We can always use another assistant coach.....and his wife would fit nicely into the bay area landscape...
Y'all Niccas Truly Ain't Ready For This Dynasty Thing: Official 2017-18 Warriors Season Thread
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We can always use another assistant coach.....and his wife would fit nicely into the bay area landscape...
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Chef Curry X the 2x MVP, The Greastest Shooter In NBA History, 2x World Champ and Top 3 NBA Player will return for the 2nd Round of the Playoffs
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to Don Nelson for knowing wayyy back to draft night and after, that he was not down with trading Steph for shyt. mothafukka kneweverybody else was gona get bushed except steph
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everybody else was gona get bushed except steph
Donnie making up his past sins when He Traded Chris Webber
That Chris Webber, Chris Mullin, Laterell Sprewell, Tim Hardaway and Billy Owens team had Championship Potential
He didn’t trade Chris Webber. Cohan did. He even told Cohan to fire him instead and keep Webber, but cohan’s dumb ass did the opposite and then don Nelson quit a little after that.Donnie making up his past sins when He Traded Chris Webber
That Chris Webber, Chris Mullin, Laterell Sprewell, Tim Hardaway and Billy Owens team had Championship Potential
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Don Nelson was running the Warrior's, Don Nelson was calling the Shots in that Organization at that time, Don Nelson Clashed with Webber on 2 Fronts, He wanted to Webber to play The 5 when Webber is a 4, and Chris was playing a New Style at 4 so they was Clashing, Cultral Shift was happening
So Don Nelson leaked it to the Media his displeasure of Webber, and this New Generation and he was going to quit because the 2 couldn't co-exist.
Don Nelson was The Warrior's best Coach, before him there was a drought after Rick Barry Championship. Don have a proven Record and was Popular in the Bay, Don Nelson forced The Warrior hands and Warrior's went with Don Nelson
Don Nelson is one of the Games greatest Manipulator and Strategist, I seen first hand, Don Nelson had power he had the Media and fans in his back pockets and he used them well to his advantage against The Warrior's many of times
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Warriors general manager Bob Myers sat next to his star point guard for an update. Their conversation required a professional lip reader, but it did involve Stephen Curry doing a lot of gesturing with his hands around his left knee, which was covered in a black brace.
Everyone in the AT&T Center this Saturday afternoon is curious on the status of Curry's sprained left MCL, beyond the vague update the team issued Friday. For this left knee is likely the key to the championship.
They both leaned into the folded chairs and laughed at whatever jokes they were sharing. It can't be certain that Curry's exaggerated hand movements around his knee weren't just to mess with onlookers, making everyone think something serious was happening. Chelsea Lane, the Warriors' guru overseeing Curry's rehab, ducked in and said something that had them all laughing.
Myers never looked so relaxed. An über competitor, he has been known for grinding through games. The worst-case scenario is usually on his mind enough to prevent him from getting carried away when things are going well. His star point guard is on the mend, his team's next opponent is looking pretty formidable and he's got some offseason moves that are still waiting to produce fruit.
But in this moment, Myers doesn't look like he is worrying much. Seemed like the perfect time for an interview.
Marcus Thompson II: How are you holding up?
Bob Myers: In what capacity? That’s a large question. (Laughs) My professional life? My personal life?
MT: There has been a lot of talk about complacency and not valuing the regular season. What was it like for you?
Myers: I think what I enjoy about this, and sports, is it’s unpredictable. And the uncertainty of it, you have to kind of embrace that. You have to embrace the difficulty of it. But I always fall back on — what I like about this group, and our coaching staff and players — I do think that they embody a real high character. And I think that’s what I always fall back on. Whether we win or lose, or however things go, this group, and it’s a credit to them, have been able to maintain that. Amongst all of the things around them, all their success, failures, public acclaim, accolades, things that aren’t true or half true, they’ve been able to kind of stay connected. So I’m kind of proud to associate with people like that.
MT: So you didn’t get burnt out or tired of the season?
