monae, India Arie, Jaguar Wright, Jill Scott are dropping music...

Records ain't selling...they are streaming

Where's Gaga and Miley Cyrus ?

 

[John Hull]

 

[Tetris v2.0]

If it ain't extra sexed up, the mainstream ain't trying to hear it sadly

 

[Street Knowledge]

There's no money in Rnb

 

[Wild self]

Cause they (white labels) are tired of black women screaming "I'm independent" and reduced them to twerk thots in videos.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Name a white one that has...

Arianna?
Selena Gomez?

The decline of popstars is a good thing.

You're conflating pop & r&b.

Old R&B is corny ain't no one tryna hear that shyt but black women, black women music ain't poppin like that.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I would consider K Michelle on. She has dropped 3 albums. While everyone else is still trying to get the label to give them a second one

But to keep in line with the premise of the thread it is rather weird. Look at what Beyoncé and Rihanna are doing... You would think labels would put more resources into Female R&B.

I do think the main reason that R&B lost its standing is Rap got so big and now people mostly want to hear rap

It's hard for a lot of these Female singles to make songs like Formation, Drunk in love, work, needed me that fit right in with a mostly rap playlist and not destroy that mood

 

[CrimsonTider]

Male R&B would be having the same problem ( Only Breezy and Trey making noise) if it wasn't for Drake( this is not a Stan post)

He popularize a production style and singing style that open the door for Torey Lanez, Weeknd, Tiller, etc to make R&B that can stand toe to toe with Rap