100 meter dash: 1924 vs 2024.

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Pretty sure back in 1924 those were hand times which are not even reliable. Nowadays if your race is hand timed, a college team would automatically add .24 on to that time.
 

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Only so much the human body can do honestly. I personally don't think we're going to be running at 35-40 mph.

I don't care what tech we have, physics is still a thing and human bodies are built the way they are. We'll never be a cheetah.

That said, the difference of .8 is enormous.

Last place ran 10.0, Bolt ran 9.69 so imagine this being 2.x as much between 2024 and 1924's Gold medalists:


A little dishonest of the person to say Lyles wouldn't have been a lopsided win back then.
 
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I wonder how low we can theoretically get the 100m record? Outside of a huge outlier in Bolt, the winning time for the 100m in the Olympics has consistently been around 9.8ish for 30+ years

Shoes and track, remember in swimming when they had those suits everyone was setting crazy ass times. Bouncy tracks and shoe technology will shave it in my opinion
 

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I wonder how low we can theoretically get the 100m record? Outside of a huge outlier in Bolt, the winning time for the 100m in the Olympics has consistently been around 9.8ish for 30+ years

9.5 is probably the limit. Its a shame Bolt never ran thru the line in 2008 what could he of done is one of the great what ifs.

But to beat Bolts record/sub 9.5 youll need the right track plus a tailwind of +1.8 1.9 for starters. And then someone who can do the 100 in 41 (Bolt) or less steps the elite level sprinters do it in about 45 steps.

Youll need 6'3/6'4 Bolt/Powell hybrid of natural speed/talent and technique to even think about coming close.
 

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9.5 is probably the limit. Its a shame Bolt never ran thru the line in 2008 what could he of done is one of the great what ifs.

But to beat Bolts record/sub 9.5 youll need the right track plus a tailwind of +1.8 1.9 for starters. And then someone who can do the 100 in 41 (Bolt) or less steps the elite level sprinters do it in about 45 steps.

Youll need 6'3/6'4 Bolt/Powell hybrid of natural speed/talent and technique to even think about coming close.
That's what I'm thinking.

Only Bolt has run sub 9.6
I think only like Bolt, Gay, Blake have run sub 9.7
Maybe like 12-15 people have run sub 9.8

9.5ish might be the limit
 
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9.5 is probably the limit. Its a shame Bolt never ran thru the line in 2008 what could he of done is one of the great what ifs.

But to beat Bolts record/sub 9.5 youll need the right track plus a tailwind of +1.8 1.9 for starters. And then someone who can do the 100 in 41 (Bolt) or less steps the elite level sprinters do it in about 45 steps.

Youll need 6'3/6'4 Bolt/Powell hybrid of natural speed/talent and technique to even think about coming close.


You left something off
 

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In terms of incremental adjustments:

Olympics can probably be sneaky and tilt the track so that gravity is aiding as well (downhill).

It'd actually be interesting if these countries who build new stadiums for the Olympics did that so maybe some already have.
 
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when people say today’s athletes would kill the athletes back then, they always project todays athletes as they currently are, take away all the advantages of todays athletes and then have that convo or give the athletes of back them the innovation of today

I watched a video about athletes and Human Limits . The 2 examples were Track and Basketball. The guy in the video said that researchers mapped out that 2009 Jesse Owens due to his biomechanics would most likely be a stride behind 2009 Bolt WR.

The talent pool gets bigger every generation. So while the Elite athletes of yesterday's era vs todays era is a closer match up. Its the match ups between 20th ranked of back then vs 20th ranked now is where you notice the larger difference.
 
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I watched a video about athletes and Human Limits . The 2 examples where Track and Basketball. The guy in the video said that researchers mapped out that 2009 Jesse Owens due to his biomechanics would most likely be a stride behind 2009 Bolt WR.

The talent pool gets bigger every generation. So while the Elite athletes of yesterday's era vs todays era is a closer match up. Its the match ups between 20th ranked of back then vs 20th ranked now is where you notice the larger difference.
In other words, the floor is much higher now.
The ceiling is marginally higher.
 

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I watched a video about athletes and Human Limits . The 2 examples where Track and Basketball. The guy in the video said that researchers mapped out that 2009 Jesse Owens due to his biomechanics would most likely be a stride behind 2009 Bolt WR.

The talent pool gets bigger every generation. So while the Elite athletes of yesterday's era vs todays era is a closer match up. Its the match ups between 20th ranked of back then vs 20th ranked now is where you notice the larger difference.
I need to watch that video do you have a link?
 

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We also have every technical advantage . Imagine 30 years ago a guy in timbuktu would have to prob videotape the olympics to see world class sprinting techniques etc.

Now you can just hop on YouTube
 
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