Myers: I’m not tired of the guys. I do get tired of, sometimes — I’m not sure what I get tired of. There’s a fatigue to it. It’s a long train ride and you don’t really get to get off and look. You don’t stop. It keeps moving. I guess you get tired of the constant pace of it. You know, we started in China. People forget. We started in China in September. That was a long time ago. It feels like a long time ago. I guess you get fatigued with the length of it.
MT: You guys won 58 games in what has been regarded as an underwhelming, disappointing season.
Myers: The times that I’ve been frustrated are the times that our players and coaches have been frustrated. Sometimes you dig into your own resolve and it's not there. You have to kind of remember. These are human beings. They are people. And I fault not having a meaningful game for I don’t know how many games.
When we became the (No.) 2 seed, I don’t know when that moment occurred, but we probably had two weeks of games left that probably didn’t affect where we were going to be seeded or however you want to call it. So living in that space and trying to find meaning was hard for our group. It’s not to demean an NBA game. They all matter and you want to get better and you want to be in the playoffs. But tell that to guys who have won a couple championships and have set this record for regular-season wins, tell them to find meaning.
And if it were you or I playing, who’s to say we wouldn’t be in the locker room saying, “I don’t know if I can get up for this one.” Give me the speech as to why. For my own pride? Which is there, but sometimes you need meaning beyond my own professionalism. Not to say that’s not important, but sometimes it has to be more.
MT: Evaluating your moves at this point, what’s your grade for the season?
Myers: Uhhhh, incomplete! (Laughs)
I don’t know. I’m always hesitant to grade things preseason because you don’t know. No GM knows, or coach. The things you did, the player you drafted, the trade you made, the player you signed — I don’t know if it’s going to work or not. You’d like to think it will. But then if you grade yourself in the middle of the season and it's like the year is not over. So to say, “Great signing. Great draft pick.” What was an A could become a D by the time the playoffs come around. What was a D could become an A.
Quinn’s been good. We’ve had some things we thought we did well, some things we didn’t do well. I think the key for myself and our front office and coaching staff is what can we learn from. What has the league shown us? Where is the league moving and how did we respond to that? Did we respond correctly? Some things you try to do in the offseason, via draft or trade, you look back and go, “Even though we didn’t accomplish that goal, we would’ve been wrong.” So you have to be honest about that. Or we were right, we went after this guy and didn’t get him and he’s good. But what you can’t ignore is the things you wanted to do and couldn’t. That’s part of what we have to do, too.
JaVale is starting in the playoffs, right? If you would’ve asked me three months ago if he was a huge part when he’s getting DNPs, I’d say, “Well maybe not.” Now? Absolutely. He’s playing great. If we’re able to advance and keep playing, the picture becomes clearer as to how to answer that question. In the Finals, you go we just missed out on that position or we never had it. And then injuries factor in.
MT: So what have you learned about how the league is adjusting to you?
Myers: Draymond used to be going against a 7-foot, less-mobile player. That’s not happening anymore. Everybody has found a small lineup. Whether that’s their best lineup or not is unclear. No team comes into a game with an inability to go small or play small. They even do that consistently or they can go to that lineup — whereas before you would be able to catch teams off guard.
And I’m not saying small is good. Small may even be the wrong word. Versatile may be the right word. A versatile lineup — meaning a player that can switch pick-and-rolls, a player that can defend multiple positions. You’ve got a player that can shoot the 3. Rarely do you see a lineup without at least three, if not four guys, that can shoot the three to space you out.
The league will always catch up, but I think it's moving more towards that being the predominant way of playing. And where you used to see, Memphis is an example, more teams playing a certain style, the pervasive style has become this spacing, stretching style. Has it won (a championship)? Is that who we are? Some would say that’s who we are. But I don’t think we’re wholly that. I don’t know that we’re entirely that. Cleveland, are they that? I don’t know. It’s hard to say. But it seems to be moving that way.
MT: When you made the choice to not pick up Looney’s option, how likely did you think it was that he would play the way he has been?
Myers: We didn’t know. We had to go on the information we had, which is not the information we have now. Maybe in that circumstance, the cap factored in as far as having to be very conscious of every dollar and saying “Can we replace this player? Can we afford to pay him at this number?” When we make any decision, we’re projecting. Sometimes we project correctly. Sometimes we project incorrectly.
MT: Were you stressing over the decision because you knew this was possible?
Myers: We thought about it. We thought about it. You always do that, right? That’s the discussion you have. It’s the debate you have. Some would say we needed to pick it up. Some would say not. You debate it, which I think everybody gets a say in that. Then we decided what we decided. It’s all imperfect.
That’s an example of what we talked about — what did you learn from? What did you get right? What did you get wrong? What should you have done differently? And being honest about that. And understanding that’s OK. A lot of people in our society aren’t admitting fault or mistakes. We’re happy to admit errors. I’m happy to say, “Yeah. You know what. Maybe that one goes differently.” Or even luck. “Yeah. We got kinda lucky on that one.” Did I think Quinn Cook would be giving us meaningful minutes? Nope. Sorry. I can lie and say, “Yeah, we had that all figured out.” No. Sorry. We didn’t.
MT: Will that impact the decision on Damian Jones?
Myers: You mean next year?
MT: Yes.
Myers: Now you’re asking me to guess six months in advance. Although, the way Damian plays fits the modern NBA — a mobile five that’s athletic. Damian just needs a chance to play in the NBA. And where we are at in our window, and where we are at in our position in the NBA, hasn’t allowed us a ton of time to develop young players. I mean, McCaw, you see some ups and downs. He hasn’t had the ability to constantly develop for us, which you’d like to see in young players.
MT: With all the rumors and talks about which star will stick around and which star will be traded, have you had to reassure your stars or manage those relationships?
Myers: For me, the way I do it, and clearly everybody’s got their own way, I try to talk to players all the time. Whether it’s about their family, about the NBA, about our team, about other teams. I hope that we’ve created an environment where if something’s on their mind, they’re free to ask.
The uncomfortable conversations are when you haven’t talked to a guy for two months and then he’s in your office. That’s never comfortable. But if you’re in a constant dialogue, I feel like you can discuss anything with your players. I think that’s the healthiest way to do it. Doesn’t mean you get everything perfect. But I think our team right now, our team has shown great focus in the midst of everything that’s being said.
Maybe you get accustomed to it because so much has been written about our team the last three or four years. Things might have resonated in the past but because there is so much information, you move through it in a quicker way. Things are written and said and then you’re onto the next story and the next story. It’s harder to find things that I think last in the mind of even your readers or fans. Because it’s just “What’s next? What’s next?” So I haven’t had the need to do that. But who knows? In 30 minutes, I might.
MT: Does this feel like déjà vu with Steph?
Myers: Yeah. It’s crazy. We were just talking about it. It kind of does. But that was with no Durant.
MT: So you’re much less stressed out this time?
Myers: Yes! Imagine that. Kevin Durant lessens the stress of general managers. For all the GMs reading this, he is a guy that makes you feel better about your chances. Right? Kevin obviously gives you that confidence.
MT: Are you going to be the one that says, “Have a seat, sir.”
Myers: We’ve had that conversation 15 times. Like I said, we talked about having conversations. We’ve done that this year already. With his ankle, we’ve had that dialogue. The good thing about him now is you don’t have to have it as much. He knows his body and the consequences of rushing back as much as anybody. You were here when he was a young guy coming back on that ankle and trying to get back. It’s an admirable trait to want to play, but at some point it's reckless. So I think he’s learned from everything he’s been through to try to trust the trainers, the doctors, whoever, to say, “You know what? There’s no point in coming back too soon.”
MT: Draymond has looked incredible. As the GM, are you watching this like, “This is the Draymond I knew was coming” or are you like “Dude …”
Myers: Where was this?! Can’t you say that about Andre?
MT: Yes. Andre, too.
Myers: They’re human beings. Someone would read this and say “I give 100 percent every day of my life.” I’m not sure that’s true.
MT: I know I don’t.
Myers: Well, we know you don’t. I’m not by any means suggesting you do. (Laughs)
But my point is, the challenge of all of that is how do you create habits. And I think those two guys, or any guy, would say, “I know what I need to do and why are you doubting my success and my career? Like, who are you?”
Now, they’re right. How they’re playing now would say, “Get off my back. I told you.” The people who questioned them should be saying, “I shouldn't have questioned them maybe.” So for me, all I asked them was, “Are you going to be ready to go?” And the answer emphatically was, “Yes. Yes.”
MT: How often did you ask them that?
Myers: All the time over the last month! (Laughs)
But again, it comes back to character. In a sense, you’re questioning someone’s character. And they’re like, “Don’t you know who I am?” That’s the pushback from a player. “Have you not been here?” Because they know you have, and they say, “You don’t know me?” And that’s kind of the thing. Then you go, “You’re right. Fair point.”
Everyone in the AT&T Center this Saturday afternoon is curious on the status of Curry's sprained left MCL, beyond the vague update the team issued Friday. For this left knee is likely the key to the championship.
They both leaned into the folded chairs and laughed at whatever jokes they were sharing. It can't be certain that Curry's exaggerated hand movements around his knee weren't just to mess with onlookers, making everyone think something serious was happening. Chelsea Lane, the Warriors' guru overseeing Curry's rehab, ducked in and said something that had them all laughing.
Myers never looked so relaxed. An über competitor, he has been known for grinding through games. The worst-case scenario is usually on his mind enough to prevent him from getting carried away when things are going well. His star point guard is on the mend, his team's next opponent is looking pretty formidable and he's got some offseason moves that are still waiting to produce fruit.
But in this moment, Myers doesn't look like he is worrying much. Seemed like the perfect time for an interview.
Marcus Thompson II: How are you holding up?
Bob Myers: In what capacity? That’s a large question. (Laughs) My professional life? My personal life?
MT: There has been a lot of talk about complacency and not valuing the regular season. What was it like for you?
Myers: I think what I enjoy about this, and sports, is it’s unpredictable. And the uncertainty of it, you have to kind of embrace that. You have to embrace the difficulty of it. But I always fall back on — what I like about this group, and our coaching staff and players — I do think that they embody a real high character. And I think that’s what I always fall back on. Whether we win or lose, or however things go, this group, and it’s a credit to them, have been able to maintain that. Amongst all of the things around them, all their success, failures, public acclaim, accolades, things that aren’t true or half true, they’ve been able to kind of stay connected. So I’m kind of proud to associate with people like that.
MT: So you didn’t get burnt out or tired of the season?
Myers: I’m not tired of the guys. I do get tired of, sometimes — I’m not sure what I get tired of. There’s a fatigue to it. It’s a long train ride and you don’t really get to get off and look. You don’t stop. It keeps moving. I guess you get tired of the constant pace of it. You know, we started in China. People forget. We started in China in September. That was a long time ago. It feels like a long time ago. I guess you get fatigued with the length of it.
MT: You guys won 58 games in what has been regarded as an underwhelming, disappointing season.
Myers: The times that I’ve been frustrated are the times that our players and coaches have been frustrated. Sometimes you dig into your own resolve and it's not there. You have to kind of remember. These are human beings. They are people. And I fault not having a meaningful game for I don’t know how many games.
When we became the (No.) 2 seed, I don’t know when that moment occurred, but we probably had two weeks of games left that probably didn’t affect where we were going to be seeded or however you want to call it. So living in that space and trying to find meaning was hard for our group. It’s not to demean an NBA game. They all matter and you want to get better and you want to be in the playoffs. But tell that to guys who have won a couple championships and have set this record for regular-season wins, tell them to find meaning.
And if it were you or I playing, who’s to say we wouldn’t be in the locker room saying, “I don’t know if I can get up for this one.” Give me the speech as to why. For my own pride? Which is there, but sometimes you need meaning beyond my own professionalism. Not to say that’s not important, but sometimes it has to be more.
MT: Evaluating your moves at this point, what’s your grade for the season?
Myers: Uhhhh, incomplete! (Laughs)
I don’t know. I’m always hesitant to grade things preseason because you don’t know. No GM knows, or coach. The things you did, the player you drafted, the trade you made, the player you signed — I don’t know if it’s going to work or not. You’d like to think it will. But then if you grade yourself in the middle of the season and it's like the year is not over. So to say, “Great signing. Great draft pick.” What was an A could become a D by the time the playoffs come around. What was a D could become an A.
Quinn’s been good. We’ve had some things we thought we did well, some things we didn’t do well. I think the key for myself and our front office and coaching staff is what can we learn from. What has the league shown us? Where is the league moving and how did we respond to that? Did we respond correctly? Some things you try to do in the offseason, via draft or trade, you look back and go, “Even though we didn’t accomplish that goal, we would’ve been wrong.” So you have to be honest about that. Or we were right, we went after this guy and didn’t get him and he’s good. But what you can’t ignore is the things you wanted to do and couldn’t. That’s part of what we have to do, too.
JaVale is starting in the playoffs, right? If you would’ve asked me three months ago if he was a huge part when he’s getting DNPs, I’d say, “Well maybe not.” Now? Absolutely. He’s playing great. If we’re able to advance and keep playing, the picture becomes clearer as to how to answer that question. In the Finals, you go we just missed out on that position or we never had it. And then injuries factor in.
MT: So what have you learned about how the league is adjusting to you?
Myers: Draymond used to be going against a 7-foot, less-mobile player. That’s not happening anymore. Everybody has found a small lineup. Whether that’s their best lineup or not is unclear. No team comes into a game with an inability to go small or play small. They even do that consistently or they can go to that lineup — whereas before you would be able to catch teams off guard.
And I’m not saying small is good. Small may even be the wrong word. Versatile may be the right word. A versatile lineup — meaning a player that can switch pick-and-rolls, a player that can defend multiple positions. You’ve got a player that can shoot the 3. Rarely do you see a lineup without at least three, if not four guys, that can shoot the three to space you out.
The league will always catch up, but I think it's moving more towards that being the predominant way of playing. And where you used to see, Memphis is an example, more teams playing a certain style, the pervasive style has become this spacing, stretching style. Has it won (a championship)? Is that who we are? Some would say that’s who we are. But I don’t think we’re wholly that. I don’t know that we’re entirely that. Cleveland, are they that? I don’t know. It’s hard to say. But it seems to be moving that way.
MT: When you made the choice to not pick up Looney’s option, how likely did you think it was that he would play the way he has been?
Myers: We didn’t know. We had to go on the information we had, which is not the information we have now. Maybe in that circumstance, the cap factored in as far as having to be very conscious of every dollar and saying “Can we replace this player? Can we afford to pay him at this number?” When we make any decision, we’re projecting. Sometimes we project correctly. Sometimes we project incorrectly.
MT: Were you stressing over the decision because you knew this was possible?
Myers: We thought about it. We thought about it. You always do that, right? That’s the discussion you have. It’s the debate you have. Some would say we needed to pick it up. Some would say not. You debate it, which I think everybody gets a say in that. Then we decided what we decided. It’s all imperfect.
That’s an example of what we talked about — what did you learn from? What did you get right? What did you get wrong? What should you have done differently? And being honest about that. And understanding that’s OK. A lot of people in our society aren’t admitting fault or mistakes. We’re happy to admit errors. I’m happy to say, “Yeah. You know what. Maybe that one goes differently.” Or even luck. “Yeah. We got kinda lucky on that one.” Did I think Quinn Cook would be giving us meaningful minutes? Nope. Sorry. I can lie and say, “Yeah, we had that all figured out.” No. Sorry. We didn’t.
MT: Will that impact the decision on Damian Jones?
Myers: You mean next year?
MT: Yes.
Myers: Now you’re asking me to guess six months in advance. Although, the way Damian plays fits the modern NBA — a mobile five that’s athletic. Damian just needs a chance to play in the NBA. And where we are at in our window, and where we are at in our position in the NBA, hasn’t allowed us a ton of time to develop young players. I mean, McCaw, you see some ups and downs. He hasn’t had the ability to constantly develop for us, which you’d like to see in young players.
MT: With all the rumors and talks about which star will stick around and which star will be traded, have you had to reassure your stars or manage those relationships?
Myers: For me, the way I do it, and clearly everybody’s got their own way, I try to talk to players all the time. Whether it’s about their family, about the NBA, about our team, about other teams. I hope that we’ve created an environment where if something’s on their mind, they’re free to ask.
The uncomfortable conversations are when you haven’t talked to a guy for two months and then he’s in your office. That’s never comfortable. But if you’re in a constant dialogue, I feel like you can discuss anything with your players. I think that’s the healthiest way to do it. Doesn’t mean you get everything perfect. But I think our team right now, our team has shown great focus in the midst of everything that’s being said.
Maybe you get accustomed to it because so much has been written about our team the last three or four years. Things might have resonated in the past but because there is so much information, you move through it in a quicker way. Things are written and said and then you’re onto the next story and the next story. It’s harder to find things that I think last in the mind of even your readers or fans. Because it’s just “What’s next? What’s next?” So I haven’t had the need to do that. But who knows? In 30 minutes, I might.
MT: Does this feel like déjà vu with Steph?
Myers: Yeah. It’s crazy. We were just talking about it. It kind of does. But that was with no Durant.
MT: So you’re much less stressed out this time?
Myers: Yes! Imagine that. Kevin Durant lessens the stress of general managers. For all the GMs reading this, he is a guy that makes you feel better about your chances. Right? Kevin obviously gives you that confidence.
MT: Are you going to be the one that says, “Have a seat, sir.”
Myers: We’ve had that conversation 15 times. Like I said, we talked about having conversations. We’ve done that this year already. With his ankle, we’ve had that dialogue. The good thing about him now is you don’t have to have it as much. He knows his body and the consequences of rushing back as much as anybody. You were here when he was a young guy coming back on that ankle and trying to get back. It’s an admirable trait to want to play, but at some point it's reckless. So I think he’s learned from everything he’s been through to try to trust the trainers, the doctors, whoever, to say, “You know what? There’s no point in coming back too soon.”
MT: Draymond has looked incredible. As the GM, are you watching this like, “This is the Draymond I knew was coming” or are you like “Dude …”
Myers: Where was this?! Can’t you say that about Andre?
MT: Yes. Andre, too.
Myers: They’re human beings. Someone would read this and say “I give 100 percent every day of my life.” I’m not sure that’s true.
MT: I know I don’t.
Myers: Well, we know you don’t. I’m not by any means suggesting you do. (Laughs)
But my point is, the challenge of all of that is how do you create habits. And I think those two guys, or any guy, would say, “I know what I need to do and why are you doubting my success and my career? Like, who are you?”
Now, they’re right. How they’re playing now would say, “Get off my back. I told you.” The people who questioned them should be saying, “I shouldn't have questioned them maybe.” So for me, all I asked them was, “Are you going to be ready to go?” And the answer emphatically was, “Yes. Yes.”
MT: How often did you ask them that?
Myers: All the time over the last month! (Laughs)
But again, it comes back to character. In a sense, you’re questioning someone’s character. And they’re like, “Don’t you know who I am?” That’s the pushback from a player. “Have you not been here?” Because they know you have, and they say, “You don’t know me?” And that’s kind of the thing. Then you go, “You’re right. Fair point.”
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Didn't get to watch the game today, but heard that this happened.
Watch: David West picks up technical foul from stationary bike
Watch: David West picks up technical foul from stationary bike